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Interview: Talking Throne and Liberty's Development, Global Version Differences And Comabt With Amaz

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edited June 2023 in News & Features Discussion
imageInterview: Talking Throne and Liberty's Development, Global Version Differences And Comabt With Amazon and NCSOFT | MMORPG.com

During Summer Game Fest 2023, we had the chance to sit down and chat with Amazon Games' Merv Lee Kwai as well as NCSOFT's Moonseop Lee and Jongok Ahn about the upcoming MMORPG, Throne and Liberty.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    I hope they really take the feedback into consideration.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875

    Tiller said:

    I hope they really take the feedback into consideration.



    I do as well but two questions. How much of T and L, the game, is designed around auto play / combat and how the cash shop runs to make them money? How many of the games systems are tied into this one feature?
    Valdheim
  • numaticnumatic Member UncommonPosts: 675
    edited November 2023
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875

    numatic said:

    I have almost zero hope they will make any drastically meaningful changes. They may tweak autoplay and autocombat. But I highly doubt it will be gone. The extremely heavy static combat is unlikely to change at all right now. It would require reworking the combat system as a whole. Even if it was simple to not lock the player in place, since the system wasn't designed for it, it could break the entire combat flow.



    Just don't be surprised if western beta is almost a carbon copy of Korean beta, just with some minor unimpactful changes.



    I would not count this game out yet. IMO Lineage players may like the current combat without auto play. Depends on how much they change and how much auto play in built into the other game systems. We have no clue at this point what the other features of the game look like. IMO Auto play could also be changed to not be a bad thing. BDO did a really good job with their auto play.
  • Ralphie2449Ralphie2449 Member UncommonPosts: 577
    I am just here to laugh when the people who initially got super hyped over extremely vague trailers and devs says "western focused mmo" because they kept imagining their perfect mmo, are now gonna be hyped that they ll totally redo the combat system even though the entire game is based around it xD


    Wonder if they ll say "evil ncsoft lied to us again, we got tricked!" for the 2nd time when they decided to take completely unclear and vague info without any details as confirmation of the "game will be what i want" xD
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  • VagabondoVagabondo Member UncommonPosts: 93
    Its free

    I will give it a try, even though time is the most precious thing in the world.
    Nanfoodle
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    edited June 2023
    Remember when Throne and Liberty was this?







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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Tiller said:
    Remember when Throne and Liberty was this?







    I am fine with it not being an ARPG-MMO. I personally would like to have the game the marketing team creatively showed in the last few videos. I wonder how much they had to play with things to get it to look like that vs what we saw in all the beta leaks?


    This is the game I wanted...

    Throne and Liberty - 1 minute of Action Gameplay [4K60FPS] - YouTube
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Nanfoodle said:

    numatic said:

    I have almost zero hope they will make any drastically meaningful changes. They may tweak autoplay and autocombat. But I highly doubt it will be gone. The extremely heavy static combat is unlikely to change at all right now. It would require reworking the combat system as a whole. Even if it was simple to not lock the player in place, since the system wasn't designed for it, it could break the entire combat flow.



    Just don't be surprised if western beta is almost a carbon copy of Korean beta, just with some minor unimpactful changes.



    I would not count this game out yet. IMO Lineage players may like the current combat without auto play. Depends on how much they change and how much auto play in built into the other game systems. We have no clue at this point what the other features of the game look like. IMO Auto play could also be changed to not be a bad thing. BDO did a really good job with their auto play.

    I'm fine with the combat without autoplay. I don't like "jumping around like you're a nut" combat.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Tiller said:
    Remember when Throne and Liberty was this?


    I wasn't thrilled about it when it was "this."

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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    edited June 2023
    Comabt, i do love comabt.



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    Neoyoshi said:
    Comabt, i do love comabt.



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  • jnugget173jnugget173 Member UncommonPosts: 24
    they wont do anything about the auto play just like they didnt when players hated it when it was added in to lineage 2
    Valdheim
  • OG_SolareusOG_Solareus Member RarePosts: 1,041
    NcSoft has become a multi billion dollar mobile waifu factory. They aren't serious about gaming anymore, and it shows.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    OG_Solareus said:
    NcSoft has become a multi billion dollar mobile waifu factory. They aren't serious about gaming anymore, and it shows.
    I think this all started with NcSoft changing course with its start at "City of Heroes". They saw where mobile was going and stopped caring about what PC gamers wanted. 
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    Nanfoodle said:
    Tiller said:
    Remember when Throne and Liberty was this?







    I am fine with it not being an ARPG-MMO. I personally would like to have the game the marketing team creatively showed in the last few videos. I wonder how much they had to play with things to get it to look like that vs what we saw in all the beta leaks?


    This is the game I wanted...

    Throne and Liberty - 1 minute of Action Gameplay [4K60FPS] - YouTube

    Ok now I remember why people expected action combat.
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  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    It's "wielding."
    And... only 6 years in the making? I thought that T&L had been in development for more than 10. I've read in multiple places that it actually started development in 2011.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    Samhael said:
    It's "wielding."
    And... only 6 years in the making? I thought that T&L had been in development for more than 10. I've read in multiple places that it actually started development in 2011.

    It was, it was originally placeholder titled Lineage Eternal

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Tiller said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Tiller said:
    Remember when Throne and Liberty was this?







    I am fine with it not being an ARPG-MMO. I personally would like to have the game the marketing team creatively showed in the last few videos. I wonder how much they had to play with things to get it to look like that vs what we saw in all the beta leaks?


    This is the game I wanted...

    Throne and Liberty - 1 minute of Action Gameplay [4K60FPS] - YouTube

    Ok now I remember why people expected action combat.
    I liked that much better!
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Samhael said:
    It's "wielding."
    And... only 6 years in the making? I thought that T&L had been in development for more than 10. I've read in multiple places that it actually started development in 2011.
    Hmmm it was my understanding that they had various incarnations of "Lineage 3." Eventually they decided to break off and do Throne and Liberty. I imagine some assets were used but "Throne and Liberty" wasn't in production for 10 years.
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