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Wizards of the Coast Denies Reports It's Looking To Sell Off D&D IP | MMORPG.com

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edited February 2 in News & Features Discussion

imageWizards of the Coast Denies Reports It's Looking To Sell Off D&D IP | MMORPG.com

Wizards of the Coast has now publicly denied reports that it is considering selling its Dungeons & Dragons IP.

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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,644
    I hope they are speaking the truth and don't sell it to TENCENT or anyone at all.

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  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200

    The_Real_Dural said:

    I wouldn't be heart broken if it did sell because standing stone games would probably not get a re-up from tencent.



    Why would you want a game that plenty of people still play to die? Just spite or?
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    Maybe it really is just a rumor, or someone misunderstood a conversation in passing and ran with it to make bigger headlines?


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  • fs23otmfs23otm Member RarePosts: 506
    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...

    Profits likely dropping...
  • Hawkeye666Hawkeye666 Member UncommonPosts: 41
    edited February 2
    Sell it to Games Workshop. That would be an interesting irony since they started as England's D&D magazine. But... They will monetize the hell out of it.
  • ShinyFlygonShinyFlygon Member UncommonPosts: 589

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    We are not just talking DnD, if Hasbro own WotC they own the Masquerade and all the rest. Roleplaying books are not doing as well as they used to because physical books are not doing as well as they used to. But the digital areas is strong and with gaming, TV and film desperate for IP's they have a winner.
  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    Scot said:
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    We are not just talking DnD, if Hasbro own WotC they own the Masquerade and all the rest. Roleplaying books are not doing as well as they used to because physical books are not doing as well as they used to. But the digital areas is strong and with gaming, TV and film desperate for IP's they have a winner.
    Just going to pop in to say that VtM is owned by Paradox Interactive, not WotC. Paradox owns the entire World of Darkness IP after they bought it from CCP back in 2015. Wizards is literally just D&D and MtG at this point. 
    ScotCogohi
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    lotrlore said:
    Scot said:
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    We are not just talking DnD, if Hasbro own WotC they own the Masquerade and all the rest. Roleplaying books are not doing as well as they used to because physical books are not doing as well as they used to. But the digital areas is strong and with gaming, TV and film desperate for IP's they have a winner.
    Just going to pop in to say that VtM is owned by Paradox Interactive, not WotC. Paradox owns the entire World of Darkness IP after they bought it from CCP back in 2015. Wizards is literally just D&D and MtG at this point. 
    Ahh yes, they moved on, VtM and WoD. Not sure they have done as well as DnD, even though Vampire 5th was a triumph in my eyes I just don't see as many spin offs outside TTRPG.
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    what numbers?
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    what numbers?

    2, 7, I believe there's a 0 in there somewhere ... o:)
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  • ShinyFlygonShinyFlygon Member UncommonPosts: 589
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    ShinyFlygon said:

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    what numbers?

    BookScan, for one, which indicates a slight (totally expected) decline after the pandemic, but numbers that are still extremely good, certainly outclassing any other TTRPG in existence.
  • DjijinDjijin Member UncommonPosts: 108
    edited February 5

    fs23otm said:

    Critical Role pulls out of D&D... they lose a massive fanbase. They try to screw over content creators with licensing scam... lose content creators...



    Profits likely dropping...



    Nope, it turns out the only people who believe D&D is tanking are those who want it to fail. An objective look at the numbers indicates that the property is doing quite well, and Hasbro would be crazy to try to unload it.
    what numbers?

    BookScan, for one, which indicates a slight (totally expected) decline after the pandemic, but numbers that are still extremely good, certainly outclassing any other TTRPG in existence.
    You are still thinking in old fashioned capitalism ways. Making money is not enough. Corporations demand that sales meet growth expectations. 

    Many products and games are cancelled not because they weren't making money, but because they weren't meeting growth metrics set by corporate number crunchers. The very fact D&D is now a quarterly report metric is why it will be warped into the largest money earner possible, and will 'fail' despite being profitable.

    It's not enough to meet consumer demand. It must meet investor return demands.

    D&D failed it's audience the moment it was owned by a publicly traded company. It was stripped out of the hands of the consumer as with all products that go public. It's now Disneyland built for the masses. 
    skeaser
  • ShinyFlygonShinyFlygon Member UncommonPosts: 589
    Djijin said:
    You are still thinking in old fashioned capitalism ways. Making money is not enough. Corporations demand that sales meet growth expectations. 

    Many products and games are cancelled not because they weren't making money, but because they weren't meeting growth metrics set by corporate number crunchers. The very fact D&D is now a quarterly report metric is why it will be warped into the largest money earner possible, and will 'fail' despite being profitable.

    It's not enough to meet consumer demand. It must meet investor return demands.

    D&D failed it's audience the moment it was owned by a publicly traded company. It was stripped out of the hands of the consumer as with all products that go public. It's now Disneyland built for the masses. 
    "Stripped out of the hands of the consumer"? What does that even mean? As far as I know, Disneyland is still turning a profit and is in no danger of being sold. You may personally not be a fan of Disneyland, but that doesn't mean it's going to fail.

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