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Throne and Liberty Will Be Published By Amazon Games In The West and Japan | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited February 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageThrone and Liberty Will Be Published By Amazon Games In The West and Japan | MMORPG.com

Amazon is publishing another MMORPG, this time NCSoft's upcoming next-gen MMO, Throne and Liberty.

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  • slowpokslowpok Member UncommonPosts: 19
    Amazon publishing game with Liberty in its name, the irony.
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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Lost Ark works fine, I don't see why it would be different for T&L.
    The only thing I'm surprised about is that T&L seems to be a direct concurrent to their own New World MMO.

    That's good news to me though. Looking forward to trying that game.
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  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    Lost Ark has been a major success from a publisher point of view. The issues encountered have been, at the root source, related to the developer, not the publisher. AGS has yet to have an outage like all the other western publishers did multiple times. They are quite likley the best publisher in the west at the present time.
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  • SaruomoSaruomo Member UncommonPosts: 140
    T&L won't be a direct competitor to New World given it is a tab target MMO with a completely different look and feel. Same with Blue Protocol and Lost Ark.
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  • WordsworthWordsworth Member UncommonPosts: 173
    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.
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  • ShutaraShutara Member UncommonPosts: 146

    Wordsworth said:

    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.



    Asian MMOs not getting published in the west - bad
    Eastern publishers publish Asian MMOs in the west - bad
    Western publishers decides to publish Asian mmo in the west - bad.

    Literally sometimes community not allowing to be satisfied is the only issue with this genre. ^^
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  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    edited February 2023

    The_Korrigan said:

    Lost Ark works fine, I don't see why it would be different for T&L.
    The only thing I'm surprised about is that T&L seems to be a direct concurrent to their own New World MMO.

    That's good news to me though. Looking forward to trying that game.



    They will make 3x on T&L - than what they did with NW, so why not? NW is in a failed state and can barely keep 20k konkurrent players.

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • WordsworthWordsworth Member UncommonPosts: 173
    Yowzers. Too much coffee this morning lil’ buddy? Cause I, like, didn’t say any of that
  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Mensur said:

    The_Korrigan said:

    Lost Ark works fine, I don't see why it would be different for T&L.
    The only thing I'm surprised about is that T&L seems to be a direct concurrent to their own New World MMO.

    That's good news to me though. Looking forward to trying that game.



    They will make 3x on T&L - than what they did with NW, so why not? NW is in a failed state and can barely keep 20k konkurrent players.

    No matter what you're thinking of the game, I don't think they've lost any cent on New World. They sold millions, AND they are tons of people running around with cash shop skins.
    Yeah, it's not a thundering success, and for good reasons, but it's not a failure either.
    (unless the continue with lame updates like the actual one).
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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    Tempering my expectations with this one. People were also hyped up for Lost Ark and that turned out to not be for everyone (putting it mildly).
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449

    Shutara said:



    Wordsworth said:


    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.






    Asian MMOs not getting published in the west - bad

    Eastern publishers publish Asian MMOs in the west - bad

    Western publishers decides to publish Asian mmo in the west - bad.



    Literally sometimes community not allowing to be satisfied is the only issue with this genre. ^^



    I think some people would be fine with Amazon, but they have had a poor track record with managing bots and exploits in their current games. It exists in lots of games, but some of the exploits I've seen in NW and the amount of bots in LA has been a major hindrance to people. Lets hope this game is managed better and it doesn't turn into a shit show.
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  • LamiaCritterLamiaCritter Member UncommonPosts: 94
    I saw the trailer of actual gameplay.
    Visually? Looks pretty good, imo.
    But what immediately lost my interest was the UI for the active skills.

    Only a measly 4 active skills to play with at a time? Nope. Fuck off with that repetitive bullshit.
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  • IudiciumIudicium Member UncommonPosts: 19
    edited February 2023

    Saruomo said:

    T&L won't be a direct competitor to New World given it is a tab target MMO with a completely different look and feel. Same with Blue Protocol and Lost Ark.



    well in this topic it says "An action combat MMORPG", but yeah with what they have shown i also think it is tab target
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    Saruomo said:
    T&L won't be a direct competitor to New World given it is a tab target MMO with a completely different look and feel. Same with Blue Protocol and Lost Ark.

    Seems similar enough to me.

    Weapon is your class, in combat weapon switching, limited action bars, focus on large scale PvP.

    The broad similarities will matter more than the narrow differences.

    It will likely come down to the PvP. If T&Ls large scale PvP works well then NW is a dead game. People that prefer action combat wont care about the tab target combat is everything else is so much better.
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Well guess I will wait to see how Amazon does this. Lost Ark and its monetization has been a mess. This game has just become a wait and see what happens before I give even one reed cent. 
  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Xiaoki said:
    Saruomo said:
    T&L won't be a direct competitor to New World given it is a tab target MMO with a completely different look and feel. Same with Blue Protocol and Lost Ark.

    Seems similar enough to me.

    Weapon is your class, in combat weapon switching, limited action bars, focus on large scale PvP.

    The broad similarities will matter more than the narrow differences.

    It will likely come down to the PvP. If T&Ls large scale PvP works well then NW is a dead game. People that prefer action combat wont care about the tab target combat is everything else is so much better.

    I don't agree it comes down to the PvP, at least not only.

    There has been no mention of gathering/crafting in T&L so far.
    Those elements in NW are just awesomely well done compared to many other games, there are few games with such immersive gathering for instance.

    We don't even know if there's any crafting in T&L... or if you have info I missed, you're welcome to share.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Tiller said:

    Shutara said:



    Wordsworth said:


    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.






    Asian MMOs not getting published in the west - bad

    Eastern publishers publish Asian MMOs in the west - bad

    Western publishers decides to publish Asian mmo in the west - bad.



    Literally sometimes community not allowing to be satisfied is the only issue with this genre. ^^



    I think some people would be fine with Amazon, but they have had a poor track record with managing bots and exploits in their current games. It exists in lots of games, but some of the exploits I've seen in NW and the amount of bots in LA has been a major hindrance to people. Lets hope this game is managed better and it doesn't turn into a shit show.
    Management of bots is more a responsibility of the developers rather than publishers as it all starts with the game design. 

    Lost Ark is a botters paradise based largely on certain design decisions, i.e. F2P, not really under AGS control.


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Shutara said:

    Wordsworth said:

    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.



    Asian MMOs not getting published in the west - bad
    Eastern publishers publish Asian MMOs in the west - bad
    Western publishers decides to publish Asian mmo in the west - bad.

    Literally sometimes community not allowing to be satisfied is the only issue with this genre. ^^
    Or it might be that different people like different things.  Some people would shorten your list to:

    Asian MMOs - bad

    Though to be clear, I'm not one of them.  I really liked Uncharted Waters Online.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099
    Looks to have promise to me, so many so quick to hate on things.
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  • WordsworthWordsworth Member UncommonPosts: 173
    Viper482 said:
    Looks to have promise to me, so many so quick to hate on things.
    I know and during a time when the genre has just been knocking it out of the park for ten years straight…
    Kyleran
  • XNL00XNL00 Newbie CommonPosts: 10

    slowpok said:

    Amazon publishing game with Liberty in its name, the irony.



    And the award for best comment goes to...
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Looking forward to my Prime Gaming freebies :)
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    edited February 2023
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:

    Shutara said:





    Ugh. I don’t like when western publishers put out eastern MMOs anymore. There’s always problems and you have to bring it back to the devs in Korea and the whole thing takes months to get the smallest issues fixed.






    Asian MMOs not getting published in the west - bad

    Eastern publishers publish Asian MMOs in the west - bad

    Western publishers decides to publish Asian mmo in the west - bad.



    Literally sometimes community not allowing to be satisfied is the only issue with this genre. ^^



    I think some people would be fine with Amazon, but they have had a poor track record with managing bots and exploits in their current games. It exists in lots of games, but some of the exploits I've seen in NW and the amount of bots in LA has been a major hindrance to people. Lets hope this game is managed better and it doesn't turn into a shit show.
    Management of bots is more a responsibility of the developers rather than publishers as it all starts with the game design. 

    Lost Ark is a botters paradise based largely on certain design decisions, i.e. F2P, not really under AGS control.



    As far as Lost Ark goes to an extent yeah, but Amazon as a publisher manages this product as live service. It's up to them to offer support and work closely with the developers and manage expectations better to get these types of issues ironed out. Regardless of who coded it, the buck stops at Amazon as publisher when it comes to Western support.
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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 825
    edited February 2023
    Never understood the shade people throw at the publisher. The creative direction of the game still falls with the developer.
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