I've been enjoying it. Got to level 26 (the cap for today) with the necromancer, which can switch to a healing spec seamlessly for dungeons/raids. The classes play pretty well, the spell rotations are clear and interesting (albeit simple with ~6 spells). The art style is clean and the character designs are not bad. The dungeon mechanics have some thought put into them, and across the 3 dungeons I could do, the mechanics so far are pretty diverse.
It's nowhere near the production value of WoW or most other desktop MMOs. But if you compare it to other mobile online games (or simple casual MMOs), at least for me personally, it's very decent.
I would say this is the next step up from Wizards101 lol. Not a bad thing for those who are just starting out in MMOs I guess if you wanna take the Ferrari route.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
So you're saying that it doesn't tell you the upper limit?
I would say this is the next step up from Wizards101 lol. Not a bad thing for those who are just starting out in MMOs I guess if you wanna take the Ferrari route.
Aesthetically yes, otherwise not really. Wizards 101 is a far deeper game. But that needs a subscription as their f2p sucks so there is that.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
So you're saying that it doesn't tell you the upper limit?
The UI leaves a lot to be desired. It's a screen with character names in a list on the side without any visible "slots".
Tangentially related, the voiceovers and subtitles were translated by two different people. So more often than not you hear completely different sentences to what is written.
It was fun while it lasted, for me it was 40 mins before boredom, bad systems, bland gameplay pushed me back toward the better games installed on my pc.
Reached level cap (20) in an hour or so, checked out the available activities, then uninstalled. It doesn't even fun to play, the combat is just bleh and much worse than WoW somehow. Also, they dare to call it MMORPG where you can't even customize your outfit without some unlockable/cash.
It's a bigger shame when people see racism where there really is none.
"Just proves Chinese games are to be ignored. They can't create, and they can't even plagiarize correctly."
If you don't see any problems with that comment, I'm afraid to inform you... maybe... it is possible that you have a misguided perspective on China.
Just keep in mind this is not ok, alright? It hurts people.
There is a large and important difference between a country and a race, even if they're often correlated. I'm generally skeptical of games made in China, or quite a few other things made in China. That's a problem with the government of China and the regulatory environment that it promulgates, not a problem with Chinese people.
I have no such concerns about a game developed elsewhere by people of Chinese descent, even if they're first-generation immigrants to somewhere else in the world. I similarly have no such concerns about games made in the Republic of China (aka, Taiwan).
A regulatory environment where doing something that annoys dictator Xi Jinping gets the company shut down and the leaders sent to prison is not conducive to making the sort of games that I want to play. There has been a recent political scuffle about TikTok for similar reasons.
Furthermore, my skepticism about games made in China might well evaporate quickly if the government gets overthrown and replaced by a friendlier one. Or even if China ends up with a dictator who decides to transition to democracy, akin to Juan Carlos I, though that is pretty rare.
Your argument is often made by the Communist government of China to try to shut down criticism of the government as being inherently racist. It's not racist to criticize the Uighur genocide, nor the ending of democracy in Hong Kong, nor the likely creation of COVID-19 in a lab. For that matter, the first post in this very thread specifically expressed concern about Chinese regulators.
It's a bigger shame when people see racism where there really is none.
"Just proves Chinese games are to be ignored. They can't create, and they can't even plagiarize correctly."
If you don't see any problems with that comment, I'm afraid to inform you... maybe... it is possible that you have a misguided perspective on China.
Just keep in mind this is not ok, alright? It hurts people.
There is a large and important difference between a country and a race, even if they're often correlated. I'm generally skeptical of games made in China, or quite a few other things made in China. That's a problem with the government of China and the regulatory environment that it promulgates, not a problem with Chinese people.
I have no such concerns about a game developed elsewhere by people of Chinese descent, even if they're first-generation immigrants to somewhere else in the world. I similarly have no such concerns about games made in the Republic of China (aka, Taiwan).
A regulatory environment where doing something that annoys dictator Xi Jinping gets the company shut down and the leaders sent to prison is not conducive to making the sort of games that I want to play. There has been a recent political scuffle about TikTok for similar reasons.
Furthermore, my skepticism about games made in China might well evaporate quickly if the government gets overthrown and replaced by a friendlier one. Or even if China ends up with a dictator who decides to transition to democracy, akin to Juan Carlos I, though that is pretty rare.
Your argument is often made by the Communist government of China to try to shut down criticism of the government as being inherently racist. It's not racist to criticize the Uighur genocide, nor the ending of democracy in Hong Kong, nor the likely creation of COVID-19 in a lab. For that matter, the first post in this very thread specifically expressed concern about Chinese regulators.
Thank you. There is a big difference between being critical of what is produced in China vs racism against the Chinese people overall.
I'm totally opposed to Chinese nationalism and being honest not that happy with western nationalism but hey, have to support the home team but at least I can be critical about it and stay out of prison.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Guys, you are defending western* propaganda while considering yourself "being critical". I quoted an openly racist comment. Not liking government X or Y does not legitimize any racism. I really believe that you don’t consider the comment racist because, supposedly, a government forces its people to act this way. In relation to the topic we're discussing, I don’t think that’s the case. I can share good and bad games, with good and bad practices, in the US, Taiwan, China, Japan and South Korea without offending a whole people.
Recently I was reading about "orientalism" and how we are affected by propaganda. Maybe you’ll consider what I’m reading to be propaganda as well. The funny thing is that we can be "arrested" for thinking a certain way anywhere, even when our speech is legal in the country. We have several examples of this in our history. Well, I also believe you think I don’t have good sources of information hahahaha. But I’m sure we have a lot in common.
Have a great weekend, everyone.
Edit: "western" is more appropriate than "nationalist" in this context
Day 1 had lvl cap of 20, Day 2 had level cap of 26 and today day 3 has a level cap of 30. Also some region you can't explore properly untill XX days.
For example in Ancash I wanted to go around collect the totem but I cant get one because the small sub region in ancash is lock for exploration for another 3 days....truly I am not sure what the point of this is?
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
I personally can't think of any good games (or at least any I've enjoyed) that have come out of China. Same for most products unless they are made on behalf of a company located outside of China, like smart phones.
I don't think many people think China when seeking quality goods, rather inexpensive and mostly average come to mind. As mentioned the country's political and social environment is not condusive to innovation or making good games.
Nothing I've just said is racist, but they are my personal opinions on quality of Chinese made games. Perhaps one day I'll play and enjoy a well made MMO from China, but until I do....
There certainly are many bad games and products manufactured elsewhere in the world but that isn't part of this conversation.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I personally can't think of any good games (or at least any I've enjoyed) that have come out of China. Same for most products unless they are made on behalf of a company located outside of China, like smart phones.
I don't think many people think China when seeking quality goods, rather inexpensive and mostly average come to mind. As mentioned the country's political and social environment is not condusive to innovation or making good games.
Nothing I've just said is racist, but they are my personal opinions on quality of Chinese made games. Perhaps one day I'll play and enjoy a well made MMO from China, but until I do....
There certainly are many bad games and products manufactured elsewhere in the world but that isn't part of this conversation.
It's very common for racists to think they are not racist.
I personally can't think of any good games (or at least any I've enjoyed) that have come out of China. Same for most products unless they are made on behalf of a company located outside of China, like smart phones.
I don't think many people think China when seeking quality goods, rather inexpensive and mostly average come to mind. As mentioned the country's political and social environment is not condusive to innovation or making good games.
Nothing I've just said is racist, but they are my personal opinions on quality of Chinese made games. Perhaps one day I'll play and enjoy a well made MMO from China, but until I do....
There certainly are many bad games and products manufactured elsewhere in the world but that isn't part of this conversation.
It's very common for racists to think they are not racist.
It's even more common for people to not to understand what racism really is or the subtle but important difference it is from nationalism.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Guys, you are defending nationalist propaganda while considering yourself "being critical". I quoted an openly racist comment. Not liking government X or Y does not legitimize any racism. I really believe that you don’t consider the comment racist because, supposedly, a government forces its people to act this way. In relation to the topic we're discussing, I don’t think that’s the case. I can share good and bad games, with good and bad practices, in the US, Taiwan, China, Japan and South Korea without offending a whole people. Recently I was reading about "orientalism" and how we are affected by propaganda. Maybe you’ll consider what I’m reading to be propaganda as well. The funny thing is that we can be "arrested" for thinking a certain way anywhere, even when our speech is legal in the country. We have several examples of this in our history.
Well, I also believe you think I don’t have good sources of information hahahaha. But I’m sure we have a lot in common. Have a great weekend, everyone.
When debating things online, it's best to assume good faith. Most of the things that people do are with good intentions. Even most of the outright bad things that people do are with intentions that are good or at least neutral. Especially when there are several possible motives that someone may have, don't just jump to the most insidious one you can imagine and assert that it's definitely the real reason why someone said something.
You're doing the opposite of that here. You quote a post and randomly assert that it's racist. Given that there are several possible explanations (culture is another, and yet another is something to the effect of "I see a trend of things that I don't like and don't know why, so I'm just going to ignore everything in that category"), that's inappropriate. Confronted with that, you then push further and said that it's openly racist and that assertions to the contrary are apparently now nationalist propaganda or something.
Please, stop doing that. If you want to criticize someone else's comment, that's fine, but do so on substance rather than jumping straight to insulting slurs.
It's a bigger shame when people see racism where there really is none.
"Just proves Chinese games are to be ignored. They can't create, and they can't even plagiarize correctly."
If you don't see any problems with that comment, I'm afraid to inform you... maybe... it is possible that you have a misguided perspective on China.
Just keep in mind this is not ok, alright? It hurts people.
There is a large and important difference between a country and a race, even if they're often correlated. I'm generally skeptical of games made in China, or quite a few other things made in China. That's a problem with the government of China and the regulatory environment that it promulgates, not a problem with Chinese people.
I have no such concerns about a game developed elsewhere by people of Chinese descent, even if they're first-generation immigrants to somewhere else in the world. I similarly have no such concerns about games made in the Republic of China (aka, Taiwan).
A regulatory environment where doing something that annoys dictator Xi Jinping gets the company shut down and the leaders sent to prison is not conducive to making the sort of games that I want to play. There has been a recent political scuffle about TikTok for similar reasons.
Furthermore, my skepticism about games made in China might well evaporate quickly if the government gets overthrown and replaced by a friendlier one. Or even if China ends up with a dictator who decides to transition to democracy, akin to Juan Carlos I, though that is pretty rare.
Your argument is often made by the Communist government of China to try to shut down criticism of the government as being inherently racist. It's not racist to criticize the Uighur genocide, nor the ending of democracy in Hong Kong, nor the likely creation of COVID-19 in a lab. For that matter, the first post in this very thread specifically expressed concern about Chinese regulators.
Thank you. There is a big difference between being critical of what is produced in China vs racism against the Chinese people overall.
I'm totally opposed to Chinese nationalism and being honest not that happy with western nationalism but hey, have to support the home team but at least I can be critical about it and stay out of prison.
I would say it's a stretch if it was for the fact that the poster in
question PetitSoldat is referring to has been banned multiple times here across multiple accounts
for the very thing mentioned; then making new accounts, rinse repeat. Starting arguments around hot topics then scurrying away to watch the fallout, kind of like right now. Best to just leave it alone with the both of them lol.
I personally can't think of any good games (or at least any I've enjoyed) that have come out of China. Same for most products unless they are made on behalf of a company located outside of China, like smart phones.
I don't think many people think China when seeking quality goods, rather inexpensive and mostly average come to mind. As mentioned the country's political and social environment is not condusive to innovation or making good games.
Nothing I've just said is racist, but they are my personal opinions on quality of Chinese made games. Perhaps one day I'll play and enjoy a well made MMO from China, but until I do....
There certainly are many bad games and products manufactured elsewhere in the world but that isn't part of this conversation.
It's very common for racists to think they are not racist.
It's even more common for people to not to understand what racism really is or the subtle but important difference it is from nationalism.
BTW, be careful not to look in any mirrors.
Criticizing the actions and policies of the Chinese government is not racist but that is not what you did. You generalized all Chinese products as being low quality and that people have a low opinion of China, the nation as a whole, for its low quality products.
That is racist. If you cant see the difference then you are a racist.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
So you're saying that it doesn't tell you the upper limit?
No limit is specified. So far after each character created a + sign was added that if clicked on allowed me to make another.
Edit:
The maximum number of characters by default is five. I can't currently find an option to purchase more.
Even with that number it is possible to have male or female characters of all available roles as only four are needed, but as things are now though but not with complete freedom of choice.
For example, to be a male healer you must currently be a Bard as the other two options are female only. If they keep their promise this will eventually no longer be a constraint.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
So you're saying that it doesn't tell you the upper limit?
The UI leaves a lot to be desired. It's a screen with character names in a list on the side without any visible "slots".
Tangentially related, the voiceovers and subtitles were translated by two different people. So more often than not you hear completely different sentences to what is written.
That spoken frequently get cuts off by other spoken lines as well, and sometimes for no discernible reason. It is quite rough in terms of presentation.
Just finished the second day and the pacing is a bit off.
The cap was 26 yesterday, 30 today. The XP is heavily weighted on the quests, especially the main quest. This means in ~30 minutes you finish the 3 main story steps and 1-2 open-world quests (kill X things type) to get you to the new cap. Then you are left with a bunch of open-world quests that feel like a waste since the capped XP doesn't carry over.
The dungeons, raids, and PvP are similar. You can run them 2x each day to get rewards and then you are locked out and re-running anything doesn't give rewards. Not a PvP fan but that's the case there too - running a battleground the first 2 times gives something like 250 currency each, the third run gives 5. Raids and dungeons don't drop anything at all after the limit.
I don't mind time gating content like this (think it's a nice way to spread the game out and keep players equal). But the balancing means I am literally done in under 2 hours with nothing left to do. It would have been nice if you finished the core stuff in 2 hours, but then could run dungeons / raids to incrementally upgrade gear little by little.
Guys, you are defending nationalist propaganda while considering yourself "being critical". I quoted an openly racist comment. Not liking government X or Y does not legitimize any racism. I really believe that you don’t consider the comment racist because, supposedly, a government forces its people to act this way. In relation to the topic we're discussing, I don’t think that’s the case. I can share good and bad games, with good and bad practices, in the US, Taiwan, China, Japan and South Korea without offending a whole people. Recently I was reading about "orientalism" and how we are affected by propaganda. Maybe you’ll consider what I’m reading to be propaganda as well. The funny thing is that we can be "arrested" for thinking a certain way anywhere, even when our speech is legal in the country. We have several examples of this in our history.
Well, I also believe you think I don’t have good sources of information hahahaha. But I’m sure we have a lot in common. Have a great weekend, everyone.
All I'll say is, facts don't care about your feelings.
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It's nowhere near the production value of WoW or most other desktop MMOs. But if you compare it to other mobile online games (or simple casual MMOs), at least for me personally, it's very decent.
You can make several characters. I don't know what the upper limit is, but certainly there are enough slots to play at least one of each character type: Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, and Ranged DPS.
Aesthetically yes, otherwise not really. Wizards 101 is a far deeper game. But that needs a subscription as their f2p sucks so there is that.
Tangentially related, the voiceovers and subtitles were translated by two different people. So more often than not you hear completely different sentences to what is written.
"Just proves Chinese games are to be ignored. They can't create, and they can't even plagiarize correctly."
If you don't see any problems with that comment, I'm afraid to inform you... maybe... it is possible that you have a misguided perspective on China.
Just keep in mind this is not ok, alright? It hurts people.
Reached level cap (20) in an hour or so, checked out the available activities, then uninstalled. It doesn't even fun to play, the combat is just bleh and much worse than WoW somehow. Also, they dare to call it MMORPG where you can't even customize your outfit without some unlockable/cash.
I have no such concerns about a game developed elsewhere by people of Chinese descent, even if they're first-generation immigrants to somewhere else in the world. I similarly have no such concerns about games made in the Republic of China (aka, Taiwan).
A regulatory environment where doing something that annoys dictator Xi Jinping gets the company shut down and the leaders sent to prison is not conducive to making the sort of games that I want to play. There has been a recent political scuffle about TikTok for similar reasons.
Furthermore, my skepticism about games made in China might well evaporate quickly if the government gets overthrown and replaced by a friendlier one. Or even if China ends up with a dictator who decides to transition to democracy, akin to Juan Carlos I, though that is pretty rare.
Your argument is often made by the Communist government of China to try to shut down criticism of the government as being inherently racist. It's not racist to criticize the Uighur genocide, nor the ending of democracy in Hong Kong, nor the likely creation of COVID-19 in a lab. For that matter, the first post in this very thread specifically expressed concern about Chinese regulators.
I'm totally opposed to Chinese nationalism and being honest not that happy with western nationalism but hey, have to support the home team but at least I can be critical about it and stay out of prison.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Edit: "western" is more appropriate than "nationalist" in this context
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
I don't think many people think China when seeking quality goods, rather inexpensive and mostly average come to mind. As mentioned the country's political and social environment is not condusive to innovation or making good games.
Nothing I've just said is racist, but they are my personal opinions on quality of Chinese made games. Perhaps one day I'll play and enjoy a well made MMO from China, but until I do....
There certainly are many bad games and products manufactured elsewhere in the world but that isn't part of this conversation.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
It's very common for racists to think they are not racist.
BTW, be careful not to look in any mirrors.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
You're doing the opposite of that here. You quote a post and randomly assert that it's racist. Given that there are several possible explanations (culture is another, and yet another is something to the effect of "I see a trend of things that I don't like and don't know why, so I'm just going to ignore everything in that category"), that's inappropriate. Confronted with that, you then push further and said that it's openly racist and that assertions to the contrary are apparently now nationalist propaganda or something.
Please, stop doing that. If you want to criticize someone else's comment, that's fine, but do so on substance rather than jumping straight to insulting slurs.
No limit is specified. So far after each character created a + sign was added that if clicked on allowed me to make another.
Edit:
The maximum number of characters by default is five. I can't currently find an option to purchase more.
Even with that number it is possible to have male or female characters of all available roles as only four are needed, but as things are now though but not with complete freedom of choice.
For example, to be a male healer you must currently be a Bard as the other two options are female only. If they keep their promise this will eventually no longer be a constraint.
That spoken frequently get cuts off by other spoken lines as well, and sometimes for no discernible reason. It is quite rough in terms of presentation.
The cap was 26 yesterday, 30 today. The XP is heavily weighted on the quests, especially the main quest. This means in ~30 minutes you finish the 3 main story steps and 1-2 open-world quests (kill X things type) to get you to the new cap. Then you are left with a bunch of open-world quests that feel like a waste since the capped XP doesn't carry over.
The dungeons, raids, and PvP are similar. You can run them 2x each day to get rewards and then you are locked out and re-running anything doesn't give rewards. Not a PvP fan but that's the case there too - running a battleground the first 2 times gives something like 250 currency each, the third run gives 5. Raids and dungeons don't drop anything at all after the limit.
I don't mind time gating content like this (think it's a nice way to spread the game out and keep players equal). But the balancing means I am literally done in under 2 hours with nothing left to do. It would have been nice if you finished the core stuff in 2 hours, but then could run dungeons / raids to incrementally upgrade gear little by little.