Warner Bros Discovery CFO: Suicide Squad Game 'Has Fallen Short of Expectations'

System · February 25

Warner Bros Discovery CFO: Suicide Squad Game

Less than a month after a rough launch, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League already officially has a pessimistic outlook, per an earnings call from publisher Warner Bros Discovery.

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Neoyoshi · February 25

Shocking, i'm flabbergasted, who knew?

Scot · February 25

"Ironically, one of the big outcries from this game was that shareholder expectations of games were ruining otherwise perfectly-decent games."

Designing and releasing to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in gaming today. It puts studios in a harness, making them avoid experimentation and "release launch" too early.

Mensur · February 25

These guys have no grounding in reality.

ValdemarJ · February 25

If they're shocked at this wait until their "yet another DC reboot" flops. They had good people in their roles. They just needed to actually do something with them. Warner Bros Discovery, Gunn, and Safran are out of touch.

Alverant · February 25

Scot said:

"Ironically, one of the big outcries from this game was that shareholder expectations of games were ruining otherwise perfectly-decent games."

Designing and releasing to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in gaming today. It puts studios in a harness, making them avoid experimentation and "release launch" too early.

Catering to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in the world today. FIFY. And that's not hyperbole. Shareholder expectations have become "make all the money today and next quarter make even more money". Not only does that lead to employee burnout but making bad products which pollute and soon wind up in landfills requiring more resources to replace. Greed is responsible for making life harder.

ZenJelly · February 25

The article tries to state this game has a great story, which is factually wrong. The story was worse than the gameplay. By a wide margin.

Mensur · February 26

ZenJelly said:

The article tries to state this game has a great story, which is factually wrong. The story was worse than the gameplay. By a wide margin.

TBH I dont think they even played the game.

DeskMonkey13 · February 26

I mean, lest anyone forget, the C-Suites across the world are the driving forces to inflation.

KnightFalz · February 26

Scot said:

"Ironically, one of the big outcries from this game was that shareholder expectations of games were ruining otherwise perfectly-decent games."

Designing and releasing to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in gaming today. It puts studios in a harness, making them avoid experimentation and "release launch" too early.

Shareholders aren't the problem. They do precisely what they are supposed to, invest money in the hope of a return on that investment.

The problem is that significant revenue can now be earned through accommodating content requests that deviate from that historically desired and enjoyed by players.

As a consequence making that less desirable to players can now be as equally or more profitable due to compliance payouts.

Aeander · February 26

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

DigDuggy · February 26

The movie didn't do well, this didn't do well... I wonder if people will keep thinking it's a good idea to follow this subject.

Scot · February 26

KnightFalz said:

Scot said:

"Ironically, one of the big outcries from this game was that shareholder expectations of games were ruining otherwise perfectly-decent games."

Designing and releasing to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in gaming today. It puts studios in a harness, making them avoid experimentation and "release launch" too early.

Shareholders aren't the problem. They do precisely what they are supposed to, invest money in the hope of a return on that investment.

The problem is that significant revenue can now be earned through accommodating content requests that deviate from that historically desired and enjoyed by players.

As a consequence making that less desirable to players can now be as equally or more profitable due to compliance payouts.

Executives feel a need to live up to what was promised in a quarter, games have had there release date decided because of that. Perhaps someone can remember which game by EA had its launch mentioned in an update to calm investors before it was officially mentioned to the public? Likewise experimentation is out of the window, where is the sure fire return in that?

But you have lost me here, what "content requests" are you talking about? Are you indicating something like New World that suddenly veered to PvE after player discontent?

peewee78368 · February 26

What did they expect i was part of the early testing alpha stages for feedback. It was soo bad that we legit had people leave the alpha stages cuz of how bad the game was even then and the fact MOST OF OUR FEEDBACK WAS IGNORED... Yeah they deserver all the hate and pain to come. also the devs their were really really woke and wanted to push thier agenda in game u can clearly see it in game. We had a trans dev interview from the team and he/she cant remember asked if they mad batman trans would we be upset like are u talking about??? are u kidding me lol we have batwomen and batgirl already we dont need a trans batman -.- i wish i could post the stuff they wanted to do it was crazy

ValdemarJ · February 26

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

Aeander · February 26

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Nanfoodle · February 27

Should have just made a quality game that follwed, Batman: Arkham City. Gamers can only support so many live service games. When they gonna get that most of the game produced need to be a 30-60hr game play and move on. DLCs need to add real content, not skins and game coins.

Alverant · February 27

Angrakhan said:

DeskMonkey13 said:

I mean, lest anyone forget, the C-Suites across the world are the driving forces to inflation.

Primary cause of inflation is governments printing money, not anything C-suites are doing. Biden admin was warned multiple times from multiple sources that all these trillion dollar bailouts would cause inflation. His administration pressed on with the trillion dollar bailouts. Now we have inflation and we're blaming corporate executives? Typical socialist propaganda machine at work.

Really? Then explain why it's happening all over the world and how corporate profits are at an all-time high. I noticed you left out the tax breaks of the previous administration and how the "bailouts" are for dealing with COVID fallout. Typical "never blame the 1%" propaganda.

kitarad · February 27

Yeah I agree with @ValdemarJ that Marvel's Midnight Suns is a great game.

Scot · February 27

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Marvel Avengers is well worth a play through, but once you finish the campaign move on. While I have bought MMS and GotG they are yet to be played but I am sure they will go down well. I won't be getting GK.

KnightFalz · February 27

Scot said:

KnightFalz said:

Scot said:

"Ironically, one of the big outcries from this game was that shareholder expectations of games were ruining otherwise perfectly-decent games."

Designing and releasing to shareholders expectations is one of the biggest problems in gaming today. It puts studios in a harness, making them avoid experimentation and "release launch" too early.

Shareholders aren't the problem. They do precisely what they are supposed to, invest money in the hope of a return on that investment.

The problem is that significant revenue can now be earned through accommodating content requests that deviate from that historically desired and enjoyed by players.

As a consequence making that less desirable to players can now be as equally or more profitable due to compliance payouts.

Executives feel a need to live up to what was promised in a quarter, games have had there release date decided because of that. Perhaps someone can remember which game by EA had its launch mentioned in an update to calm investors before it was officially mentioned to the public? Likewise experimentation is out of the window, where is the sure fire return in that?

But you have lost me here, what "content requests" are you talking about? Are you indicating something like New World that suddenly veered to PvE after player discontent?

I am talking about elements added to the game for which they are rewarded for the inclusion by other than purchasing customers. The money received from such can be significant enough to motivate making decisions that would not be taken if players were the sole source of revenue for the game.

ValdemarJ · February 27

Scot said:

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Marvel Avengers is well worth a play through, but once you finish the campaign move on. While I have bought MMS and GotG they are yet to be played but I am sure they will go down well. I won't be getting GK.

Marvel Avengers isn't worth the time or bandwidth to download, but now I understand what kinds of game quality you guys like. Now that there are 2 posters who thought Marvel Avengers was a good game and worth more time than GotG, which is probably the best superhero game next to Spiderman, we can at least have a discussion about it.

Gotham Knights has a fairly forgettable story (it's the DC thread where Batman dies and his crew takes over), but the action is good. The encounters and combat are pretty decent.

Tell me, in Marvel avengers which of the two mob types did you like, the range or melee guys? I personally like the red melee guys over the blue ones.

Now that I finally know what quality of games you like, I'd like to recommend Gollum and Saga of Lucimia, and maybe some Alganon for your enjoyment.

Aeander · February 27

ValdemarJ said:

Scot said:

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Marvel Avengers is well worth a play through, but once you finish the campaign move on. While I have bought MMS and GotG they are yet to be played but I am sure they will go down well. I won't be getting GK.

Marvel Avengers isn't worth the time or bandwidth to download, but now I understand what kinds of game quality you guys like. Now that there are 2 posters who thought Marvel Avengers was a good game and worth more time than GotG, which is probably the best superhero game next to Spiderman, we can at least have a discussion about it.

Gotham Knights has a fairly forgettable story (it's the DC thread where Batman dies and his crew takes over), but the action is good. The encounters and combat are pretty decent.

Tell me, in Marvel avengers which of the two mob types did you like, the range or melee guys? I personally like the red melee guys over the blue ones.

Now that I finally know what quality of games you like, I'd like to recommend Gollum and Saga of Lucimia, and maybe some Alganon for your enjoyment.

At no point did I say Avengers was better than my GotY 2021 Guardians of the Galaxy, lol.

Gotham Knights does NOT have good action. Or good anything else from that matter. It's a watered down Batman Arkham with way too much travel time, low content variety, a forgettable soundtrack, a shallow gear system, poor mission design, and a lifeless city. The one and only thing it has over Avengers is that it isn't littered with bugs. Don't throw stones from glass houses.

ValdemarJ · February 27

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Scot said:

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Marvel Avengers is well worth a play through, but once you finish the campaign move on. While I have bought MMS and GotG they are yet to be played but I am sure they will go down well. I won't be getting GK.

Marvel Avengers isn't worth the time or bandwidth to download, but now I understand what kinds of game quality you guys like. Now that there are 2 posters who thought Marvel Avengers was a good game and worth more time than GotG, which is probably the best superhero game next to Spiderman, we can at least have a discussion about it.

Gotham Knights has a fairly forgettable story (it's the DC thread where Batman dies and his crew takes over), but the action is good. The encounters and combat are pretty decent.

Tell me, in Marvel avengers which of the two mob types did you like, the range or melee guys? I personally like the red melee guys over the blue ones.

Now that I finally know what quality of games you like, I'd like to recommend Gollum and Saga of Lucimia, and maybe some Alganon for your enjoyment.

At no point did I say Avengers was better than my GotY 2021 Guardians of the Galaxy, lol.

Gotham Knights does NOT have good action. Or good anything else from that matter. It's a watered down Batman Arkham with way too much travel time, low content variety, a forgettable soundtrack, a shallow gear system, poor mission design, and a lifeless city. The one and only thing it has over Avengers is that it isn't littered with bugs. Don't throw stones from glass houses.

What glass house? I've played all 4 games I cited and MA was by far the worst superhero or action game I've ever played. It was buggy af and has 2 mob types, ranged and melee that have different suit colors in different areas. I stopped playing after the Hulk fight because it's that bad.

GK has mixed reception while MA has been universally castigated as the trash heap it is. Funny you're trying so hard to validate your elevation of it. MA is basically free to play now because it's so bad they can't sell it. It's also dumb you chose GK to make an argument out of those three and didn't even mention the other two, which are remarkably better. Next time don't choose a Jerry level game for your hill to die on and people won't poke at it.

Aeander · February 27

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Scot said:

Aeander said:

ValdemarJ said:

Aeander said:

I look forward to playing it on Gamepass/PS Plus Extra in a year.

Much like "Marvel Avengers", it probably isn't worth your time. You can play Marvel Avengers for free now (at least on Xbox) and still no one wastes their time with it.

I'd recommend Marvel Midnight Suns, Gotham Knights, or Guardians of the Galaxy for pretty decent multiplatform superhero RPGs.

I played more of Marvel's Avengers on PS Plus extra than I'd care to admit, and it was fine. I'm glad I didn't preorder it, but it was worth my time.

Now, Gotham Knights was dull as fuck. Barely worth the gamepass time and I'm even more glad I didn't preorder it.

Marvel Avengers is well worth a play through, but once you finish the campaign move on. While I have bought MMS and GotG they are yet to be played but I am sure they will go down well. I won't be getting GK.

Marvel Avengers isn't worth the time or bandwidth to download, but now I understand what kinds of game quality you guys like. Now that there are 2 posters who thought Marvel Avengers was a good game and worth more time than GotG, which is probably the best superhero game next to Spiderman, we can at least have a discussion about it.

Gotham Knights has a fairly forgettable story (it's the DC thread where Batman dies and his crew takes over), but the action is good. The encounters and combat are pretty decent.

Tell me, in Marvel avengers which of the two mob types did you like, the range or melee guys? I personally like the red melee guys over the blue ones.

Now that I finally know what quality of games you like, I'd like to recommend Gollum and Saga of Lucimia, and maybe some Alganon for your enjoyment.

At no point did I say Avengers was better than my GotY 2021 Guardians of the Galaxy, lol.

Gotham Knights does NOT have good action. Or good anything else from that matter. It's a watered down Batman Arkham with way too much travel time, low content variety, a forgettable soundtrack, a shallow gear system, poor mission design, and a lifeless city. The one and only thing it has over Avengers is that it isn't littered with bugs. Don't throw stones from glass houses.

What glass house? I've played all 4 games I cited and MA was by far the worst superhero or action game I've ever played. It was buggy af and has 2 mob types, ranged and melee that have different suit colors in different areas. I stopped playing after the Hulk fight because it's that bad.

GK has mixed reception while MA has been universally castigated as the trash heap it is. Funny you're trying so hard to validate your elevation of it. MA is basically free to play now because it's so bad they can't sell it. It's also dumb you chose GK to make an argument out of those three and didn't even mention the other two, which are remarkably better. Next time don't choose a Jerry level game for your hill to die on and people won't poke at it.

I'm not dying on the hill that MA is good. Because it isn't. It's unfinished. It's just better than one of your recommendations.

I take offense at the notion that GK is anything other than a steaming pile of shit. And I'm sorry, but sometimes consensus is fucking wrong, and no one should play it.

I did not choose to argue the point of GotG, MMS, or Spiderman because they are good games.

Scot · February 27

ValdemarJ said:

Marvel Avengers isn't worth the time or bandwidth to download, but now I understand what kinds of game quality you guys like. Now that there are 2 posters who thought Marvel Avengers was a good game and worth more time than GotG, which is probably the best superhero game next to Spiderman, we can at least have a discussion about it.

Gotham Knights has a fairly forgettable story (it's the DC thread where Batman dies and his crew takes over), but the action is good. The encounters and combat are pretty decent.

Tell me, in Marvel avengers which of the two mob types did you like, the range or melee guys? I personally like the red melee guys over the blue ones.

Now that I finally know what quality of games you like, I'd like to recommend Gollum and Saga of Lucimia, and maybe some Alganon for your enjoyment. :lol

I am not comparing MA to those other games as I have not played them, going on what has been said about GK I won't be playing it. I fully expect both Mid Suns and GotG to be better than MA, I played MA first because I play the weakest of games from a similar genre first and try to save the best until last. Only play MA with a big discount or on a Pass mind you, it was labored in stretches.

Supers fans are not exactly deluged with quality games, if you like supers you are forgiving and that is certainly a factor in MA. You just seem to be coming at this from a gaming point of view which s fair, we are coming at this from a gaming and supers fan pov which is equally fair.

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