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Survival Crafting MMORPG BitCraft Gets First Gameplay Trailer and a Closed Alpha Date | MMORPG.com

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Clockwork Labs has announced that BitCraft will begin its closed alpha on April 4th. The team revealed the news along with the survival crafting MMORPG's first official gameplay trailer.

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Survival Crafting MMORPG

    What does MMO mean? I say the M in MMO is the Roman numeral for 1,000. If it's called an MMO, it has to be able to have 1,000 players playing together.

    What does RPG mean? To me it means "role playing game." In those games, you take on a role in a virtual world, and play it. Then you can come back and choose a completely different role and the game will play differently too. Normally you build up your character as you play, and this is a big part of an RPG. How you build for the role you have chosen.

    It sounds like this game might qualify as an MMO, since they claim "thousands" of players together. But nothing was said about any RPG elements.

    Can a survival game really be an RPG? How would you start a new game and play it completely differently based on your different role? Does this game have classes? Most RPG's do.

    The only survival crafting MMORPG that I've played is Ryzom. It's not really survival except you do have to make all your own tools, weapons, and armor by gathering resources and crafting. It has no classes and no real roles either. You level skills and there is no limit, you could level every skill to max with enough time, so you'd be playing all roles at the same time.

    Ryzom like Skyrim lets you level any skill you want, but with limited time (Ryzom) and limited skillpoints (Skyrim) you tend to specialize in a few skills, so kind of like a role.

    What RPG elements does this game have?

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  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    block chain garbage
    Kyleran

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • TerazonTerazon Member RarePosts: 407

    Mensur said:

    block chain garbage



    It is not a blockchain game.
    ValdemarJ
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited March 7
    Terazon said:

    Mensur said:

    block chain garbage



    It is not a blockchain game.
    Yeah, pretty sure it is 

    "Described as a “database and server combined into one,” SpacetimeDB is roughly explained as similar to a smart contract system that’s been used for blockchain games but without any association to crypto or blockchain tech whatsoever (since it’s its own database)"

    I mean isn't smart contract system synonymous with Blockchain? 

    https://massivelyop.com/2023/08/10/bitcraft-developer-releases-source-code-for-its-spacetimedb-backend-engine-to-everyone-on-github/

    Yep, pretty sure it is and Bitcraft devs are trying to weasel past it 

    How do smart contracts work?

    "A smart contract is a special kind of program that encodes business logic that runs on a special-purpose virtual machine baked into a blockchain or other type of distributed ledger"

    https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/smart-contract

    If it looks like a Blockchain and smells like a Blockchain, it's most probably a Blockchain based game.



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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited March 7
    Some other red flags with this one

    Procedurally generated worlds and Unity for it's engine, yet somehow their magic "spacetimedb" backend / database will support thousands in a single world.

    Which they decided to give away for free.

    Now where have I heard this before?

    Oh yes, SpatialOS....that sure turned out well, amirite? (Definitely wasn't free either)

    (Totally walked away from supporting game development to chase the metaverse)

    https://www.improbable.io/news/improbable-accelerates-into-the-metaverse

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  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    Kyleran said:
    Terazon said:

    Mensur said:

    block chain garbage



    It is not a blockchain game.
    Yeah, pretty sure it is 

    "Described as a “database and server combined into one,” SpacetimeDB is roughly explained as similar to a smart contract system that’s been used for blockchain games but without any association to crypto or blockchain tech whatsoever (since it’s its own database)"

    I mean isn't smart contract system synonymous with Blockchain? 

    https://massivelyop.com/2023/08/10/bitcraft-developer-releases-source-code-for-its-spacetimedb-backend-engine-to-everyone-on-github/

    Yep, pretty sure it is and Bitcraft devs are trying to weasel past it 

    How do smart contracts work?

    "A smart contract is a special kind of program that encodes business logic that runs on a special-purpose virtual machine baked into a blockchain or other type of distributed ledger"

    https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/smart-contract

    If it looks like a Blockchain and smells like a Blockchain, it's most probably a Blockchain based game.



    Clockwork Labs has been pretty anti-blockchain/crypto, though. While the company has described its engine as working "similar" to a smart contract-style system, there's no indication whatsoever that crypto or blockchain elements are in this. 

    The cofounder has talked about blockchain, crypto, NFTs and how it plays into BitCraft here - https://clockwork-labs.medium.com/thoughts-on-cryptocurrencies-and-games-dacfe8051e98

    Otherwise we would have labeled this as part of our MMONFT column series. 
    ValdemarJ
  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    I'll also add that this project is different than the Minecraft server that comes up via a simple Google Search - which should be clear but likely isn't. 

    https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/1455374
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,377
    I'm still keeping an eye on this game to see how it eventually turns out. I'm perfectly find with blockchain tech being used with their db tech. I'm not interested in Play2Earn or whatever, crypto currencies, or NFTs, so if it ends up being like that, then I'll pass. I haven't heard any rumors suggesting the latter, so I'll wait to make judgements about the former until I see how it will work. There is a lot more than blockchain tech that will make or break my interest in this.

    Honestly, the one I'm very interested in is Hytale, but I haven't seen a lot of info about them pop up lately on my reddit feed.
    Terazon
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  • StevenWeberStevenWeber MMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 116
    lotrlore said:
    Kyleran said:
    Terazon said:

    Mensur said:

    block chain garbage



    It is not a blockchain game.
    Yeah, pretty sure it is 

    "Described as a “database and server combined into one,” SpacetimeDB is roughly explained as similar to a smart contract system that’s been used for blockchain games but without any association to crypto or blockchain tech whatsoever (since it’s its own database)"

    I mean isn't smart contract system synonymous with Blockchain? 

    https://massivelyop.com/2023/08/10/bitcraft-developer-releases-source-code-for-its-spacetimedb-backend-engine-to-everyone-on-github/

    Yep, pretty sure it is and Bitcraft devs are trying to weasel past it 

    How do smart contracts work?

    "A smart contract is a special kind of program that encodes business logic that runs on a special-purpose virtual machine baked into a blockchain or other type of distributed ledger"

    https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/smart-contract

    If it looks like a Blockchain and smells like a Blockchain, it's most probably a Blockchain based game.



    Clockwork Labs has been pretty anti-blockchain/crypto, though. While the company has described its engine as working "similar" to a smart contract-style system, there's no indication whatsoever that crypto or blockchain elements are in this. 

    The cofounder has talked about blockchain, crypto, NFTs and how it plays into BitCraft here - https://clockwork-labs.medium.com/thoughts-on-cryptocurrencies-and-games-dacfe8051e98

    Otherwise we would have labeled this as part of our MMONFT column series. 
    Greetings Web3 Curious MMORPGers,

    Just jumping in on what Joseph is saying here. BitCraft's server system is advertised as a "serverless" infrastructure. This is similar to the way some blockchain games (and blockchain engines like Xaya) work. Essentially in these "serverless" games, you're housing data on the blockchain, running off of a decentralized protocol such as Ethereum. 

    BitCraft's system is serverless, but isn't utilizing a decentralized consensus for the writing of data.

    If you consider it like a "centralized" blockchain, their SpacetimeDB doesn't require "servers" but most likely a (possibly) cryptographic chain that can only be changed by authenticated nodes or central authority around the world. 

    What we're looking at here is a non-monetization use case of a blockchain-like protocol. This use case is hardly new, and hopefully it won't be the last time we see a blockchain use case that isn't filled with buzz words like "tokenomics" and "GameFi".

    All that said, BitCraft can also easily be confused with BitKraft, which is a Venture Capital for gaming that deals almost exclusively in Web3 games. The two are unaffiliated as far as I can tell at this time. 

    Hope this helps!

    Happy posting!
    ValdemarJ
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Their founder talks a great game, but his blog posts often trail off in terms of details on how they will make the magic happen.

    One thing which is obvious is they want everything to be freely tradable and they are planning on embracing the concept that RMT will not only exist but is inevitable for "reasons."

    Now they plan to design the game in a manner that the RMT won't be "too" pay to win, but once again are very short on details on how this will actually be accomplished.

    https://clockwork-labs.medium.com/free-trade-real-money-trading-1716d209784b

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • xdave78xdave78 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Wow, imagine all these "knowing commenters" would have made something out of their HUGE talent. We could have so much more "Life Councellors" and "Fortune Tellers"....our energy problems could be solved for like decades.
    Talking of tech not even knowing what it is (except that its "BAD"), but today it is enough to spell the word right.
    Kyleran
  • TerazonTerazon Member RarePosts: 407
    I think it looks like a cool game. If it isn't than it isn't but for now I am interested. 
    ValdemarJ
  • thePoetPlaysthePoetPlays Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    edited May 10
    Played three weeks of the recent closed alpha of this game. There was no NDA needed, everyone could talk openly about their experiences in the game and share and stream footage as much as they liked. Clockwork Labs is not being cagey about anything, and there is most definitely not any blockchain or NFT, or play to earn mechanics. There will be no pay to win mechanics involved in the game either.

    It was a really good time to be honest, the game encourages interaction with other players, but it is also possible (with a good and enjoyable grind) to play solo. There will be another alpha test mid June. So if you want to see for yourself, I recommend getting on their website and registering your interest to try and get in on the next test. https://bitcraftonline.com/
    Terazon
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