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DreamWorld, The Controversial Kickstarter MMO, Is Launching Into Early Access September 12th | MMORP

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edited September 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageDreamWorld, The Controversial Kickstarter MMO, Is Launching Into Early Access September 12th | MMORPG.com

DreamWorld, the Kickstarted MMO that billed itself as the "last game you'll ever play," announced this morning that it is launching into Early Access on September 12th. The MMO is still mired in controversy a year after it was announced, as multiple questions still linger from its botched announcement in March 2021.

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    I'll wait my usual 6 months to a year after release, read the reviews, and then make a decision.

    If it lasts that long.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Obviously a dubious title, lets hope that its not the last MMO you ever play because you lose all hope that the genre can produce a good game!
    [Deleted User]Kyleran
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    "launching" to dodge lawsuits.  CHECK

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    buyer beware
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited September 2022
    Trivializing the meaning of "MMO" one step at the time.

    BTW, this was his previous project before he decided to make what is being called an MMO:



    No, I'm not kidding.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Iselin said:
    Trivializing the meaning of "MMO" one step at the time.

    BTW, this was his previous project before he decided to make what is being called an MMO:



    No, I'm not kidding.
    hmmm so it's a speaker that inflicts a person's music taste on everyone around them.

    I admire that he's a "go getter" in that so many people talk about doing things and at least he's doing them.

    I'm just not so sure that he's doing it well or at least doing it in a way that will see success.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Sovrath said:
    hmmm so it's a speaker that inflicts a person's music taste on everyone around them.

    I admire that he's a "go getter" in that so many people talk about doing things and at least he's doing them.

    I'm just not so sure that he's doing it well or at least doing it in a way that will see success.
    Well this guy is a "go getter" too... admire away :)




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  • Giga_bearGiga_bear Newbie CommonPosts: 3
    Backed this one in kickstarter, and have been following it very closely. While the early skepticism was warranted, the team has since demonstrated that this is very much a serious project.

    As to the unanswered questions, a big one was the use of marketplace assets. I can happily report that the teams does indeed have a professional 3D artist working diligently to craft original pieces to replace those, and has already created dozens of them. This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.

    Week after week the game is improved with our feedback taken into account and bugs being fixed. The community is super nice too.
    [Deleted User]dirtyside
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    Giga_bear said:
    Backed this one in kickstarter, and have been following it very closely. While the early skepticism was warranted, the team has since demonstrated that this is very much a serious project.

    As to the unanswered questions, a big one was the use of marketplace assets. I can happily report that the teams does indeed have a professional 3D artist working diligently to craft original pieces to replace those, and has already created dozens of them. This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.

    Week after week the game is improved with our feedback taken into account and bugs being fixed. The community is super nice too.
    Hello Mr. One Post yeah I believe everything you wrote.
    dirtysideScot

  • Giga_bearGiga_bear Newbie CommonPosts: 3

    kitarad said:


    Giga_bear said:

    Backed this one in kickstarter, and have been following it very closely. While the early skepticism was warranted, the team has since demonstrated that this is very much a serious project.



    As to the unanswered questions, a big one was the use of marketplace assets. I can happily report that the teams does indeed have a professional 3D artist working diligently to craft original pieces to replace those, and has already created dozens of them. This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.



    Week after week the game is improved with our feedback taken into account and bugs being fixed. The community is super nice too.



    Hello Mr. One Post yeah I believe everything you wrote.



    Well, that is fair, but I would also humbly suggest treating the youtubers who make a living criticizing devs with the same skepticism :)
  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,012
    Giga_bear said:
    This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.
    I mean, except for in just about every Kickstarter scam in recent memory. But yeah..Aside from that, you seldom get to see it as a consumer.....
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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    I'll keep an eye out and evaluate like I do all games.  I discount a lot of the 'doom' comments now at days.  These days, games are blasted on just a rumor that there is a game in development.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    edited September 2022
    So when they say this is "The Last game you will ever play" Is that like saying you will quite games all together out of frustration with their piece of shit? or is there built in subliminal messaging throughout the game to brainwash you into believing this is the last game you want to play? Or is this some type of threat I'm unaware of?

     btw that last video makes me not want to play it.
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,163
    Sad that companies like this can even get funded at all.  Where are the legit crowdfunding games my goodness.  Crowdfunding should have been a way for people with good ideas who are not rich already to fund their projects.  In reality most of these crowdfunded MMO's have turned into such a fiasco.  Culminating in this joke of a game.


    Mendel
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Traditional funding methods are the first check on a new project.  Crowdfunding, while it might have had different intentions for its use, is now a method for bypassing that first sanity check for any project (Is it a good idea?)  Instead, potential customers are being asked to fund someone else's dream, and too many people are finding out that another person's dream is rarely one they share.



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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Giga_bear said:

    kitarad said:


    Giga_bear said:

    Backed this one in kickstarter, and have been following it very closely. While the early skepticism was warranted, the team has since demonstrated that this is very much a serious project.



    As to the unanswered questions, a big one was the use of marketplace assets. I can happily report that the teams does indeed have a professional 3D artist working diligently to craft original pieces to replace those, and has already created dozens of them. This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.



    Week after week the game is improved with our feedback taken into account and bugs being fixed. The community is super nice too.



    Hello Mr. One Post yeah I believe everything you wrote.



    Well, that is fair, but I would also humbly suggest treating the youtubers who make a living criticizing devs with the same skepticism :)
    It's not just youtubers.  The forum regulars around here who have seen a lot of scams and think this one has more red flags than most scams aren't being paid for our opinions.

    Trying to make a very ambitious game with one artist doesn't sound likely to end well.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Qbertq said:
    I'll keep an eye out and evaluate like I do all games.  I discount a lot of the 'doom' comments now at days.  These days, games are blasted on just a rumor that there is a game in development.
    Dude, you got to pick your spots better for your "MMORPG forum posters are too doom and gloom!" schtick.

    There are some very good reasons why almost everyone who has looked at this game and it's so-called development team had concluded that it's a scam.

    Pick a real game if you want to give us shit.
    UwakionnaBrainyKidRiskChampie
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    edited September 2022
    There are some people out there that just love to back bad games. And too many people with more ambition than they have talent. 

    I looked into this one a few times over the past few months, even brought it up in conversation related to their 'consistent weekly updates'. But the facts are that there will never be a case where someone will voluntarily choose this over any random multiplayer survival game from a studio we've never heard of.  (because theres hundreds of those on steam and they are way better than this)

    I've seen the combat, and the gathering. It makes games like Ship of Heroes look like a AAA game. The biggest problem I have with this, is that they market it like people should expect the best, and the initial kickstarter video with the whole 'My life was a failure until I decided to make this game' felt like a desperate cry to make funding like they were going on shark tank or as a contestant on a gameshow. 

    There's just no integrity in the game. Call it a side project and ask for donations instead of trying to sell access and stop pretending it will ever be a real game. 
    Tiller



  • BrokenSilenceBrokenSilence Member UncommonPosts: 321

    Giga_bear said:

    Backed this one in kickstarter, and have been following it very closely. While the early skepticism was warranted, the team has since demonstrated that this is very much a serious project.



    As to the unanswered questions, a big one was the use of marketplace assets. I can happily report that the teams does indeed have a professional 3D artist working diligently to craft original pieces to replace those, and has already created dozens of them. This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.



    Week after week the game is improved with our feedback taken into account and bugs being fixed. The community is super nice too.




    Are you in any way part of/connected to the staff of Dreamworld Realities, mod/support team on any of the platforms like discord etc., or a dev working on the game?
    maskedweasel
  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Iselin said:
    Qbertq said:
    I'll keep an eye out and evaluate like I do all games.  I discount a lot of the 'doom' comments now at days.  These days, games are blasted on just a rumor that there is a game in development.
    Dude, you got to pick your spots better for your "MMORPG forum posters are too doom and gloom!" schtick.

    There are some very good reasons why almost everyone who has looked at this game and it's so-called development team had concluded that it's a scam.

    Pick a real game if you want to give us shit.
    I don't disagree.  All I contend is that there is so much negative hivemind mentality, that I can't rely on them like I used to.  I'm much more independent minded than I used to be.  However, I get your point about my schtick.  Good on your use of schtick.  Underutilized IMO.
    maskedweasel
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522

    mklinic said:


    Giga_bear said:

    This sort of prototyping is entirely normal in game development, you just seldom get to see it as a consumer.



    I mean, except for in just about every Kickstarter scam in recent memory. But yeah..Aside from that, you seldom get to see it as a consumer.....



    It is not scam related. Crowdfunded games tend to be seen at earlier states of development than those not regardless of whether they succeed or fail. One should always keep that in mind when seeing works in progress.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522

    Iselin said:


    Qbertq said:

    I'll keep an eye out and evaluate like I do all games.  I discount a lot of the 'doom' comments now at days.  These days, games are blasted on just a rumor that there is a game in development.


    Dude, you got to pick your spots better for your "MMORPG forum posters are too doom and gloom!" schtick.

    There are some very good reasons why almost everyone who has looked at this game and it's so-called development team had concluded that it's a scam.

    Pick a real game if you want to give us shit.



    I don't see why it matters much. The post is stated in very general terms and references an outlook frequently displayed widely on the forums on games less obviously questionable than this. It's an understandable and reasonable position to take.
    DigDuggy
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited September 2022

    Iselin said:


    Qbertq said:

    I'll keep an eye out and evaluate like I do all games.  I discount a lot of the 'doom' comments now at days.  These days, games are blasted on just a rumor that there is a game in development.


    Dude, you got to pick your spots better for your "MMORPG forum posters are too doom and gloom!" schtick.

    There are some very good reasons why almost everyone who has looked at this game and it's so-called development team had concluded that it's a scam.

    Pick a real game if you want to give us shit.



    I don't see why it matters much. The post is stated in very general terms and references an outlook frequently displayed widely on the forums on games less obviously questionable than this. It's an understandable and reasonable position to take.
    Because context matters.

    This scam is a perversion of gaming and that is not even debatable. It's a cheap huckster who will sell anything by any means that so happened to pick gaming and 650 or so rubes gave him money... maybe, because with scammers I always wonder how many pledgers are just their own fake accounts making sure that the KS funds and gains traction by doing so. It's a very cheap way to promote your scam with the 5-10% that KS keeps. 

    It's extremely tone deaf to come into this thread and bring up the subject of blasting games as if this piece of shit were worthy of any positive consideration.

    Understandable in the context that some gamers are incredibly gullible and willing participants in getting conned, yes. Reasonable? Only in the alternate universe where scams don't exist.

    Even calling this thing a game is an insult to gaming and calling these scammers developers is an insult to real honest devs.


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  • ElyElysiumElyElysium Newbie CommonPosts: 2
    This game may not be everyone's slice of cake but it sure as hell is mine. The founders and the rest of the Dreamworld team are very open to all critical feedback and continuing making improvements every week. Going back to the Pre-Alpha footage, it looks so incredible now!
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  • WBadgerWBadger Member RarePosts: 381
    edited September 2022
    This game may not be everyone's slice of cake but it sure as hell is mine. The founders and the rest of the Dreamworld team are very open to all critical feedback and continuing making improvements every week. Going back to the Pre-Alpha footage, it looks so incredible now!


       Commence the sock puppetry!
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