Amazon has a lot more experience now, so hopefully this one sticks. I would love an MMO set in that setting. I desperately tried to get into LOTRO, but it just wouldn't take.
Welp I do hope the game will be good and better than NW when it comes to character customization...I want male and female body frames and animations with cloths that can fit on either.
None of this all characters are stocky farmer types we have in new world etc, and please for all that is holy better skins for armors etc etc.
I also hope they do better with the engine cause new world has problems when there too many people in one area and there too many effect going off due to those people using skills.
Hopefully they learned from some of the stupid mistakes they made with NW when it comes to dupes and exploits, like the windowed screen shaking thing, and to leave a on a positive note hopefully they make the world/land etc as good looking as it is in NW cause that one thing that actually did a good job on.
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Amazon may deliver LOTR mmo, I can be sure of that. They would be like - "do we need 5 trillion USD? No problem, we give 10 trillion USD!".
They can create superior avatars with really huge customization options. More clothing/armour than WoW and FF14 ever had. Really cool attacks that are spectacular. Amazon can hire all the best artists to make voiceovers and add hundreds of hours long cutscenes. It is all doable, requires money that they can throw.
I doubt they could re-create a warm, inviting atmosphere of LOTR. A peacefull Shire where simply Hobbits live their simple life. Kind of grumpy Dwarf lands where these sturdy folks mine and craft (if not drinking beer). Splendour of Elven world, that is touched by knowledge - Elves are to leave Middle Earth. An atmosphere that is warm, that invites you to stay.
Amazon probably can't create soul of a world. Rest would be nice nice that would have no spiritual ties to Lord of the Rings.
@Nildren You realize Galadriel is one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth
? or is you're ignorance actually that bountiful on Lotr Lore ?
So powerful she can face tank a volcano and so smart she jumped off a boat into the sundering sea. LOL Not to mention she was a commander who would have slain tons of orcs and her idiotic instructions were stab twist gut... like that's effective... or her move hanging off the horse... LOL
There were so many things wrong with how they portrayed Galadriel.
Rings of Power were just bad. Woke? Less important next to that staggering amount of bad quality. And they disrespected the source material too.
Those are FAR more important blunders than whether some fictional character is white or not.
I dunno some of it I wished I could have grown a third arm to do some triple face palms. Like swimming across the ocean, a single arrow bringing down a stone tower and face tanking a volcano just to name three things but you could make multiple hours long videos on how the Rangs of Powa was thrash.
The fight scenes...
There are many ways to kill an orc, here's one that's stupid, step, twist, gut! Might wound it but not kill it... idiotic. From a thousand year old commander who killed tons of them...
Not to mention the pyschopath not-hobbits who just left people behind to die. The horrible character developement. The stupid battles. The dialog.
How about those superfans? Oh they would rather watch House of the Dragon. LOL
Dont' ask questions just consume product then get excited for next product.
It was not great, not even close, but also not nearly as bad as the hit pieces make it seem. You can do a hit piece about anyone or anything and make anything look worse than it is.
The Shadiversity guy I linked is an expert in medieval stuff like castles and swords. You don't need a hit piece to make this look bad. You don't even need an autopsy or indepth deep dive into it. That does however point out more stuff that makes it look even worse.
It was really bad.
Amazon deleted reviews.
Once again 37% of people even bothered to finish watching it.
On top of that we have New World which has had some problems if I'm being nice.
I love Lord of the Rings. I enjoyed the current MMORPG for the most part. I want this to be good but let's not sugar coat this. This could be another New World with a 0.01 retention rate.
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Amazon......Hopefully not "adapted for modern audiences" else we'll see Sam's missus picking up Aragon's sword at level 1 and beating a reborn Morgoth with a couple of swipes.
It was not great, not even close, but also not nearly as bad as the hit pieces make it seem. You can do a hit piece about anyone or anything and make anything look worse than it is.
The Shadiversity guy I linked is an expert in medieval stuff like castles and swords. You don't need a hit piece to make this look bad. You don't even need an autopsy or indepth deep dive into it. That does however point out more stuff that makes it look even worse.
It was really bad.
Amazon deleted reviews.
Once again 37% of people even bothered to finish watching it.
On top of that we have New World which has had some problems if I'm being nice.
I love Lord of the Rings. I enjoyed the current MMORPG for the most part. I want this to be good but let's not sugar coat this. This could be another New World with a 0.01 retention rate.
Maybe the difference was that I didn't watch YT "reviews" or paid any attention to how many completed it. I just watched (yes all episodes) and enjoyed it enough to keep watching despite the occasional cheese.
As I said, not great, but enjoyable enough.
But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
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But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
Reviewers are not necessarilly all paid shills, but most do reflect a particular bias and leaning to a certain world viewpoint.
But I do have to say, in this instance the most important fact seems to be that nearly 2 out of 3 people who started watching the show did not make it to the end (if that stat is real. I have no idea where it's from). I mean, there would be people who actually had some kind of interest in the show and disliked it enough not to watch it to the end.
Now folks have a real wide range of likes and dislikes and we see it every day on these forums. One persons garbage is another person's treasure. But I thik it's pretty obvious that if you are a streaming service that paid ludicrous money (like ludicrous speed from spaceballs) you would probably want the majority of your customers to like it enough to bother watching it to the end. I do not think this is even open to debate.
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All I got from seeing posts and hearing from friends about Amazons Lotr series was "disappointment". It did not not matter how important the lore was, if they were lore buffs just add to that "anger".
My overall impression was it was not as bad as the naysayers were shouting, but that only goes so far, it was meant to be a huge ground breaking production which cost ~ £400 million. In those business terms it was a rather poor showing.
But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
Reviewers are not necessarilly all paid shills, but most do reflect a particular bias and leaning to a certain world viewpoint.
But I do have to say, in this instance the most important fact seems to be that nearly 2 out of 3 people who started watching the show did not make it to the end (if that stat is real. I have no idea where it's from). I mean, there would be people who actually had some kind of interest in the show and disliked it enough not to watch it to the end.
Now folks have a real wide range of likes and dislikes and we see it every day on these forums. One persons garbage is another person's treasure. But I thik it's pretty obvious that if you are a streaming service that paid ludicrous money (like ludicrous speed from spaceballs) you would probably want the majority of your customers to like it enough to bother watching it to the end. I do not think this is even open to debate.
Confirmation bias.
There are several shows on Netflix, Prims, and HBO Max that I like which I haven't finished. I might get around to them or not but that doesn't mean I don't think they're good or worth watching.
With shows I think are superb? Yeah, I consume those to the very end ASAP and sometimes go back and rewatch them. Rings of Power was not superb - 71% is about right IMO. The 2,9 from the mob isn't. That's just bombing for many reasons and it's a score that is full of shit.
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Rings of Power was really bad , not even being recognized for any awards compounded by only 37% viewers that watched the first episode , finished the series , interest in the show waned and dropped quickly.
@Nildren You realize Galadriel is one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth
? or is you're ignorance actually that bountiful on Lotr Lore ?
Galadriel was a criminal who was banished to Middle Earth and forbidden to return to Elvenhome. She was part of the elves that attacked and killed the sea-going elves, stole their boats, and then burned them once they reached Middle Earth.
She redeemed herself by refusing the One Ring, and was granted the ability to return to Elvenhome.
I don't think they even mentioned this in the Rings of Power movies, right?
A MMORPG in Middle Earth with graphics better than New World, the dynamic combat of NW and the open character development of NW ? Come on Jeff, take my credit card already !
And I personally can't wait for season 2 of Rings of Power.
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But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
Reviewers are not necessarilly all paid shills, but most do reflect a particular bias and leaning to a certain world viewpoint.
But I do have to say, in this instance the most important fact seems to be that nearly 2 out of 3 people who started watching the show did not make it to the end (if that stat is real. I have no idea where it's from). I mean, there would be people who actually had some kind of interest in the show and disliked it enough not to watch it to the end.
Now folks have a real wide range of likes and dislikes and we see it every day on these forums. One persons garbage is another person's treasure. But I thik it's pretty obvious that if you are a streaming service that paid ludicrous money (like ludicrous speed from spaceballs) you would probably want the majority of your customers to like it enough to bother watching it to the end. I do not think this is even open to debate.
Confirmation bias.
There are several shows on Netflix, Prims, and HBO Max that I like which I haven't finished. I might get around to them or not but that doesn't mean I don't think they're good or worth watching.
With shows I think are superb? Yeah, I consume those to the very end ASAP and sometimes go back and rewatch them. Rings of Power was not superb - 71% is about right IMO. The 2,9 from the mob isn't. That's just bombing for many reasons and it's a score that is full of shit.
I think you are an example of your own confirmation bias. ROP released over 8 months ago. I think its safe to say that most of thoise folks are unlikely to go back at this point, but sure there is the edge case. I mean... it's only 8 episodes.
And the 37% is actually pretty close to the 2.9 rating is it not? Its a lot closer to that score than the 71% that you "feel" is about right.
That doesn't invalidate your enjoyment of the show. At all. Just like some people love games on here that get scored low. Different strokes for different folks. Just be careful about constantly disregarding and degrading the opinions of OTHER folks.
But again, more importantly... if a company paid ludicrous money, and I hear the commitment is upwards of one billion dollars, to make a show... I think they want a lot more than 37% of the viewers to even make it to the end of the 8 episode season 1...
And maybe even more importantly to US... if Amazon was really happy with it's reception they probably would have wanted to tie in the game to it. And it's certainly possible they still will, but at this point it seems like they intend to go with the 3rd age. I guess we will see
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For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
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For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
A few squeaky objections 15 years ago is your example of LotRO also being objectively criticized? Please. Where are those posters now because none of the people in this thread ever make a peep at how LotRO continues to trample all over the lore to this day.
Runekeepers, by far, aren't even the worst or most recent offenders. So, that one little buzz event 15 years ago doesn't really count as people treating it the same. There is more outrage in this one thread than all the LotRO threads on this site combined over the years. So please, don't try and use "but but the Runekeepers" as the lone weak example of how posters on this site have objectively treated LotRO and continue to do so.
But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
Reviewers are not necessarilly all paid shills, but most do reflect a particular bias and leaning to a certain world viewpoint.
But I do have to say, in this instance the most important fact seems to be that nearly 2 out of 3 people who started watching the show did not make it to the end (if that stat is real. I have no idea where it's from). I mean, there would be people who actually had some kind of interest in the show and disliked it enough not to watch it to the end.
Now folks have a real wide range of likes and dislikes and we see it every day on these forums. One persons garbage is another person's treasure. But I thik it's pretty obvious that if you are a streaming service that paid ludicrous money (like ludicrous speed from spaceballs) you would probably want the majority of your customers to like it enough to bother watching it to the end. I do not think this is even open to debate.
Confirmation bias.
There are several shows on Netflix, Prims, and HBO Max that I like which I haven't finished. I might get around to them or not but that doesn't mean I don't think they're good or worth watching.
With shows I think are superb? Yeah, I consume those to the very end ASAP and sometimes go back and rewatch them. Rings of Power was not superb - 71% is about right IMO. The 2,9 from the mob isn't. That's just bombing for many reasons and it's a score that is full of shit.
I think you are an example of your own confirmation bias. ROP released over 8 months ago. I think its safe to say that most of thoise folks are unlikely to go back at this point, but sure there is the edge case. I mean... it's only 8 episodes.
And the 37% is actually pretty close to the 2.9 rating is it not? Its a lot closer to that score than the 71% that you "feel" is about right.
That doesn't invalidate your enjoyment of the show. At all. Just like some people love games on here that get scored low. Different strokes for different folks. Just be careful about constantly disregarding and degrading the opinions of OTHER folks.
But again, more importantly... if a company paid ludicrous money, and I hear the commitment is upwards of one billion dollars, to make a show... I think they want a lot more than 37% of the viewers to even make it to the end of the 8 episode season 1...
And maybe even more importantly to US... if Amazon was really happy with it's reception they probably would have wanted to tie in the game to it. And it's certainly possible they still will, but at this point it seems like they intend to go with the 3rd age. I guess we will see
I'm not looking for confirmation because I don't really give a shit who likes it or doesn't and I'm not trying to "win" anything about my opinion being the correct one - that's what you and Nilden are doing, not me.
I watched and liked it and that mob review bombing on Metacritic, which is not all but definitely includes racist fucks, can just piss off.
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For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
That's not even remotely true. None of it.
Not to say there aren't people who don't care or aren't bothered by any of it but since the very start there have been people upset, and in some cases exceedingly so, about ...
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For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
A few squeaky objections 15 years ago is your example of LotRO also being objectively criticized? Please. Where are those posters now because none of the people in this thread ever make a peep at how LotRO continues to trample all over the lore to this day.
Runekeepers, by far, aren't even the worst or most recent offenders. So, that one little buzz event 15 years ago doesn't really count as people treating it the same. There is more outrage in this one thread than all the LotRO threads on this site combined over the years. So please, don't try and use "but but the Runekeepers" as the lone weak example of how posters on this site have objectively treated LotRO and continue to do so.
Umm… many fans stopped playing around that time. Like you said it was a long time ago. I’m sure 15 years from now nobody will be yelling about Rings of Power either… likely long since faded into obscurity
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For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
A few squeaky objections 15 years ago is your example of LotRO also being objectively criticized? Please. Where are those posters now because none of the people in this thread ever make a peep at how LotRO continues to trample all over the lore to this day.
Runekeepers, by far, aren't even the worst or most recent offenders. So, that one little buzz event 15 years ago doesn't really count as people treating it the same. There is more outrage in this one thread than all the LotRO threads on this site combined over the years. So please, don't try and use "but but the Runekeepers" as the lone weak example of how posters on this site have objectively treated LotRO and continue to do so.
I recently posted my lore objections to LoTRO, starting when it released. The Lore Master was one of the original classes, and it is a clear violation since it is a wizard, and there were only 3 wizards in LOTR.
They originally said there would be no magic in the game, since there was no overt magic in the lore except for those 3 wizards. They even call it "tactical" instead of "magic".
So yes, some of us have posted recently about the lore violations of the LoTRO game.
Well simply put on that one, any objections I have to LotRO's liberty with the setting are/were met with not playing the game. I can't exactly get angry at something I don't interact with.
As for the show, it did disappoint me. Any political points aside, they altered elements of the core lore and even messed with timeline events enough that I just wasn't able to enjoy it as a a Lord of the Rings experience. If I took it as unassociated media, then it could be a b-tier fantasy maybe and I could see people enjoying it, but the show didn't even maintain consistency in it's own events. Not about to say people shouldn't or couldn't enjoy it, but for me it was a flop and really missed the mark as a LotR product.
This new MMO being disassociated with it sounds like a good thing to me, but what the game will actually be like is entirely up in the air.
For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
A few squeaky objections 15 years ago is your example of LotRO also being objectively criticized? Please. Where are those posters now because none of the people in this thread ever make a peep at how LotRO continues to trample all over the lore to this day.
Runekeepers, by far, aren't even the worst or most recent offenders. So, that one little buzz event 15 years ago doesn't really count as people treating it the same. There is more outrage in this one thread than all the LotRO threads on this site combined over the years. So please, don't try and use "but but the Runekeepers" as the lone weak example of how posters on this site have objectively treated LotRO and continue to do so.
Again, not exactly true. AT the time of each "issue" there were plenty of people exclaiming their displeasure. However, over time, those people either ceased to patronize this site or ceased to patronize the game OR just gave up complaining as there
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
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They can create superior avatars with really huge customization options. More clothing/armour than WoW and FF14 ever had. Really cool attacks that are spectacular. Amazon can hire all the best artists to make voiceovers and add hundreds of hours long cutscenes. It is all doable, requires money that they can throw.
I doubt they could re-create a warm, inviting atmosphere of LOTR. A peacefull Shire where simply Hobbits live their simple life. Kind of grumpy Dwarf lands where these sturdy folks mine and craft (if not drinking beer). Splendour of Elven world, that is touched by knowledge - Elves are to leave Middle Earth. An atmosphere that is warm, that invites you to stay.
Amazon probably can't create soul of a world. Rest would be nice nice that would have no spiritual ties to Lord of the Rings.
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There were so many things wrong with how they portrayed Galadriel.
Iselin said: The Shadiversity guy I linked is an expert in medieval stuff like castles and swords. You don't need a hit piece to make this look bad. You don't even need an autopsy or indepth deep dive into it. That does however point out more stuff that makes it look even worse.
It was really bad.
Amazon deleted reviews.
Once again 37% of people even bothered to finish watching it.
On top of that we have New World which has had some problems if I'm being nice.
I love Lord of the Rings. I enjoyed the current MMORPG for the most part. I want this to be good but let's not sugar coat this. This could be another New World with a 0.01 retention rate.
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But if you actually care about reviews and statistics, 71% from critics and 2.9 from the masses. That is the stereotypical Metacritic score for something that is more or less OK but got review bombed for reasons.
Also, InB4 "but reviewers from major publications are all corrupt, paid shills."
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But I do have to say, in this instance the most important fact seems to be that nearly 2 out of 3 people who started watching the show did not make it to the end (if that stat is real. I have no idea where it's from). I mean, there would be people who actually had some kind of interest in the show and disliked it enough not to watch it to the end.
Now folks have a real wide range of likes and dislikes and we see it every day on these forums. One persons garbage is another person's treasure. But I thik it's pretty obvious that if you are a streaming service that paid ludicrous money (like ludicrous speed from spaceballs) you would probably want the majority of your customers to like it enough to bother watching it to the end. I do not think this is even open to debate.
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My overall impression was it was not as bad as the naysayers were shouting, but that only goes so far, it was meant to be a huge ground breaking production which cost ~ £400 million. In those business terms it was a rather poor showing.
There are several shows on Netflix, Prims, and HBO Max that I like which I haven't finished. I might get around to them or not but that doesn't mean I don't think they're good or worth watching.
With shows I think are superb? Yeah, I consume those to the very end ASAP and sometimes go back and rewatch them. Rings of Power was not superb - 71% is about right IMO. The 2,9 from the mob isn't. That's just bombing for many reasons and it's a score that is full of shit.
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And I personally can't wait for season 2 of Rings of Power.
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And the 37% is actually pretty close to the 2.9 rating is it not? Its a lot closer to that score than the 71% that you "feel" is about right.
That doesn't invalidate your enjoyment of the show. At all. Just like some people love games on here that get scored low. Different strokes for different folks. Just be careful about constantly disregarding and degrading the opinions of OTHER folks.
But again, more importantly... if a company paid ludicrous money, and I hear the commitment is upwards of one billion dollars, to make a show... I think they want a lot more than 37% of the viewers to even make it to the end of the 8 episode season 1...
And maybe even more importantly to US... if Amazon was really happy with it's reception they probably would have wanted to tie in the game to it. And it's certainly possible they still will, but at this point it seems like they intend to go with the 3rd age. I guess we will see
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I watched and liked it and that mob review bombing on Metacritic, which is not all but definitely includes racist fucks, can just piss off.
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Not to say there aren't people who don't care or aren't bothered by any of it but since the very start there have been people upset, and in some cases exceedingly so, about ...
No pvp
then added Monster PvP added
The art design for the characters
the level of customization for characters
The changes to class, skills and even group play skills (or whatever they're called)
Loremasters
Rune Keepers
Beornlings
High Elves
Free to Play
Loot Crates
abysmal performance of war steeds
Legendary Items
The change to legendary items.
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As for the show, it did disappoint me. Any political points aside, they altered elements of the core lore and even messed with timeline events enough that I just wasn't able to enjoy it as a a Lord of the Rings experience. If I took it as unassociated media, then it could be a b-tier fantasy maybe and I could see people enjoying it, but the show didn't even maintain consistency in it's own events. Not about to say people shouldn't or couldn't enjoy it, but for me it was a flop and really missed the mark as a LotR product.
This new MMO being disassociated with it sounds like a good thing to me, but what the game will actually be like is entirely up in the air.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo