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Assassins Creed Mirage Review In Progress | MMORPG.com

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edited October 2023 in News & Features Discussion

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Assassins Creed Mirage is a return to the series' roots in a sense, bringing players to 9th-century Baghdad. But how does it stack up so far compared to the recent series entries? Here is our review in progress.

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  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 705
    Get well soon!

    According to SKill Ups review the game takes about 15 hours to beat so you should slowly approach the end.

    I guess I'm the minority here because I really liked the last 3 ACs, especially Valhalla but I must admit that they definitely were bloated and they'd just have to trim them a bit. But as far as I know there will also be another open-world-like so I'm just happy for the fans who wanted another 'classic' AC
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  • DrowNobleDrowNoble Member UncommonPosts: 1,297
    I was looking forward to it, til I found out Ubisoft is still bundling Denuvo in the PC version. At this point, I look at it this way...they just saved me $60-70 since I won't install malware on my PC.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited October 2023

    DrowNoble said:

    I was looking forward to it, til I found out Ubisoft is still bundling Denuvo in the PC version. At this point, I look at it this way...they just saved me $60-70 since I won't install malware on my PC.



    There is a question mark to how much Denuvo effects performance, do you have any other concerns about it? I note that it was not patched in when reviewers received their copy but this site takes it time about reviews which is how they should be done. So by the time ACM gets a score Joseph will have had plenty of time to see if there is a difference.
  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662

    Scot said:



    DrowNoble said:


    I was looking forward to it, til I found out Ubisoft is still bundling Denuvo in the PC version. At this point, I look at it this way...they just saved me $60-70 since I won't install malware on my PC.






    There is a question mark to how much Denuvo effects performance, do you have any other concerns about it? I note that it was not patched in when reviewers received their copy but this site takes it time about reviews which is how they should be done. So by the time ACM gets a score Joseph will have had plenty of time to see if there is a difference.



    Honestly, I don't actually think my version had Denuvo. But I've been playing mostly the PS5 version since I was laid up in bed with Covid during the process. I'll have to check this out, but in my experience Denuvo hasn't given me a performance impact.

    Then again, I'm sitting on a 4090 which probably brute forces through most of that.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    See, I was kinda hoping that they'd integrate the new combat into the old formula. The old combat has aged really poorly. 
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028

    Aeander said:

    See, I was kinda hoping that they'd integrate the new combat into the old formula. The old combat has aged really poorly. 



    People with rose colored glasses demanded they wanted the old AC. They got it.
    There's things new AC does well. There's things old AC does well. If Ubisoft were competent, they'd be able to marry the two. 
    Valdheim
  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760

    Valdheim said:

    Get well soon!



    According to SKill Ups review the game takes about 15 hours to beat so you should slowly approach the end.



    I guess I'm the minority here because I really liked the last 3 ACs, especially Valhalla but I must admit that they definitely were bloated and they'd just have to trim them a bit. But as far as I know there will also be another open-world-like so I'm just happy for the fans who wanted another 'classic' AC



    Minority? I don't know. I too preferred the last three. I bought all of those as soon as they were released but from the reviews I've been reading I think I'll give this one a miss. Maybe I might be tempted when it's been out a while and is on offer but it doesn't appeal enough to pay full price right now.
    Valdheim
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    ReaperUk said:

    Valdheim said:

    Get well soon!



    According to SKill Ups review the game takes about 15 hours to beat so you should slowly approach the end.



    I guess I'm the minority here because I really liked the last 3 ACs, especially Valhalla but I must admit that they definitely were bloated and they'd just have to trim them a bit. But as far as I know there will also be another open-world-like so I'm just happy for the fans who wanted another 'classic' AC



    Minority? I don't know. I too preferred the last three. I bought all of those as soon as they were released but from the reviews I've been reading I think I'll give this one a miss. Maybe I might be tempted when it's been out a while and is on offer but it doesn't appeal enough to pay full price right now.

    I loved Odyssey and Valhalla (though still playing them) but I can't say they were very "Assassin's Creedy." I mean, isn't the idea of Assassin's creed that people are sent back into the past? I never really got a lot of that in those games.

    I'm very understanding of people wanting that scenario. Personally I hated it as I thought it very contrived but if people love it then I get why they have been unsatisfied.

    Still, I love both Odyssey and Valhalla. Very fun open world games. With an Assassin's Creed moniker slapped on their butts.
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  • DrowNobleDrowNoble Member UncommonPosts: 1,297
    What is ignoble about Ubisoft, is review copies didn't have the Denuvo malware. Come Day One patch, it was added in. So, take any positive PC reviews with a grain of salt.

    It's almost like they know the malware would hurt performance, so they were deliberate in taking it out of reviewer's hands.

    That's fine, they just saved me $50.
  • TerazonTerazon Member RarePosts: 407
    Can't wait to carve out time to pick it up and play.
    I like the series and the return to a more stealth approach is what I have wanted for a while now. 

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    edited October 2023
    Sovrath said:

    Noone is sent back to the past. You relive the memories of the person in the past via their blood being entered into the Animus you lay in. Y

    I think that's what I mean as I remember the memory part and the animus. But what you said made me laugh as it reminded me of this.


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  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 517
    I have U+ and have been playing. So far it is alright. The cut scenes are good.... I'm playing on hard and pick pocketing is a little tedious. Its like a QTE and to get dervis artifacts the line is super small that you need to match. There is an option for auto pickpocketing, but that feels like cheating. You can also spend 7 skill points to help, but that seems like a large investment. The game is mostly sneaking around assassinating people so far, but I'm about 4 hours in. My favorite AC game was origins, then oddessy. I finished Valhalla and it was alright, but not very AC-y. I wish i had a bow or something in Mirage.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    Personally I preferred the huge open world games of Odyssey, Origins, and Valhalla. Odyssey being my favorite. I agree that they stepped perhaps too far away from requiring the stealth play style in an assassin's creed game since you could spec yourself into a 2-h wielding plate wearing juggernaut, but the stealth option was always there and I always went that direction. The idea of paying premium price for a 15 hour game doesn't sound like a good deal to me so I'll pass on this one until it goes on deep sale like 70% off on Steam. It will take a year or more for that but I am patient and there's plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 517
    One thing that bothers me is interactions with merchants. One they don't stop what they are doing when they talk to you (like sweeping the ground) but that is just minor. Second is the voice acting is very poor when talking to some of them. During the rest of the game i have not had an issue with the voice acting, some merchant interactions are like monotone, emotionless and just don't seem to flow to me
  • slowz2secretslowz2secret Member RarePosts: 445
    Agreed with this one, this is a solid 8 or even a 7.5, short story but good and intense, I liked the game, but after playing Odyssey I can't play non-open world assassin's creed anymore xD
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    Character and storywise it didn't look very compelling from what I saw.  The Ezio trilogy and AC4 were much better. 

    I was glad to see later AC titles mostly abandon the sections outside of the Animus as they were simply not as fun.  But the later titles simply became too bloated with side stuff, that I ended up skipping.  Although having them available to people that want to 100% is cool.


  • TerazonTerazon Member RarePosts: 407
    I haven’t played it yet so I don’t know how this compares to other games in the series but it is an area of history and the world I find interesting so I look forward to playing through it and determining for myself how it ranks among the best in the series. 
    What I do know is I like that the franchise can be many types of games for many types of gamers. 
  • KappadonnaKappadonna Member UncommonPosts: 119
    edited October 2023
    What is this entire misconception going around the internet that Mirage returns AC to its roots? It doesn't. Stealth in Mirage is exactly like Odyssey and Valhalla but stripped down. It forces you to use Stealth more than combat because nearly all skills you earn in the game promote assassination--but these are the same abilities (or thereabouts) you receive in Odyssey and Valhalla. The difference being that you don't receive loads of enhanced combat, archery, and health regen abilities as in the other two games. So while in those installments you have roughly three types of combat approach, here you have only one (although towards the end of Mirage, running in and killing enemies in 3 mins happens to be more efficient in this game too than stealthing around for twenty minutes).

    Furthermore, the AI in this game is notably worse than Valhalla and Odyssey, making any form of gameplay (stealth or otherwise) a breeze, even on the hardest difficulty setting. You can deploy a smoke bomb amidst a hostile group of five enemies and proceed to stealth kill them without delay. You can throw a trap at a group of hostiles, putting each of them to sleep, and immediately kill them. You honestly don't even need any tool other than the throwing knife, which is more overpowered than any bow/arrow from the previous games. Added: the enemies react poorly to their comrades being slain, even when right before their eyes. While in Odyssey and Valhalla the entire garrison would come after you, in Mirage you can break stealth, be spotted, and maybe only a few enemies attack you while the others stand not 20 meters away staring into the void.

    The elements that Mirage does introduce to heighten the need of stealth are also entirely unnecessary and never worth using. The "tokens" you receive---does any one use these ever? And if so, why? 32 hours in and I've maybe only once ever "collapsed" a structure onto an enemy, a feature they broadcast over and over in the marketing trailers and demo sessions. And I've only ever seen maybe one or two vaulting poles. As mentioned, the tools are all overpowered but entirely unnecessary---AI is too dumb to require them; simply stealth attacking everyone is ample and fast enough and creates less room for distraction or error. "Blend In" is only used when you need to eavesdrop for a quest. No usage of lights or shadows (apparently we get than in Red) and between your hawk-buddy and miraculous, unending eagle vision, you can spot every enemy for miles, mark/track them, and even see them from behind walls. How truly stealth-based is a game when you have such a massively unfair advantaged of seeing and tracking enemies through structures, walls, and whatnot? Seriously? Think about it....

    I do like the added pickpocket and notoriety systems, though both could use more depth. Bagdad is gorgeous, and the Arabic and Islamic flair is both fantastic and immersive.

    Mirage is fine. But it's a dumbed down version of Odyssey and Valhalla with little difference in combat and stealth (worse at both, I'd argue). You could always be stealthy in Valhalla and Odyssey if you so chose, only the game pushed you into combat more due to skill trees and gave you more variety when it came to combat and enemy engagements.

    Face it: Mirage is a holdover for Ubisoft to capitalize on the AC Name while they await Project Red (Japan) to release, which is the next true AC Game. Made by the Odyssey team, it's the next epic RPG in the AC line and the first to utilize whatever this new Nexus hub system that is somehow going to connect all their future AC titles.... I guess they also wanted to give Basim his origin story given he'll be a focal character moving forward in the series.

    Ubisoft marketed this as a "stealthier" AC and the ignorant online game journalists and gamers who barely play AC (or who haven't in years and don't know better) gobbled it up. And the internet, as it does, turned the cumulative story into: AC RETURNS TO ITS ROOTS WITH STEALTH. It didn't. Not really. It just stripped elements of their past two entries and made a smaller campaign that takes 30 hours vs. 130 hours. Even the same RPG elements as prior are all there, just not as apparent since you don't have shown levels or damage numbers floating above people's heads.

    Nothing wrong with this game, but let's stop pretending it's some huge return to stealth and the roots of AC. Same engines, same mechanics, same fundamental game since Origins. Like it or leave it. (I like them. Lots.)

    Just bring on Japan/Red already and let's get a move on....

  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    Wow, thats a pretty high score for this game; i was certain this game was going to get racked through the coals. o___o


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