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I'm getting desperate, tell me the real cost of ESO.

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Yeah, frankly theres only crap out there.

    Thats why nowadays I rather do other things than playing games.

    I still would play Vanguard: Saga of Heroes if it was still up and running.

    I spent 2 days with my group going through steam, epic, xbox gamepass, and our own PC disc drives... we couldn't find anything to play.  Loaded up Black Desert and deleted it faster than it took to load....

    Might actually go back to ESO again... for the 3rd or 4th time.

    But yeah,  I'd dive into a Vanguard/Pantheon game in a heartbeat.

    I have been going through all the games on Steam and not finding anything either.....I've tried ESO twice....Im not going back a third time, especially with a 100+ gig download...It isnt that good of a game and im not taking up over 10% of my hard drive for it.
    AlBQuirky
  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Sovrath said:
    So far I only reached level 9, playing extremely casual with work around the house. Finding it very boring because of the EXTREAMILY EASY COMBAT. 

    It's like this, I was in an area with many nagging wolfs constantly relentless. I decided to simply let them beat on me while I decide my next move. I let five minuets go by and still took no damage....... Is everything is like this !!!

    How can anyone enjoy this ?


    Anyway, only level 9 so I'll give it some time......Also will soon start searching for events to take part in and dungeons. 


    Any recommendations for future content other than open world content ? 

    If you want harder combat then try harder content. Do some of the multiplayer stuff, not sure what they call them now but essentially the "dungeons." Not the open delves, they're' called something else.

    I walked into one solo and had my ass handed to me.
    Agreed.
    There is plenty of challenging content in the game but ESO does a good job of creating for many kinds of people.
    Some people just want to go easy and enjoy the ride.
    Some want to be pushed.
    Some people want to be punished. 
    ESO provides all those things for all those people.
    I was doing a quest last night in High Isle and was completely hammered by a group on the beach. 
    I had to call on the guild and we still had two people drop before completion.
    Great fun!
     
    I've been told that, so that's what I'm counting on.

    At what level can I start searching for this content ?

    Dolmens, or the giant anchors that fall from the sky, spawn waves of mobs to fight. They're in the open world, so many of them are crowded with players. The more players there are, the higher level the mobs are. But you can find some that are empty, and try to solo those. It will be hard.

    Next, try an open dungeon or delve. These are open to the world, and some may have other people in them. Again, if you find one empty, you can try to solo those. Some will be pretty hard.

    Then you could try some of the private dungeons. There is usually a level 1 and level 2 version. Try to solo one of the level 1 dungeons, you probably cannot do it.

    You can do any of these at any level. At level 9, you probably won't have much chance at soloing any of them.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Just open your map, look for the Skull heads, go there when they spawn and you'll find some challenge depending how many other players show up.

    You probably don't have access to the DLC regions, some of those bosses can really be a challenge unless extremely proficient / geared players are also present.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Looking at my pre-made characters... I hate rejoining a game and having no clue how to play.  I have 5-6 level 50s but I guess I will start a new one.

    Found a One Bar Magika Sorcerer build... sounds like my kind of build :)

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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 5,851
    Still looking...

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Looking at my pre-made characters... I hate rejoining a game and having no clue how to play.  I have 5-6 level 50s but I guess I will start a new one.

    Found a One Bar Magika Sorcerer build... sounds like my kind of build :)

    We actually have a late addition to the mix...  RIFT has been tossed into the arena.  been a long time since I played and it checks all the boxes.   
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited June 2022
    I went back and rolled a new character on Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh




    Post edited by Kyleran on
    AlBQuirky

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character of Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh




    Yeah we never really played Eve.  Dabbled a few times but it's... not much of a dabbling type game.

    Ive thought about it though
    AlBQuirky

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  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character of Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh




    Always EVE, Kyleran. Always EVE.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character of Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh




    Yeah we never really played Eve.  Dabbled a few times but it's... not much of a dabbling type game.

    Ive thought about it though
    Fallen Earth perhaps? It is still back right? Or is it gone again?

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    lahnmir said:
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character of Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh




    Yeah we never really played Eve.  Dabbled a few times but it's... not much of a dabbling type game.

    Ive thought about it though
    Fallen Earth perhaps? It is still back right? Or is it gone again?

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    You know, that wasn't a half bad game but when I played it years ago I leveled up to 35 or 40 and discovered all of the higher level players had quit for various "reasons."

    So I quit too....
    AlBQuirky

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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522
    edited June 2022
    So far I only reached level 9, playing extremely casual with work around the house. Finding it very boring because of the EXTREAMILY EASY COMBAT. 

    It's like this, I was in an area with many nagging wolfs constantly relentless. I decided to simply let them beat on me while I decide my next move. I let five minuets go by and still took no damage....... Is everything is like this !!!

    How can anyone enjoy this ?


    Anyway, only level 9 so I'll give it some time......Also will soon start searching for events to take part in and dungeons. 


    Any recommendations for future content other than open world content ? 

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.

    You can go wherever you want whenever you want regardless of level, so pick your poison from that below:

    Overland ~ Dolmens (or that areas version of), World Bosses, Craglorn (some areas, you will be notified when entering those intended for groups.)

    Other ~ Undaunted, Dungeons, Arenas, Trials.

    There are multiple levels of difficulty for some of the above.

    The easiest of all that is dolmens, being survivable at you level... likely. The rest will get you killed right quick if you are so foolhardy to attempt them at this time, especially at the higher difficulty levels.

    *Edit*

    My contention regarding your wolf encounter has been proven false, showing things have changed since I've been early level with no CP to spend. I apologize for clearly the one in error is myself.

    The content I mentioned is harder than the base line difficulty so you should still be able to find challenge there. Delves that I've seen others bring up are not much more difficult than the overland so likely won't challenge you too greatly.
    Post edited by KnightFalz on
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 5,851
    So far I only reached level 9, playing extremely casual with work around the house. Finding it very boring because of the EXTREAMILY EASY COMBAT. 

    It's like this, I was in an area with many nagging wolfs constantly relentless. I decided to simply let them beat on me while I decide my next move. I let five minuets go by and still took no damage....... Is everything is like this !!!

    How can anyone enjoy this ?


    Anyway, only level 9 so I'll give it some time......Also will soon start searching for events to take part in and dungeons. 


    Any recommendations for future content other than open world content ? 

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.

    You can go wherever you want whenever you want regardless of level, so pick your poison from that below:

    Overland ~ Dolmens (or that areas version of), World Bosses, Craglorn (some areas, you will be notified when entering those intended for groups.)

    Other ~ Undaunted, Dungeons, Arenas, Trials.

    There are multiple levels of difficulty for some of the above.

    The easiest of all that is dolmens, being survivable at you level... likely. The rest will get you killed right quick if you are so foolhardy to attempt them at this time, especially at the higher difficulty levels.
    What happens when you die in ESO, anyways? 
    AlBQuirky

    Once upon a time....

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    So far I only reached level 9, playing extremely casual with work around the house. Finding it very boring because of the EXTREAMILY EASY COMBAT. 

    It's like this, I was in an area with many nagging wolfs constantly relentless. I decided to simply let them beat on me while I decide my next move. I let five minuets go by and still took no damage....... Is everything is like this !!!

    How can anyone enjoy this ?


    Anyway, only level 9 so I'll give it some time......Also will soon start searching for events to take part in and dungeons. 


    Any recommendations for future content other than open world content ? 

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.

    You can go wherever you want whenever you want regardless of level, so pick your poison from that below:

    Overland ~ Dolmens (or that areas version of), World Bosses, Craglorn (some areas, you will be notified when entering those intended for groups.)

    Other ~ Undaunted, Dungeons, Arenas, Trials.

    There are multiple levels of difficulty for some of the above.

    The easiest of all that is dolmens, being survivable at you level... likely. The rest will get you killed right quick if you are so foolhardy to attempt them at this time, especially at the higher difficulty levels.
    What happens when you die in ESO, anyways? 
    You can self rez with an item except in dungeon boss fights where someone else has to do it. There's also some minor armor and weapon repair costs but not much more than what you get from just regular fighting without death.

    Basically almost no penalty.
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 5,851
    Iselin said:
    So far I only reached level 9, playing extremely casual with work around the house. Finding it very boring because of the EXTREAMILY EASY COMBAT. 

    It's like this, I was in an area with many nagging wolfs constantly relentless. I decided to simply let them beat on me while I decide my next move. I let five minuets go by and still took no damage....... Is everything is like this !!!

    How can anyone enjoy this ?


    Anyway, only level 9 so I'll give it some time......Also will soon start searching for events to take part in and dungeons. 


    Any recommendations for future content other than open world content ? 

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.

    You can go wherever you want whenever you want regardless of level, so pick your poison from that below:

    Overland ~ Dolmens (or that areas version of), World Bosses, Craglorn (some areas, you will be notified when entering those intended for groups.)

    Other ~ Undaunted, Dungeons, Arenas, Trials.

    There are multiple levels of difficulty for some of the above.

    The easiest of all that is dolmens, being survivable at you level... likely. The rest will get you killed right quick if you are so foolhardy to attempt them at this time, especially at the higher difficulty levels.
    What happens when you die in ESO, anyways? 
    You can self rez with an item except in dungeon boss fights where someone else has to do it. There's also some minor armor and weapon repair costs but not much more than what you get from just regular fighting without death.

    Basically almost no penalty.
    And boring. I remember in UO, and I'm sure EQ from what I've read, you had to make a corpse run and you might not find your corpse. 
    Another player helping you out anywhere along that line of play was greatly appreciated, and friendships and trust were built. That's a valuable commodity in MMORPGs. 
    Look at today's issues with players just going solo for the results of lacking that "commodity." 
    AlBQuirky

    Once upon a time....

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    edited June 2022

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.



    many wolves? Possibly not.

    But after I read the claim I went in game and used a level 11 and a level 5 on Bleakrock Isle. Found a polar bear and the bear couldn't kill me. Found a spider the same thing. Finally found a wolf and it barely damaged me. couldn't find a pack of wolves.

    Now my account has CP but I haven't assigned it to anything for either character so I assume they should be just like a level 11 and level 5.

    Still, mobs are not there to offer challenge, they never are. They are merely encounters that offer a step toward leveling up.

    At least in most modern games. In lineage 2 a mob "used to" be able to take you down at lower levels. I imagine the same could be said for Everquest and other more old school games.

    But as I've said before, I truly don't believe Delete would like old school games even though he insists that's what he wants.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Challenge is highly over rated.

    ;)
    AlBQuirky

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    All I know is I logged in one of my higher level characters in ESO this morning.. was pressing buttons to see what was what... ended up shooting lightening at someone (I assume and NPC).  Killed it... got a bounty on my head.. crawled into a corner and logged out.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    All I know is I logged in one of my higher level characters in ESO this morning.. was pressing buttons to see what was what... ended up shooting lightening at someone (I assume and NPC).  Killed it... got a bounty on my head.. crawled into a corner and logged out.


    Yeah, for some reason the safeties to prevent killing neutral npcs is set to off by default, probably the developers way of having some lulz at our expense.

    I let my new 8 yr old granddaughters play characters on ESO for the dress up factor as their parents don't want them exposed to "violent" video games.

    I kept them inside major cities thinking they couldn't get in trouble by to my surprise one of them accidentally attacked a guard and was killed....  :#

    They love rubbing it my face and now ask  to play violent video games whenever I'm watching them at the house.

    I do, but the safeties are firmly in place.  But you know, if I turn my back for 2 mins they "accidentally" find their way out of town and end up having to kill something.

    I'll probably catch hell one day when my daughter and her hubby find out, but as I tell the girls, they can call me the bad grandpa.

    They think I'm the coolest one for sure.

    ;)










    ScotSovrathAlBQuirky

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character on Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh





    Let us know how it goes!
    AlBQuirky
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Kyleran said:
    I went back and rolled a new character on Fallout 76.

    Thought it might be fun to revisit the stories and what not but so far, not really feeling it.

    Maybe EVE again?

    Sigh





    Let us know how it goes!
    One highly annoying thing was since they closed their own client and migrated everyone to Steam I could no longer run two game clients on one machine as Steam won't let you.

    Finally after several months some folks recently found an easy solution involving using sandboxie but not the free version, you have to buy at least the cheapest annual sub $19.35 after exchange from Euro and stupid VAT.

    With that comes a certificate you need to run in a particular mode which supports two Steam clients, otherwise it limits you to 5 minutes.  Definitely P2W for sure. :)

    Why two game clients? Makes it much easier to store extra gear and caps,as well as trade between alts.

    Used to also let me build and live in more than one camp at a time in the same instance but they've partially remedied that issue now giving everyone two camp slots and selling more in the Atom store if you desire, but you can't have them both up at same time where I can.

    I pay for the sub on only one account and let it do all of the crafting for all characters.



    TheocritusAlBQuirky

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    Looking at my pre-made characters... I hate rejoining a game and having no clue how to play.  I have 5-6 level 50s but I guess I will start a new one.

    Found a One Bar Magika Sorcerer build... sounds like my kind of build :)

    We actually have a late addition to the mix...  RIFT has been tossed into the arena.  been a long time since I played and it checks all the boxes.   
    Why don't you try Gloria Victus? 
    AlBQuirky
    ....
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522
    Sovrath said:

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.



    many wolves? Possibly not.

    But after I read the claim I went in game and used a level 11 and a level 5 on Bleakrock Isle. Found a polar bear and the bear couldn't kill me. Found a spider the same thing. Finally found a wolf and it barely damaged me. couldn't find a pack of wolves.

    Now my account has CP but I haven't assigned it to anything for either character so I assume they should be just like a level 11 and level 5.

    Still, mobs are not there to offer challenge, they never are. They are merely encounters that offer a step toward leveling up.

    At least in most modern games. In lineage 2 a mob "used to" be able to take you down at lower levels. I imagine the same could be said for Everquest and other more old school games.

    But as I've said before, I truly don't believe Delete would like old school games even though he insists that's what he wants.

    Things have changed then since I first started, making my claim the questionable one instead. Fair enough.
    SovrathAlBQuirky
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited June 2022
    Sovrath said:

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.



    many wolves? Possibly not.

    But after I read the claim I went in game and used a level 11 and a level 5 on Bleakrock Isle. Found a polar bear and the bear couldn't kill me. Found a spider the same thing. Finally found a wolf and it barely damaged me. couldn't find a pack of wolves.

    Now my account has CP but I haven't assigned it to anything for either character so I assume they should be just like a level 11 and level 5.

    Still, mobs are not there to offer challenge, they never are. They are merely encounters that offer a step toward leveling up.

    At least in most modern games. In lineage 2 a mob "used to" be able to take you down at lower levels. I imagine the same could be said for Everquest and other more old school games.

    But as I've said before, I truly don't believe Delete would like old school games even though he insists that's what he wants.

    Things have changed then since I first started, making my claim the questionable one instead. Fair enough.
    I never play beta's but I understand ESO was even harder then than it was at launch and I thought the difficulty was challenging then so about right. But MMOs always get ever easier in the long run. The death penalty is too easy but rather than corpse runs which I think we really need to leave to MMO history they could have a "social" penalty, have to spend some time in a Tavern, something like that. Bin the repair costs and even anti social soloers might like it. ;)
    AlBQuirky
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Scot said:
    Sovrath said:

    At level 9 with no CP you cannot be idle for five minutes when being attacked by numerous wolves and take no damage. You will die. Your claim is utter nonsense.



    many wolves? Possibly not.

    But after I read the claim I went in game and used a level 11 and a level 5 on Bleakrock Isle. Found a polar bear and the bear couldn't kill me. Found a spider the same thing. Finally found a wolf and it barely damaged me. couldn't find a pack of wolves.

    Now my account has CP but I haven't assigned it to anything for either character so I assume they should be just like a level 11 and level 5.

    Still, mobs are not there to offer challenge, they never are. They are merely encounters that offer a step toward leveling up.

    At least in most modern games. In lineage 2 a mob "used to" be able to take you down at lower levels. I imagine the same could be said for Everquest and other more old school games.

    But as I've said before, I truly don't believe Delete would like old school games even though he insists that's what he wants.

    Things have changed then since I first started, making my claim the questionable one instead. Fair enough.
    I never play beta's but I understand ESO was even harder then than it was at launch and I thought the difficulty was challenging then so about right. But MMOs always get ever easier in the long run. The death penalty is too easy but rather than corpse runs which I think we really need to leave to MMO history they could have a "social" penalty, have to spend some time in a Tavern, something like that. Bin the repair costs and even anti social soloers might like it. ;)
    You know what? Way back when I read a SWG review in Computer Gaming World and of the the biggest factors for me deciding not to play was their description of the "social" downtimes built into the launch.

    The Cantinas might have been bearable, but when they doubled down mentioning long lines of players waiting for a player "doctor" to heal their injuries and I wasn't having any of that.

    I think the social downtimes were toned way back later on but by then plenty of other issues had come to light which kept it off of my list, all for the better as it turns out.




    AlBQuirky

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