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What Makes You Decide To Give An MMO A Second Chance? | MMORPG.com

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edited November 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageWhat Makes You Decide To Give An MMO A Second Chance? | MMORPG.com

Around this time of year companies in the MMORPG world are typically holding welcome back weekends or free trials to entice new and old players alike into their game worlds during the holidays. But oftentimes when someone leaves an MMO, it's for a reason. So what makes you decide to come back to give one a second chance?

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  • NeblessNebless Member RarePosts: 1,871
    Depends on why I dropped it in the first place. On the whole in the past it was; If they required a sub and then went f2p later, I'd either come back (LotRO, AoC, STO, SWG, Vendetta Online) or finally give it a try (DDO, Neverwinter, SWTOR).

    For games that I dropped DROPPED, they had their chance.

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    I usually know within a few minutes if I really want to try a game, mostly from the look and feel of it. For example, FFXIV; I know it's a good game, but it doesn't appeal to me. Too "cute" for me.

    If I do play it, I usually let MMO's cook for another year or two after release. MMO's tend to change a lot over time, and the first experience is usually not the same as when you play it a few years later and the game is mature.

    For example, New World. I bought at release, played a little, and then stopped. I'm waiting for the right time to get back in.

    I don't usually go back just because they have a new class, or a new zone. If it's a game with a  world I like to be in, I'll go bck every now and then.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited November 2022
    I don't think "second chance" is the right term for me because that implies that it failed the first time,

    There are many MMOs that I've played once and would never go back to regardless of what they add or change because the game never clicked with me. I'd put Neverwinter, BDO, Archeage, and even FFXIV in that category. My experience was overall negative. 

    There are others that I have played extensively and generally liked where I may or may not go back to depending on what they're offering. WOW, LOTRO, GW2, and others fit that bill for me.

    New World was a special case for me because there are some things about it that I like a lot, some to the point that I think of them as the best ever in an MMO (world-building and soundscape) but it has other features that I find puzzling like their restrictive anti-alt policy, amateurishly mismanaged economy that heavily favors territory owners and crafters, quest and overland content that is good because it's harder than average but also bad because that gets tiresome having to focus and be at your very best too much to accomplish even trivial tasks at higher levels - especially after 60.

    There's enough to like there for me that I will keep checking it out periodically because there seems to be a lot of developmental trial and error going on and they seem to be heading in the right direction overall, but they have a ways to go.

    Currently, NW is like 2 different games in one. The 1-25 zones as well as the brand new zone, Brimstone Sands, are very well done with good quest loops, great storytelling, and QOL improvements for getting around the zones, but the other zones are exactly like they were a year ago with all of their faults and quirks. Once they revamp those middle zones to their new standards it will be an even better game still.

    So yeah, returning to things I generally like I will do often when significant new things happen but second chances for those I never liked much, to begin with, is not something I do.

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  • MachkeznhoMachkeznho Member UncommonPosts: 428
    boredom, lack of new quality mmorpgs worth a persons time.
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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member LegendaryPosts: 3,832
    Does playing on an emulator count as giving it a second chance? In which case, being able to play completely free and on a version I most enjoyed.


    Otherwise, pretty much nothing has ever gotten me to go back.


    Most MMOs I've quit because there was something fundamentally wrong with the game that is ruining my enjoyment. In theory, I'd go back if they fixed those things, but they never, ever fix those things. For example, I'd have gone back to SWTOR if they were able to add some depth to the combat mechanics.....but they didn't even see it as a problem, they were proud of how shallow the mechanics were!


    Some MMOs I have quit in order to go searching for greener pastures, or simply due to real life pressures. I have only ever once returned to an MMO I quit for these reasons (lotro), and it was because the greener pastures were not greener. However, other MMOs I quit ended up changing so much whilst I was away that I didn't want to return. E.g. I quit SWG when I went to uni, but by the time I was able to play it again the NGE had come along and ruined the game.
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  • user298user298 Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Nothing will make me give any current or past MMO a "second chance". When I leave the particular game - I leave it because I am completely dissatisfied with major aspects of its gameplay, and I don't know of any MMORPG game that has significantly changed its core gameplay throughout its lifespan. Every mind-numbingly boring "dungeon loot grind simulator" always stayed this way (WoW being the best example of it) with only minor insignificant changes, and even game like EVE Online is still about being a spaceship with no chance for you to ever step out of your ship and interact with other players using walking avatars (which is the main reason I stopped playing it years ago).
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    Sometimes I dislike a game initially but a a year later when I play it after some changes I enjoy it. So I always try out a game later on even those I disliked initially because sometimes the games changes in ways that make it enjoyable. Never know until you try it again.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    New features or significant changes to the original gameplay will lure me back. I'm very forgiving of developers who recognize their game was not in a good place and work hard to fix things like I've seen in New World. I'll always give that kind of effort a second chance.
    Brainy
  • jondifooljondifool Member UncommonPosts: 1,143
    Replayability is what makes me come back to a game. But what kind of Replayability?

    In games I am driven by figuring things out. Grinding the final stages of a game doesn't catch me, honing skills in pvp neither, achievements I shrug off as unnecessary. Daylies I dispise. I am much of an explorer with some dashes of being a Power game, and don't mind grinding as long as it unlocks new doors in a game, the final doors I usual leave closed.

    Being able to do a most of full game journey in new way can catch me. Playing alts to experience new skills and abilities can get me back. New ways to juggle economics can involve me. Path of Exile is the game I keep coming back to. Haven't found an mmo that could give me that.

    But New world I would have revisited this month if Alts was a thing there.



  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,163
    Games I hate, Nothing will get me back.

    Games I really like but burned through all the content, these games have a chance to get me back, with more content of course.  If some friends are jumping back in, I can be roped back in again also.  However after a few years, the MMO is usually on EZ mode and I get disinterested in that really fast.

    Games I thought were mediocre.  There is a slight chance I can give it 1 last look if they make signficant improvements.  Also friends can get me to try 1 more time.  If I am already considering possibly jumping in, a good deal could be enough to make it happen.  Especially when other friends are getting in because of the same reason.  Also a good deal makes it easier to sell an idea to other friends to jump in together.


  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522
    Change that is potentially for the better.
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  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 705
    Usually good old 'mmorpg-desperation'
    Tokken
  • GatsuZerkGatsuZerk Member UncommonPosts: 137
    What is the art in the image from? Is that ESO?
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    GatsuZerk said:
    What is the art in the image from? Is that ESO?
    A search of the image gave me Shadowlands World of Warcraft.

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  • ashiru_1978ashiru_1978 Member RarePosts: 818
    If the aspects of the game that made me not want to play it anymore are significantly revised and improved, it may prompt me to give it a second chance.

    Few examples:

    - ESO - if the combat is remade into more visceral and impacting, optional difficulty is added for the overworld, like Hardcore mode in Diablo 2, except you don't die permanently, you are just weaker, mobs are stronger and you get better loot and more XP

    - LOTRO - currently I'm level 128 on my first character, just 12 levels to go and I'm done, but I won't be starting a new character, instead I will be uninstalling LOTRO, unless they fix the lag, the game client performance and modernize the game by improving combat, making it less floaty, improving melee sounds and overall combat sounds, dropping outdated game systems and streamlining some of the leveling content, I would return, especially Rohan, Gondor, Mordor and Minas Morgul - those places need to be revamped completely, Rohan needs to have mounted combat removed, Mordor needs to be made brighter so I don't have to use external ways to boost my gamma just to be able to see sh*t

    - WoW - since I like Vanilla and Vanilla only, and there are private Vanilla servers of all flavors, I'm content

    - BDO - I haven't played the game for more than 1-2 hours, but what stopped me is that they made leveling really fast - I reached level 21 in like 30 minutes of playing, that, by my standards is worse than trash mobile MMOs

    I haven't played other MMOs as extensively as the first three, although I've tried more than 120 MMOs between 2007 and 2022.
    Brainy
  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,093
    That never happened, so I have no idea.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    When there are changes I agree with.
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    I drop games for good reasons, and i don't come back to them without better reasons.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    The only MMO I hated but gave a second shot to was Star Trek Online.  I had heard they improved ground combat and added a new starting area set during The Original series.  Anyway, while Iasted longer the second time, it still felt super clunky and dull after the starting area.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Datastar said:
    boredom, lack of new quality mmorpgs worth a persons time.

    I think that is it with almost every MMO I have played....At some point I get bored and quit...and then at some point I get bored and try it again.....Often though, the second time doesnt last very long.....Usually the reason I got bored with the game in the first place is why I leave the second time also.
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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,644
    edited December 2022
    No good games to play.... then boredom, then good old 'mmorpg-desperation'. Trying to find something / anything to play.

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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Usually I wait 6+ months to see if they are actively updating and fixing.  Also, I see what they are fixing and see if they're substantive or just window dressing.  It doesn't have to be everything that I think needs to be fixed and the way I think.  It just needs to show significant progress.
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    A major update that has a gameplay revamp.

    If ESO would have a combat revamp then I would give it a second chance. With no combat revamp I will never play ESO again because I would just end up leaving for the same reasons I already left the game for.
    Kyleran
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