I just saw this, come on Ralphie if players put more time and effort in they need more rewards. I am sure some raid players feel special, feel they are better than solos; I am also sure some players who buy better gear feel special etc. Well so what, you always get some d***s in life? Most raiders are nothing like that.
Join a good guild, get some raiding under your belt, you will love it.
Ah the hilarious mentality of "They just havent experienced a good group otherwise they would love it"
You do get something, you get faster power progression compared to other forms of content, but of course that isnt enough since you cant feel special by reaching max gear first when you know everyone will eventually be equal.
You do believe most raiders are nice exactly because you think and are like them, Preach a known youtubig mythic tryhard thinks exactly the same way, he just cant comprehend why people dislike tryhard hard raiders, everyone was so friendly and nice, why people think we are the bad guyz
Might have something to do with the fact that by designing a game around raiding you screw all other forms of content both content and power reward wise.
Or the fact that "high end" raiders(NOT WORLD FIRST) are obsessive metaslaves who hate the game, hate their class, complain all the time and treat the game like work AND EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. So of course you will like each other if you think the same.
Go play a decent fun build in WoW for mythic raiding/high m+, even if at the end you perform better than most you still will have people moan that you dont play da meta, imagine if you didnt perform well, they would scream for daring not treating the game like work.
You see, you again assumed I have no idea about raiding or high end group content in general since like I explained in my previous post, you just cant imagine someone who does such content to be against the system that only benefits raiders.
But i do because I want a fair system where everyone can achieve max level
-not only because it provides real progression for all
-not only because when everyone has the same gear ability is the determining factor to performance
-but because the MMOrpg becomes more than a lobby game because when you gate rewards behind high end group content, the massive world is reduced to a waiting lobby game/raidlogging because nothing else offers better power rewards after the first few weeks.
So as you can see, there are many major arguments for a fair system, but of course the strongest one is one that treats everyone equally rather than treating raiders as speshiul since it is literally inexcusable to say "I should have better gear than everyone else reeee".
In your P2W fantasies I wonder how many p2w people would go rage at the forums when gear becomes more accessible like today's forums where when the devs give better rewards to casuals/soloers many raiders start screeching about it.
I would say it would be a lot less because the delusion of "I paid so I should have better gear than everyone else" is a lot harder to achieve than "I raid so I should have better gear than everyone else" and the evidence is all around us xd
I thought you might have raided, I was just not sure. You are one of those players I put in the "bad raiding experiences" category, we have seen a lot of them on here. All I can say is that I did refer to a "good guild". If you can find that these issues go away.
Don't go for an uber raiding guild, go for a mature guild (they may well mention that word) that raids. I don't even disagree with you about who would be relatively more pissed of: raiders or those who have bought gear finding it is now an easy grind? It would be the raiders, but that's because they put the time in, that has more of a personal impact that spending.
Also I do think there needs to be more to end game than raids and dailies for that matter. The more end game systems the better, the only thing you have to keep separate is the rewards. Raid gear should not be a daily reward and so on.
It makes the gear more accessible to those that lack the
ability to earn it through play but have the money to buy it.
This is exactly the kind of person who has attached their self worth to a video game, see bolded wording.
Of course, they dont see that for obvious reasons hence why my equality argument hurts them so much.
I'm the kind of person that prefers rewards be reserved for those that
merit them. Unequal challenges don't merit equal rewards for overcoming
them.
It's not kindergarten. We don't have to pretend everyone is equally able. Some players are better at the game than others. That such enables them to overcome more difficult content and receive the better rewards related does not mean the rest should be offered for sale a golden footstool so they can stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
It's not a matter of my attachment of self-worth to overcoming these challenges for I am not among those so able nor do I aspire to be.
You may as well stop making assumptions about me. You're not good at it.
I was stress testing Embers Adrift recently and a horrible reality came crashing down the next day. I cannot play games that use the mouse any more. I usually map all my keys to my 19 button mouse but my elbow was killing me the next day.
I have been playing games on steam that are turn based and using my Xbox 360 controller. When I play games that require action combat I use the mouse to fight but otherwise everything else I use the controller.
I was thinking about raiding and with this dual use of input and how well I can raid effectively. The answer is I cannot so unless I find a very nice guild my future mmorpg gaming will be severely restricted to soloing.
I don't however feel mmorpgs should be modified to allow even a person like me who loves grouping to handle the raid content solo nor do I merit the rewards since I can no longer perform adequately.
This mocking demeaning tone about people attaching their self worth to gaming is merely a transparent attempt to make people defensive about enjoying games and collecting loot and accolades. He does not really believe it, it is just a method to make the people that disagree with him ashamed of their fun.
He's just looking for people to be able to buy stuff they either can't earn through play or can't be bothered to.
Considering you still see gear as something to be "earned" aka something that gives you value it is no surprise you cannot see what I am saying.
If you show gear as what it is, a tool, you really wouldnt be so angry at the idea that the casual solo player could have max mythic.
But seeing that means you wouldnt be able to feel like you achieved something by ""earning"" gear others dont have and you cant have that I am sure xd
If gear gives you no value, why do you care so much about having it equitably distributed?
Based on your own posts, it's like demanding blank pieces of paper be distributed evenly among the population. It's pointless, and nobody would give a shit if they got their blank sheet or not, because it means nothing to them.
It took the players several MONTHS to figure it out totally.
Put that in a game today, without quest markers or anything other than text clues hidden in the world... and you'll have a riot in your player base. Man, I loved that quest, I made runs for newbies every week
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It took the players several MONTHS to figure it out totally.
Put that in a game today, without quest markers or anything other than text clues hidden in the world... and you'll have a riot in your player base. Man, I loved that quest, I made runs for newbies every week
I personally love stuff like that. Stuff you have to figure out that might not be very apparent.
I have stuff like that all over my skyrim mod. And, while I've had people reach out and express that it was "too much" I still have people finishing the mod and finding things that I never thought they would find.
One such person has written up a walkthrough and I noticed that he found a "part two" of sorts to a rather sad nursery story. The only way to really find it is to noticed that the lighting over some grave flowers are a bit brighter than other parts.
I think quests like this are absolutely "for" the people who can really appreciate them.
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I was stress testing Embers Adrift recently and a horrible reality came crashing down the next day. I cannot play games that use the mouse any more. I usually map all my keys to my 19 button mouse but my elbow was killing me the next day.
I have been playing games on steam that are turn based and using my Xbox 360 controller. When I play games that require action combat I use the mouse to fight but otherwise everything else I use the controller.
I was thinking about raiding and with this dual use of input and how well I can raid effectively. The answer is I cannot so unless I find a very nice guild my future mmorpg gaming will be severely restricted to soloing.
I don't however feel mmorpgs should be modified to allow even a person like me who loves grouping to handle the raid content solo nor do I merit the rewards since I can no longer perform adequately.
This mocking demeaning tone about people attaching their self worth to gaming is merely a transparent attempt to make people defensive about enjoying games and collecting loot and accolades. He does not really believe it, it is just a method to make the people that disagree with him ashamed of their fun.
Nice try buddy.
Sorry to hear about your elbow but it's good that you enjoy turned-based games and can hopefully fully enjoy them without suffering the next day.
You know, the bunch on the City of Heroes Homecoming server are generally an easy going. Maybe you could find a welcoming supergroup there you can do more difficult content with. It's tab-target rather than action based. You could probably find an archetype not too demanding on your elbow.
Another thing that might be worth a look is Guild Wars 2, as there are several people that post low intensity builds designed for people that have issues with controls, keeping the number and types of button presses down but still performing well due to the character build. Maybe something like that would be viable.
Some stuff that might help you out, anyway.
Good luck with finding something suitable if you give it a look.
Also I do think there needs to be more to end game than raids and dailies for that matter. The more end game systems the better, the only thing you have to keep separate is the rewards. Raid gear should not be a daily reward and so on.
So you just end up with countless worthless systems because the gear they reward is inferior and nobody really cares about inferior gear especially a few weeks after launch.
WoW is an excellent example of that, the gear systems outside of m+/mythic raid are worthless because they become obsolete literally the week after the raid opens, so all this effort was completely wasted and your game is now a lobby game because nothing in the world is rewarding.
You know what is even more hypocritical? The moment you put power in the world you have raidloggers crying about being forced to do casual content but they are absolutely fine with forcing everyone else to do their content because all the decent rewards are there.
Raid gear is not special, gear should simply be gear, a value, ilvl 100 gear should come from multiple sources with different levels of grinding. Trying to separate gear based on source just makes it terrible for anyone who might enjoy doing all forms of content cuz they now suddenly need to carry 4-5 sets cuz one set is useless on 2 activities due to this separation.
You should be raiding because you enjoy it, not because it makes you feel special cuz as you say "raid should have special gear" which screams "I am special by getting it"
Tell me, how many mythic, even casual mythic guilds have you seen in WoW that dont obsess over optimal comb and meta classes/builds? And can obviously clear more than just the first 3 bosses? (Considering most players are mythic geared after a month or two from m+ anyway so suboptimal classes mean nothing)
It is absolutely mathematically possible for such thing to exist, but it doesnt, it is like a unicorn guild because the vast vast vast majority of wow raiders are extreme metaslaving tryhards who arent that great at the game hence why they obsess over being optimal at world 12873891273th.
So no, such guilds dont exist or are so few good luck stumbling into them, as I explained before, when you share the same mentality as them by seeing the game as a job, of course you thing most mature guilds are cool.
And let's not forget that guilds will die from patch to patch so even if you find a semi decent one, you ll probably have to find another one in the future cuz it collapsed for many possible reasons some not even related to the game.
If gear gives you no value, why do you care so much about having it equitably distributed?
Based on your own posts, it's like demanding blank pieces of paper be distributed evenly among the population. It's pointless, and nobody would give a shit if they got their blank sheet or not, because it means nothing to them.
I like that you just pretend like the entire game doesnt exist and gear doesnt heavily affect numbers and values at all.
You know why it is actually great to be equitably distributed to all after a long grind expect the blatant fairness? Not only because everyone gets rewarded for their time and people get to enjoy progression(AKA NUMBERS GO UP), but it also means your performance solely depends on you, not your gear.
But I have seen how vehemently certain unhealthy people defend gear based pvp so I know quite well why they love to have superior gear so they can delude themselves that they are good by 2 shotting newbies
The people who defend such systems, are very far from mentally well otherwise they wouldnt be so vehemently against something so simple and fair.
While it evokes hyperbole, olympic achievements are no more mechanically valuable to the world than someone playing a video game. It's value only exists in the weight people put on the prowess the athletes put on display in their practiced sports, and the nationalism that is driven by it.
When a cameraman with a huge camera on his shoulder can not only keep up but stay ahead of your "best runners in the world" to film them for t.v. coverage, you're officially a meme. Luckily, hosting the Olympics in Qatar of all places is bringing enough disdain to hopefully hasten the organizations collapse.
Yes, the cameraman runs backwards with a huge camera on his shoulder while smoothly filming and still beats them all. Because they only have the one cameraman, for the whole race. That's how they do that, for sure.
The Olympics have been going on since the 1800s. The games being hosted in Qatar isn't going to hasten a collapse that won't be happening.
I was stress testing Embers Adrift recently and a horrible reality came crashing down the next day. I cannot play games that use the mouse any more. I usually map all my keys to my 19 button mouse but my elbow was killing me the next day.
I have been playing games on steam that are turn based and using my Xbox 360 controller. When I play games that require action combat I use the mouse to fight but otherwise everything else I use the controller.
I was thinking about raiding and with this dual use of input and how well I can raid effectively. The answer is I cannot so unless I find a very nice guild my future mmorpg gaming will be severely restricted to soloing.
I don't however feel mmorpgs should be modified to allow even a person like me who loves grouping to handle the raid content solo nor do I merit the rewards since I can no longer perform adequately.
This mocking demeaning tone about people attaching their self worth to gaming is merely a transparent attempt to make people defensive about enjoying games and collecting loot and accolades. He does not really believe it, it is just a method to make the people that disagree with him ashamed of their fun.
Nice try buddy.
Sorry to hear about your elbow but it's good that you enjoy turned-based games and can hopefully fully enjoy them without suffering the next day.
You know, the bunch on the City of Heroes Homecoming server are generally an easy going. Maybe you could find a welcoming supergroup there you can do more difficult content with. It's tab-target rather than action based. You could probably find an archetype not too demanding on your elbow.
Another thing that might be worth a look is Guild Wars 2, as there are several people that post low intensity builds designed for people that have issues with controls, keeping the number and types of button presses down but still performing well due to the character build. Maybe something like that would be viable.
Some stuff that might help you out, anyway.
Good luck with finding something suitable if you give it a look.
This ache is caused by my overuse of the mouse. My left arm is fine so this is caused by the way I had mapped all the skills and functions to the right hand holding the mouse. Plus having to use the right or left mouse button to attack just made it a whole lot worse.
Until recently I was actually playing City of Heroes on Homecoming.
I think I have to find a way to balance the use of buttons and spread it between my two hands to overcome this issue or find MMORPGs that enable controllers. Controllers are so much kinder to both your arms and hands. The long wire also allows you to sit in much more comfortable positions and this is overall a better input interface imo.
My only problem is that I am dreadful at manoeuvring the sticks so I cannot move around and fight using the controller so I use the mouse and WASD for that part. So I can manage dual input. It may be a tad clumsy but it works.
I don't know about you guys but I play games to be special. I want to be special and I adore being complemented on my healing skills and told how good a job I have done. I feel sorry for you if you do not take pride in what you do when you play. Must be a pretty hollow experience.
Seriously who doesn't glow a little when guilds want you on the raid because of your superior DPS capacity or magnificent healing skills (moi). I am never going to feel bad about being special.
Why are you so greedy and asking for raid gear when you're not raiding? Raids are rewards for people who raid. Typical attitude of people who want things given to them without actually completing the required raid WITH other people.
Why are developers making different content it is for different types of players. Don't be greedy and ask for things that are not created for solo players.
This entire raider vs casual argument is actually the product of the lame BoE/BoP no decay system.
Remove BoE/BoP, replace it with decay, and you can get raid gear without ever grouping a single time. All you have to do is grind the gold to buy it from the raider. It would also go a long ways towards revitalizing crafting in MMORPGs, if crafters were the only ones who could fully repair gear, thereby broadening the social aspect of the MMORPG beyond just grouping for content grinding.
But nobody wants to talk about that.
I think this is an awful idea. Already we have perverted players offering to run raids for money so that people pay to get the raid items. They have subverted the very design where guilds and players band together and do hard content to get get the rewards. If you're selling them we will have whole guilds that just spend time farming these to sell and basically destroy any crafted gear economy.
The whole idea behind this is very like how our first raids in the Plane of Fear or Hate went. When you saw a cleric in that purple plate you knew they were actually in Hate doing the raid and getting the armour as a result of participation.
Money is never the answer. You all complain about the terrible loot boxes and P2W rolling and odds and yet you're just advocating another type of loot gathering that involves paying to obtain the gear without actually doing the content.
Raid gear should be changed to raid materials. Then your supporting player crafting and player freedom at the same time.
Raid gear should be changed to raid materials. Then your supporting player crafting and player freedom at the same time.
Highly depends on how it is designed, if raid materials can be used to make gear you can be absolutely certain most of the people here will be very angry at the idea that non raiders can get raid gear by buying said materials, they dont give a damn about crafters.
Now if you lock raid materials to BoP you dont really achieve anything since it is just raid gear with extra steps similar to how WoW has done mythic crafting in the past, doesnt do anything for crafters.
Now a great token system would work like this, you get materials from content and you use them to craft gear or give them to others to make same gear with specific perks.
Something like per week.
High end raid - 10 tokens
Rated pvp - 10 tokens
High end dungeons - 10 tokens
Low end dungeons - 5 tokens
Unrated pvp - 5 tokens
Open world content - 5 tokens
But of course, many people here would be very unhappy raiding is no longer treated as "special"
When a cameraman with a huge camera on his shoulder can not only keep up but stay ahead of your "best runners in the world" to film them for t.v. coverage, you're officially a meme. Luckily, hosting the Olympics in Qatar of all places is bringing enough disdain to hopefully hasten the organizations collapse.
Yes, the cameraman runs backwards with a huge camera on his shoulder while smoothly filming and still beats them all. Because they only have the one cameraman, for the whole race. That's how they do that, for sure.
The Olympics have been going on since the 1800s. The games being hosted in Qatar isn't going to hasten a collapse that won't be happening.
There are plenty of people faster, stronger, smarter than anyone in the Olympics. Know why they aren't in the Olympics competing with the so-called "elite" athletes? Either their parents didn't have the money, weren't twisted enough to force their child to forsake all but the parents dream, or a combination of both.
What is the point though when they aren't participating? You don't see them and won't know about them.
I have watched the Olympics since I was a child. Always marvelled at it. I know now that you need all sorts of dedication, sacrifice, money and corruption but the pomp and races don't diminish in my eyes because of it. I think in spite of it all it is still a celebration I am glad to watch and will continue to watch.
There a lot of things in life where uncelebrated people are cheated and unrecognized but it does not mean the people who get accolades are not worthy of celebration for the sacrifices they've made. All the shit that goes down and there is still magic for me in the Olympics. I don't want to be so jaded that I don't acknowledge this human accomplishment. I think even in Greece where it all started there must have been corruption and influence and unfairness but we have come through all this time and there are still stories worth celebrating.
Plus I have wonderful memories of my mother who loved the Olympics so this is a special thing for me to watch and recall her fondly.
When a cameraman with a huge camera on his shoulder can not only keep up but stay ahead of your "best runners in the world" to film them for t.v. coverage, you're officially a meme. Luckily, hosting the Olympics in Qatar of all places is bringing enough disdain to hopefully hasten the organizations collapse.
Yes, the cameraman runs backwards with a huge camera on his shoulder while smoothly filming and still beats them all. Because they only have the one cameraman, for the whole race. That's how they do that, for sure.
The Olympics have been going on since the 1800s. The games being hosted in Qatar isn't going to hasten a collapse that won't be happening.
There are plenty of people faster, stronger, smarter than anyone in the Olympics. Know why they aren't in the Olympics competing with the so-called "elite" athletes? Either their parents didn't have the money, weren't twisted enough to force their child to forsake all but the parents dream, or a combination of both.
Ah yes, its the age old its not being good but taking part to get the best stuff debate. Personally, I dont raid or try to compete with the best and most dedicated players and yes I think they should have gear that I cant get just by logging in and faffing around. It expands the game and sometimes motivates me to get more focused on figuring out the more challenging content. Anybody saying anything else is just justifying their jelousy at not being able to achieve the same. Its pretty simple really. They usually play solo and complain alot.
But of course, many people here would be very unhappy raiding is no longer treated as "special"
I literally proposed a system like this and you lost your shit ranting about equality.
Then you should have read my post better or articulated yours better if that is genuinely what you said because I have no issues with giving rewards FASTER through high end content, the problem is when rewards come ONLY from high end content.
Though considering your previous post to be honest I dont think i ve bothered reading them fully after a point xd
You show me a group game where the content is VERY difficult for the players that participate. Then tell me they don't find a way to communicate. I am talking about games where players are constantly struggling yet they are not communicating either.
Challenge being removed from games is the sole reason people don't communicate. If people need to communicate they will communicate.
You assume that casual players will choose to communicate instead of quit.
You are FORCING them to communicate, that by definition proves people dont want to communicate naturally and you are trying to force artificial communication.
Secondly when I log in a new game, if the one of the first things to do is being forced to talk with others to do a quest, I am uninstalling along many other casuals who just want to login and have fun.
This idea that "people actually love what I like, the game just doesnt force it enough on them" is the exact mentality we see from hardcore mmo players which when the devs listen to, many people just outright leave or the game dies because they wanted to pander to the hardcore minorities.
There is nothing wrong admitting you like something niche, but trying to force it on everyone and saying it is actually popular if the game forces it is going places
This made me think of the festival of the Four Winds going on in GW2 right now.
They have this solo (Non-Instanced) fight that players can do, called the Queens Gauntlet.
We have to wait your turn, to fight the gladiators, and such, and most of it is quiet, but every so often we will wish each other good fortune, and congratulate each other on wins, and offer support for losses.
In my mind, this is really what MMO's could aspire to be, an organic means of interacting with the people around you. You talk to them, they talk to you, about the game, and for that moment, you enjoy that company of others.
Now, the flip side of that is content that requires you to hooking into discord and hearing the commander/raid leader yell commands, so that everyone knows what to do, when to do it, and we can all get this done, so we can go home with our loot.
Now, make no mistake, for complex events, like raids, that kind of system is in fact needed, but it's not communication, it's being given orders. I am not supposed to talk back, I am not building any kind of rapport with someone, I am supposed to listen and follow what they tell me to do. So, Lets not confuse that with "Communication"
In fact most the "Communication" that gamers receive, even among their guildmates is not during the hard events at all. Mostly, we are shooting the shit in discord while we are doing simple things like crafting and other easy bullshit, or during the time when we are getting ready for the hard content, but once it's go time, you STFU and do what you are told.
And that is just the way things work.
So hard content, does in fact lessen communication.
Easy content, augments it, because you can chat during easy stuff, you can't just chat during the hard shit.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
I do recall in FFXIV there was a method to upgrade your main weapon by taking on a zone event and killing the boss that spawns , doing book quests and some crafting and may be one raid for a resource which also drops solo in some other place but harder to get. The raid is a guaranteed drop.
Of course I both did a lot of dungeons daily and some of the easier raids. You need to know the fights in that game. Being a healer I would actually watch a lot videos before I dared to heal in a raid or hard dungeon. I absolutely hate failing my job when there is a whole group relying on my healing plus it was a point of pride for me to do well.
So in FFXIV I think there were other ways to upgrade your gear to a the point where you can take on the really hard dungeons and raids. I never did the extreme difficulty stuff it was way beyond my ability and my gear wasn't good enough had not enough MP and crit heals and other stats. I have seen my son raid the hard fights and he leads the raids. They are bloody hard.
Years ago when we were both together on the same server I healed a lot for his groups. I even got him to craft some items I needed.
Well... if you want a game where you aren't forced to raid to get the best gear, you may want to try New World... you can equip just fine by crafting too.
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It's weird seeing FFXIV being used as a framing device with the thread having "decline of social interaction" in it's title.
It's by far the chattiest mmorpg and has quite possibly the widest variety of social media presence in it's genre right now; while also having just.. so so many discord servers.
World of Warcraft is a decent example, and has a easier framing device of what happens when content gets way too streamlined; people just stop communicating- which was becoming noticeable even back in the early days of Wotlk in 2008.
BUT; there is even a far better example, and if people really want to talk about the decline in social interaction seriously, then mobile gaming has that covered.
While one would innocently assume mobile games would make it easier to keep in touch and have higher social interaction- it's had the exact opposite affect. Mobile gaming has helped close off and socially isolate people more then PC gaming every could.
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Don't go for an uber raiding guild, go for a mature guild (they may well mention that word) that raids. I don't even disagree with you about who would be relatively more pissed of: raiders or those who have bought gear finding it is now an easy grind? It would be the raiders, but that's because they put the time in, that has more of a personal impact that spending.
Also I do think there needs to be more to end game than raids and dailies for that matter. The more end game systems the better, the only thing you have to keep separate is the rewards. Raid gear should not be a daily reward and so on.
I'm the kind of person that prefers rewards be reserved for those that merit them. Unequal challenges don't merit equal rewards for overcoming them.
It's not kindergarten. We don't have to pretend everyone is equally able. Some players are better at the game than others. That such enables them to overcome more difficult content and receive the better rewards related does not mean the rest should be offered for sale a golden footstool so they can stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
It's not a matter of my attachment of self-worth to overcoming these challenges for I am not among those so able nor do I aspire to be.
You may as well stop making assumptions about me. You're not good at it.
Based on your own posts, it's like demanding blank pieces of paper be distributed evenly among the population. It's pointless, and nobody would give a shit if they got their blank sheet or not, because it means nothing to them.
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I have stuff like that all over my skyrim mod. And, while I've had people reach out and express that it was "too much" I still have people finishing the mod and finding things that I never thought they would find.
One such person has written up a walkthrough and I noticed that he found a "part two" of sorts to a rather sad nursery story. The only way to really find it is to noticed that the lighting over some grave flowers are a bit brighter than other parts.
I think quests like this are absolutely "for" the people who can really appreciate them.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
In fact, they probably should just offer to sell gold medals to any contestant that didn't win or want to do the content.
I mean c'mon, how much harder can the four man bobsled be vs the single sled?
No need to win the decathlon, just sell a gold to anyone who participates in any of the related events.
See, now doesn't that all sound silly? Same with the argument for raiding "equality."
Games can be and are played competitively and sometimes winners earn the right to strut their stuff.
I say this as a person who doesn't suffer from peni...err gear envy, I'm fine if others have more based on their additional efforts.
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Sorry to hear about your elbow but it's good that you enjoy turned-based games and can hopefully fully enjoy them without suffering the next day.
You know, the bunch on the City of Heroes Homecoming server are generally an easy going. Maybe you could find a welcoming supergroup there you can do more difficult content with. It's tab-target rather than action based. You could probably find an archetype not too demanding on your elbow.
Another thing that might be worth a look is Guild Wars 2, as there are several people that post low intensity builds designed for people that have issues with controls, keeping the number and types of button presses down but still performing well due to the character build. Maybe something like that would be viable.
Some stuff that might help you out, anyway.
Good luck with finding something suitable if you give it a look.
Ah love it when people prove my point by implying video games are some great olympic achievement xd
Yes, the cameraman runs backwards with a huge camera on his shoulder while smoothly filming and still beats them all. Because they only have the one cameraman, for the whole race. That's how they do that, for sure.
The Olympics have been going on since the 1800s. The games being hosted in Qatar isn't going to hasten a collapse that won't be happening.
Until recently I was actually playing City of Heroes on Homecoming.
I think I have to find a way to balance the use of buttons and spread it between my two hands to overcome this issue or find MMORPGs that enable controllers. Controllers are so much kinder to both your arms and hands. The long wire also allows you to sit in much more comfortable positions and this is overall a better input interface imo.
My only problem is that I am dreadful at manoeuvring the sticks so I cannot move around and fight using the controller so I use the mouse and WASD for that part. So I can manage dual input. It may be a tad clumsy but it works.
I don't know about you guys but I play games to be special. I want to be special and I adore being complemented on my healing skills and told how good a job I have done. I feel sorry for you if you do not take pride in what you do when you play. Must be a pretty hollow experience.
Seriously who doesn't glow a little when guilds want you on the raid because of your superior DPS capacity or magnificent healing skills (moi). I am never going to feel bad about being special.
Go peddle your falsehoods elsewhere.
I have watched the Olympics since I was a child. Always marvelled at it. I know now that you need all sorts of dedication, sacrifice, money and corruption but the pomp and races don't diminish in my eyes because of it. I think in spite of it all it is still a celebration I am glad to watch and will continue to watch.
There a lot of things in life where uncelebrated people are cheated and unrecognized but it does not mean the people who get accolades are not worthy of celebration for the sacrifices they've made. All the shit that goes down and there is still magic for me in the Olympics. I don't want to be so jaded that I don't acknowledge this human accomplishment. I think even in Greece where it all started there must have been corruption and influence and unfairness but we have come through all this time and there are still stories worth celebrating.
Plus I have wonderful memories of my mother who loved the Olympics so this is a special thing for me to watch and recall her fondly.
Prove it.
*edit - these players ruined mmos
They have this solo (Non-Instanced) fight that players can do, called the Queens Gauntlet.
We have to wait your turn, to fight the gladiators, and such, and most of it is quiet, but every so often we will wish each other good fortune, and congratulate each other on wins, and offer support for losses.
In my mind, this is really what MMO's could aspire to be, an organic means of interacting with the people around you. You talk to them, they talk to you, about the game, and for that moment, you enjoy that company of others.
Now, the flip side of that is content that requires you to hooking into discord and hearing the commander/raid leader yell commands, so that everyone knows what to do, when to do it, and we can all get this done, so we can go home with our loot.
Now, make no mistake, for complex events, like raids, that kind of system is in fact needed, but it's not communication, it's being given orders. I am not supposed to talk back, I am not building any kind of rapport with someone, I am supposed to listen and follow what they tell me to do. So, Lets not confuse that with "Communication"
In fact most the "Communication" that gamers receive, even among their guildmates is not during the hard events at all. Mostly, we are shooting the shit in discord while we are doing simple things like crafting and other easy bullshit, or during the time when we are getting ready for the hard content, but once it's go time, you STFU and do what you are told.
And that is just the way things work.
So hard content, does in fact lessen communication.
Easy content, augments it, because you can chat during easy stuff, you can't just chat during the hard shit.
Of course I both did a lot of dungeons daily and some of the easier raids. You need to know the fights in that game. Being a healer I would actually watch a lot videos before I dared to heal in a raid or hard dungeon. I absolutely hate failing my job when there is a whole group relying on my healing plus it was a point of pride for me to do well.
So in FFXIV I think there were other ways to upgrade your gear to a the point where you can take on the really hard dungeons and raids. I never did the extreme difficulty stuff it was way beyond my ability and my gear wasn't good enough had not enough MP and crit heals and other stats. I have seen my son raid the hard fights and he leads the raids. They are bloody hard.
Years ago when we were both together on the same server I healed a lot for his groups. I even got him to craft some items I needed.
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It's by far the chattiest mmorpg and has quite possibly the widest variety of social media presence in it's genre right now; while also having just.. so so many discord servers.
World of Warcraft is a decent example, and has a easier framing device of what happens when content gets way too streamlined; people just stop communicating- which was becoming noticeable even back in the early days of Wotlk in 2008.
BUT; there is even a far better example, and if people really want to talk about the decline in social interaction seriously, then mobile gaming has that covered.
While one would innocently assume mobile games would make it easier to keep in touch and have higher social interaction- it's had the exact opposite affect. Mobile gaming has helped close off and socially isolate people more then PC gaming every could.
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