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Blockchain MMORPG Life Beyond Opens a Persistent Social Space Called The Hub for Everyone | MMONFT |

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited April 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageBlockchain MMORPG Life Beyond Opens a Persistent Social Space Called The Hub for Everyone | MMONFT | MMORPG.com

Darewise Entertainment's Life Beyond, a Blockchain MMORPG, has opened The Hub to everyone, granting access to a persistent social area that's now available 24/7.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    Looks like Core and not all that interesting
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  • caalemcaalem Member UncommonPosts: 310
    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.
    KyleranPsistormAndemnonIselinmaskedweaselmetal0xMcSleaz
  • metal0xmetal0x Member UncommonPosts: 76

    caalem said:

    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.



    Pretty much nailed it.

    I have no interest in this game even if it didn't have NFT.
    AndemnonTruvidiennMcSleaz
  • PsistormPsistorm Member UncommonPosts: 46

    caalem said:

    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.



    Also previous technology was actually new - NFTs just.. are a hugely energy wasting (iirc) and roundabout method to do what counterstrike has been doing for what, a decade or more?
    There is NO point in pushing this tech, if you want items that can be only owned by one person, there's this thing called a database, basically.

    It's just this nebulous concept for something that already exists and will likely just be monetized to hell and back, in a shallow attempt to duplciate the idea of valuable counterstrike weapon skins etc.

    Same as "metaverse realestate" - Second Life has been doing that for amost 20 years, it's not new, and it's shocking how vague the new definition is. Nowhere does it say what you'd actually get, what you can do with it, what the /point/ of it is. SL at least you can do on your land whatever you want pretty much, build what you like, etc. It's all just stupid terms for stupid people, developed by cryptobros trying to scam people out of their money.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Blockchains have their uses, but at least in gaming it seems to be a solution in search of a problem.

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  • AndemnonAndemnon Member UncommonPosts: 179
    Web3, maybe one day there will be a use for it, but for now its like T's on a Bull, kind of pointless, a bit weird even, because if you wanted Milk, Cows already exist. :p
    McSleaz
  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    It would be interesting to see how much dev effort and resources went in to the NFT/blockchain part, and how much went into the actual game development.

    They have a hub now, and all you can do is dance and emote?
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    caalem said:
    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.
    Maybe not technology, but our lives are widely infected with fake "causes" to spend money.  We have holidays literally invented to convince us we need to spend money on something we never wanted.
    KyleranAndemnon
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    caalem said:
    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.
    That doesn't even make any sense.

    The people spending money on Blockchain games aren't the people making them. That would be unsustainable. 

    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 

    OldKingLogMcSleaz



  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292
    Kyleran said:
    Blockchains have their uses, but at least in gaming it seems to be a solution in search of a problem.

    The current trend by developers/publishers is to incorporate blockchain as a marketing tool. They are looking to avoid making any changes in how the games work, or how they do business, while trying to capture the 'hot' or 'new' aspect of blockchain games. Currently, this is all about using keywords and catch phrases to convince people that they are providing something that they are not.

    It is very reminiscent to the F2P explosion 25 years ago. In a few years it will end in the same way, with blockchain becoming a default feature of most new games, but with changes to developers/publishers to make actual use of the functions. I, personally, have advocated for ACCOUNT ownership tied to NFT's, as they can be used to authenticate an account safely, and can be easily shared across developers/publishers.
    MendelKyleran
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    maskedweasel said:
    caalem said:
    I find it so difficult to think of a previous time when a certain technology was pushed endlessly despite there not being any customer base for it. I may personally dislike lootboxes, but gacha games seem to be quite popular. Nobody likes NFT games besides the people making NFT games, and they like them because they see money.
    That doesn't even make any sense.

    The people spending money on Blockchain games aren't the people making them. That would be unsustainable. 

    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 


    I'm pretty sure the people making Blockchain games, especially those with a proprietary currency-based token, are already involved in the currency.  It would be easy to churn out a number of proprietary tokens and distribute them to developers (possibly in lieu of salary), then wait for other players/investors drive the prices up.



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  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    edited April 2023
    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 
    Those aren't mutually exclusive concepts. With titles like TRV using randomized stats and generation to make people hunt for the prefect draw, not much of a line being drawn there. NFT's are the delivery method for gacha there.

    The line that may be drawn, is that now the gacha has been coupled directly with RMT trade value thanks to NFTs.
    McSleaz
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    edited April 2023
    A lot of these games whales just come in early, get their free or cheap NFTs driving up prices for normal players, then mass dump assets and move on to the next leaving a void of worthless NFTs. aka pump and dump.
    MendelKyleranMcSleazAndemnon
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    So when does this site officially change its name from MMORPG.com to MMONFT.com? They seem to care alot more about this garbage than actual MMOs.
    MendelKyleranMcSleazAndemnonLeFantome
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Uwakionna said:
    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 
    Those aren't mutually exclusive concepts. With titles like TRV using randomized stats and generation to make people hunt for the prefect draw, not much of a line being drawn there. NFT's are the delivery method for gacha there.

    The line that may be drawn, is that now the gacha has been coupled directly with RMT trade value thanks to NFTs.
     That's actually true as some Blockchain games mint NFTs based on gacha rolls but in most cases the premise of an NFT is counterintuitive to gacha in that anyone can sell items they earn, which negates the necessity for gambling.

    It does unfortunately put the supply in short order of demand in most cases which means that the rarer items would potentially sell for more.

    So you're not wrong, but there's a little bit of a nuanced difference when your items can be sold.

    Not specifically relegated to Blockchain either but you don't see any gacha games apart from Blockchain doing it.
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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Theocritus said:
    So when does this site officially change its name from MMORPG.com to MMONFT.com? They seem to care alot more about this garbage than actual MMOs.

    They are covering the NFT craze. It's their job. Not their fault that MMO development reality sucks.
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  • PaullTPaullT Member UncommonPosts: 5
    edited April 2023
    I was watching a Callum Upton video where he talks about the difficulties he has finding investors for his game in the current environment. The first words out of every prospective investor's mouths are "so how can we incorporate the blockchain into this?"
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    I like to think of these MMONFT articles as being cautionary warnings for the unwary...you know like..  coffee may be hot, water might be wet, etc..

    Or as found on cigarettes for many years now, "May" be hazardous to one's health.

    ;)
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Blockchain...

    Gotta love it when the first word in a headline is enough to let me know the game is going to be absolute crap I will want to avoid.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    maskedweasel said:
    Uwakionna said:
    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 
    Those aren't mutually exclusive concepts. With titles like TRV using randomized stats and generation to make people hunt for the prefect draw, not much of a line being drawn there. NFT's are the delivery method for gacha there.

    The line that may be drawn, is that now the gacha has been coupled directly with RMT trade value thanks to NFTs.
     That's actually true as some Blockchain games mint NFTs based on gacha rolls but in most cases the premise of an NFT is counterintuitive to gacha in that anyone can sell items they earn, which negates the necessity for gambling.

    It does unfortunately put the supply in short order of demand in most cases which means that the rarer items would potentially sell for more.

    So you're not wrong, but there's a little bit of a nuanced difference when your items can be sold.

    Not specifically relegated to Blockchain either but you don't see any gacha games apart from Blockchain doing it.
    I disagree. Ability to sell NFTs gained through gacha means you can hope to win real money, as opposite to most games where no matter how good in-game stuff you win you can never get your money back.
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  • McSleazMcSleaz Member RarePosts: 280

    olepi said:


    Theocritus said:

    So when does this site officially change its name from MMORPG.com to MMONFT.com? They seem to care alot more about this garbage than actual MMOs.



    They are covering the NFT craze. It's their job. Not their fault that MMO development reality sucks.



    MassivelyOP Manages to put out good articles without covering these SCAMS. This site could do the same if it chose.
    IselinmaskedweaselAndemnonLeFantome
  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    edited April 2023
    Fact: Great game comes out that has NFTs at a reasonable fair price, people will play it, even you.
    Post edited by Nanfoodle on
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Superman0X said:
    Kyleran said:
    Blockchains have their uses, but at least in gaming it seems to be a solution in search of a problem.

    The current trend by developers/publishers is to incorporate blockchain as a marketing tool. They are looking to avoid making any changes in how the games work, or how they do business, while trying to capture the 'hot' or 'new' aspect of blockchain games. Currently, this is all about using keywords and catch phrases to convince people that they are providing something that they are not.

    It is very reminiscent to the F2P explosion 25 years ago. In a few years it will end in the same way, with blockchain becoming a default feature of most new games, but with changes to developers/publishers to make actual use of the functions. I, personally, have advocated for ACCOUNT ownership tied to NFT's, as they can be used to authenticate an account safely, and can be easily shared across developers/publishers.
    What happens if someone's account gets stolen?  One usual problem with NFTs is that if it gets stolen, it's gone and unrecoverable.
    Andemnon
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Vrika said:
    maskedweasel said:
    Uwakionna said:
    That's even before you get into that gacha is way worse than Blockchain and even NFTs. Gacha is 100% gambling, NFTs are supply and demand. 
    Those aren't mutually exclusive concepts. With titles like TRV using randomized stats and generation to make people hunt for the prefect draw, not much of a line being drawn there. NFT's are the delivery method for gacha there.

    The line that may be drawn, is that now the gacha has been coupled directly with RMT trade value thanks to NFTs.
     That's actually true as some Blockchain games mint NFTs based on gacha rolls but in most cases the premise of an NFT is counterintuitive to gacha in that anyone can sell items they earn, which negates the necessity for gambling.

    It does unfortunately put the supply in short order of demand in most cases which means that the rarer items would potentially sell for more.

    So you're not wrong, but there's a little bit of a nuanced difference when your items can be sold.

    Not specifically relegated to Blockchain either but you don't see any gacha games apart from Blockchain doing it.
    I disagree. Ability to sell NFTs gained through gacha means you can hope to win real money, as opposite to most games where no matter how good in-game stuff you win you can never get your money back.
    Yeah, I'm sure they'll tune the RNG so you can get rich. You might even have enough for a Happy Meal after a month or two if you're lucky.
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