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In Predictable Fashion The Day Before Disappoints on Early Access Launch Day | MMOWTF | Opinion | MM

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited December 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageIn Predictable Fashion The Day Before Disappoints on Early Access Launch Day | MMOWTF | Opinion | MMORPG.com

Despite numerous delays and even a legal challenge, the developers at Fntastic persevered, and now that Early Access is live, the veil has dropped and we're now starting to see exactly what we expected.

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  • Pher0ciousPher0cious Member RarePosts: 526
    edited December 2023
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    This all I needed to read.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    I am 100% shocked by this development.

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  • DekahnDekahn Member UncommonPosts: 105
    Yeah, I think we all saw this coming.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    The Day Before mass refunds lol
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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,005
    Well I mean…did anyone expect this game to not be a complete dumpster fire? I’m betting The Day Before breaks the all-time record for most refunds.
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  • RaagnarzRaagnarz Member RarePosts: 647
    This garbage better get delisted from Steam again for fraud. I have no personal skin in the game as I didn't buy it and never would. But this sounds like a blatant bait and switch. Telling people it's an open world MMO that is in reality a barebones extraction shooter? How is this not illegal?
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  • hupahupa Member UncommonPosts: 170
    I was hoping it's actually good game. Shucks.
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  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,313

    templarga said:

    New arrogant dev company announce amazing new game. 

    New company realizes they cannot deliver for whatever reason(s).

    New company starts to use recycled assets. New company uses volunteer help.

    New company faces copyright infringement complaints. 

    New company must launch game so turn game into a miniscule piece of what is promised. 

    New company does not tell players of changes until after early access launch and people have forked over money.

    New game is trashed in comments and reviews.

    Seen this before many times. Delisting this from my wish list and moving on. Nothing to see here that will be remotely fun or playable until 226 at the earliest.




    What makes you think it's a new company?


    This is a company with several releases, so it has a track record of lousy launches, and abandoning games shortly after arrival.

    Kinda makes it that much worse when you realize they aren't new.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Hengist said:

    templarga said:

    New arrogant dev company announce amazing new game. 

    New company realizes they cannot deliver for whatever reason(s).

    New company starts to use recycled assets. New company uses volunteer help.

    New company faces copyright infringement complaints. 

    New company must launch game so turn game into a miniscule piece of what is promised. 

    New company does not tell players of changes until after early access launch and people have forked over money.

    New game is trashed in comments and reviews.

    Seen this before many times. Delisting this from my wish list and moving on. Nothing to see here that will be remotely fun or playable until 226 at the earliest.




    What makes you think it's a new company?


    This is a company with several releases, so it has a track record of lousy launches, and abandoning games shortly after arrival.

    Kinda makes it that much worse when you realize they aren't new.
    Some you just gotta think Sergey Titov is behind all of this.

    Everyone saw this coming, yet idiot gamers still lined up to throw money at them.



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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    hupa said:
    I was hoping it's actually good game. Shucks.

    Oh C'mon...even the trailer was absolute shite and made no sense.
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  • Phoenix_HawkPhoenix_Hawk Member UncommonPosts: 298
    I at least hope most of the people that were still looking to get into this, just wanted to experience the expected train wreck first hand for a bit, then refund it.
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  • MazenealMazeneal Member UncommonPosts: 169
    Steven.....why are you calling it an MMO? You have been around long enough to know WTF an MMO is and WTF an MMO isn't! Seriously....
    Kyleran
  • MazenealMazeneal Member UncommonPosts: 169

    Raagnarz said:

    This garbage better get delisted from Steam again for fraud. I have no personal skin in the game as I didn't buy it and never would. But this sounds like a blatant bait and switch. Telling people it's an open world MMO that is in reality a barebones extraction shooter? How is this not illegal?



    Because there aren't any laws any where regarding what genre or sub-genre you decide to call your video game!? There's nothing wrong with saying something or adding to the conversation on a topic where you have nothing invested. If you're going to, though, please at least do one or the other if not both...
  • Yozzer83Yozzer83 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    Mazeneal clearly not a lawyer.
    Raagnarz
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    It's okay they will get excoriated on Steam. The reviews will tank the game faster than you can say 'scam'.
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  • RaagnarzRaagnarz Member RarePosts: 647

    Mazeneal said:



    Raagnarz said:


    This garbage better get delisted from Steam again for fraud. I have no personal skin in the game as I didn't buy it and never would. But this sounds like a blatant bait and switch. Telling people it's an open world MMO that is in reality a barebones extraction shooter? How is this not illegal?






    Because there aren't any laws any where regarding what genre or sub-genre you decide to call your video game!? There's nothing wrong with saying something or adding to the conversation on a topic where you have nothing invested. If you're going to, though, please at least do one or the other if not both...



    Actually in the USA bait and switch does apply to online sales along with brick and mortar, check the FTC laws genius. My uncle has prosecuted 2 cases of online fraud due to bait and switch tactics. So kindly STFU about things you obviously know nothing about. Just say you're a shill for the company and kindly move on. This "game" is downright fraud based on their own advertising. Hell their steam promo video (still up as of earlier today) calls it an open world survival MMO. Their steam video still shows off features they claim are in the game but aren't. And your moronic take that I can't comment on it since I didn't buy this fraudulent piece of software, because I actually have a functioning brain and eyes that easily showed me what garbage this was from the beginning, might be the most imbecilic take on these forums in 2023.
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    How would fraud laws apply if a game is in "Early Access"?
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  • sschruppsschrupp Member UncommonPosts: 693
    I made the mistake of not following the drama of this game. I saw the original stuff that was released and was excited for a modern co-op Division-ish survival game. Then I heard there was drama, but didn't look into it. I figured it would either die or make it through.

    Then yesterday I didn't expect the "make it through" would mean instead of co-op Division-ish survival game they would release an empty of zombies, small mapped, full PvP extraction game. Bummer. :(

    Luckily I was watching a streamer when he suddenly got ganked. Almost clicked the buy button!
    Kyleran
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,748
    Steam Reviews are on it:

    Overwhelmingly Negative (15% of 10,954) ALL TIME
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    Wargfoot said:
    How would fraud laws apply if a game is in "Early Access"?
    You are allowed to sell incomplete or non-functional product only if you explicitly tell that it's incomplete or non-functional.

    Steam's early access tells clearly that it is incomplete, but since there are no warnings about functionality, the game and all the parts in it must work just like all other games must work.

    Also marketing information must be correct. Most importantly, Steam's product description and screenshots must describe the game as it is now. The sellers can optionally also release information on what their plans for the game's future are, but they may not claim that the game includes something before they've actually implemented it.
    Raagnarz
     
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    edited December 2023
    Look at those numbers.  I haven't seen numbers this bad since Overwatch 2. 





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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    In the Fractured Online general chat there were 2-3 people who mentioned they'd tried the game, played less than an hour, and immediately requested a refund.  As the Fractured Online chat doesn't have much in the way  of filtering the reviews were refreshingly candid.
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