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Nexon's The First Descendant Launched Yesterday To Mixed Reviews, Day One Issues | MMORPG.com

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Nexon launched its looter-shooter The First Descendant yesterday, and it's fair to say the reaction has been mixed. Couple that with launch day issues that have plagued the live service and Nexon is promising compensation for the trouble.

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  • DAOWAceDAOWAce Member UncommonPosts: 436
    edited July 3
    2 years of beta tests = day one issues.

    #ModernGaming.
    MargraveScot
  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,370
    I got really tired of seeing the message that my card didn't support DirectX 12.

    Got to run on a different computer, and the game just feels like a weak Destiny clone.



    So I uninstalled it and moved on.
  • Pher0ciousPher0cious Member RarePosts: 526
    Who's surprised? I'm not surprised.
    ('''\( ',.:.,' )/''')
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    Steam reviews are mixed, so might want to read through some of the negative reviews before diving into this one. For sure waiting for the first patch would be wise. I will say the thing I found off-putting was this:

    descendants cost 300 and 600 to buy, cash shop is fixed at 250 and 520, damn just short, what can you expect from nexon
    Valdheimgastovski1
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,812
    Incoming folks complaining about OPTIONAL paid features for a FREE GAME that no one forces you to install.
    Remember folks you have the OPTION to pay extra 60 cents to Super Size it!
    peewee78368ZenJellyKidRisksschrupp
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  • peewee78368peewee78368 Member UncommonPosts: 55

    Angrakhan said:

    Steam reviews are mixed, so might want to read through some of the negative reviews before diving into this one. For sure waiting for the first patch would be wise. I will say the thing I found off-putting was this:



    descendants cost 300 and 600 to buy, cash shop is fixed at 250 and 520, damn just short, what can you expect from nexon



    but they can all be grinded for free soo wtf is he on about lol
    StoneRoses
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,523
    Didn't experience any issues on day one but day two the servers are crapping out. All in all same experience from testing for the most part. I have gotten disconnected a couple times here or there but nothing major. Today though been a lot of lag and then boom servers went down.

    People saying you have to buy things. You don't have to buy anything everything to include the premium skins which to be honest are nothing special can be farmed in game. Just look at spending 1000 hours to farm those premiums as it is right now.
    StoneRosesValdemarJsschrupp
  • ZenJellyZenJelly Member RarePosts: 385


    Incoming folks complaining about OPTIONAL paid features for a FREE GAME that no one forces you to install.

    Remember folks you have the OPTION to pay extra 60 cents to Super Size it!



    I love when the mobile phone generation of gaming comes in and tries to say something smart. This thought process right here, is why gaming is in the terrible shape it's in.
    MargraveKumaponBrotherMaynardValdheimGrimDogGaming
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    It's alright. Just 20x more expensive than Warframe and only 1/20th as good.
    KyleranGrimDogGaming
  • CalavryCalavry Member UncommonPosts: 130
    The entire Descendant system is a direct copy of all the "warframe" warframe's systems. Just the names have been changed and new shiny different icons created :).

    The game does not play as smoothly as warframes for me and the parkour is limited as you just get a grappling hook.

    I found the feel of the weapons and their aiming to be odd is the best way to describe it. I need more time with the game and further experience of the various types of weapons as there are quiet a few.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    It's actually more similar to Defiance/Defiance 2050, if anything. Make of that what you will.
    StoneRosesuriel_mafessgastovski1sschrupp
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,378
    k61977 said:
    Didn't experience any issues on day one but day two the servers are crapping out. All in all same experience from testing for the most part. I have gotten disconnected a couple times here or there but nothing major. Today though been a lot of lag and then boom servers went down.

    People saying you have to buy things. You don't have to buy anything everything to include the premium skins which to be honest are nothing special can be farmed in game. Just look at spending 1000 hours to farm those premiums as it is right now.

    Thanks. This is informative. I'm installing it on Xbox to check it out.
    Bring back the Naked Chicken Chalupa!
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,812
    edited July 4

    ZenJelly said:





    Incoming folks complaining about OPTIONAL paid features for a FREE GAME that no one forces you to install.


    Remember folks you have the OPTION to pay extra 60 cents to Super Size it!






    I love when the mobile phone generation of gaming comes in and tries to say something smart. This thought process right here, is why gaming is in the terrible shape it's in.


    Here we go with the OVER GENERALIZATION

    We have the OPTION to INSTALL THE GAME or NOT
    We have the OPTION to PAY to Support the Game or NOT
    If you feel like you're a victim and like playing the victim card, that's on you. no one forced you to do it. You're an adult learn to take responsibility for you own decision making.

    If this game was B2P with a Subscription you'd still be bitching about it and coming up with how to categorize these groups.

    So, do you have a hard time knowing that there are folks who are willing to pay despite how you feel?

    The market is saturated with many games for each of us to find and enjoy. Unfortunately, we can at least agree that it has become a revolving door. Shit in shit out!
    ACommonMuggersschrupp
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  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,812

    Aeander said:

    It's actually more similar to Defiance/Defiance 2050, if anything. Make of that what you will.



    OMG, I totally forgot about this game! Nice take on it!
    MMORPGs aren't easy, You're just too PRO!
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,378
    So, it isn't for me. But it seems like a pretty decent game.

    The dialog and story are kinda cringe and edgy for my tastes, but the art is quality and the sound is good.

    The controls and shooting are decent. It's very involved sometimes, with grappling parkour, knocking parts off boss types. It doesn't feel like Defiance or Destiny to me at all.

    I didn't make it through the boss fight though. I'm not really looking for something where I grapple, parkour, shoot, and use magic skills. My reflexes have degraded too far to keep up. If I could have kept up, then I'd still play it off and on.

    At no point yet did I see a cash shop, which I like. I'm sure it will appear once the tutorial ends, but at least it wasn't shoved down my throat first thing.
    sschrupp
    Bring back the Naked Chicken Chalupa!
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522
    Incoming folks complaining about OPTIONAL paid features for a FREE GAME that no one forces you to install.
    Remember folks you have the OPTION to pay extra 60 cents to Super Size it!

    When does that not happen?
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,522
    Aeander said:
    It's actually more similar to Defiance/Defiance 2050, if anything. Make of that what you will.

    I enjoyed Defiance, for the bit of time I got to play it anyway.
    Ginaz
  • lordsmoklordsmok Member UncommonPosts: 75
    I would say in this day and age this lunch was pretty good
    ValdemarJ
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975

    Angrakhan said:

    Steam reviews are mixed, so might want to read through some of the negative reviews before diving into this one. For sure waiting for the first patch would be wise. I will say the thing I found off-putting was this:



    descendants cost 300 and 600 to buy, cash shop is fixed at 250 and 520, damn just short, what can you expect from nexon



    but they can all be grinded for free soo wtf is he on about lol
    The fact that the monetization is predatory....but if you don't see it,  I'm not bothering to explain why.
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Not too bad, but far from impressive. Especially if you're coming to it from Warframe or similar games. TFD is straight up Warframe systems and mechanics + Destiny visuals and guns. 

    But that's also part of its problem. I get the aim to emulate the successful games and their features, but if that's all you do, what exactly are you offering? I see a bland uninspired game with no identity or character of its own. It still plays ok, but if you want  Warframe mechanics, just go play Warframe. It does these things much better.

    I ran into some pretty annoying bugs, especially with a dungeon boss who became permanently immune to any damage. They use this simplistic boss mechanic where a boss becomes immune and spawns 3 orbs that you have to destroy to be able to deal damage to the boss - you do that 3 times, the boss dies, that's it. Only this time at the end of an annoying 20m dungeon the orbs were completely invisible and untargetable, so 20m completely wasted. Same annoying thing sometimes happens in the open world, when the game spawns invisible game objectives - you only see a mission icon, but no actual object.

    But the main issue I see with TFD is that the devs have tried to bite more than they can chew. Instead of starting with a small, well-polished core (the way Warframe started 11 years ago), they start big and spread themselves too thin. Then you end up with bugs, missing stuff, unfinished features, and a game that just feels lacking. Korean games are usually technically extremely well made, so I was very surprised by the relatively weak animations in this game - compared to Warframe, the player movements just feel odd and wooden at times. And for some reason, many of the assets look very cheap, as though they are placeholders - for example the mods. Honestly, I often had an impression this is a more polished beta test instead of a full launch...

    I'll probably give it a few more tries, it's not a bad game per se, but with all its lifting of other games' features it just leads to the question 'well why not play those games instead?'. They generally do it better, to be honest.

    ValdheimValdemarJgastovski1
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,812

    Kyleran said:





    Angrakhan said:


    Steam reviews are mixed, so might want to read through some of the negative reviews before diving into this one. For sure waiting for the first patch would be wise. I will say the thing I found off-putting was this:





    descendants cost 300 and 600 to buy, cash shop is fixed at 250 and 520, damn just short, what can you expect from nexon






    but they can all be grinded for free soo wtf is he on about lol


    The fact that the monetization is predatory....but if you don't see it,  I'm not bothering to explain why.


    100% Disagree!
    I get it folks want to hate NEXON and these types of Corps and business practices. There are more than one type of consumer, not just one.

    How is it Predatory? What exactly is being disguised here?

    You can already purchase level boost in games like WOW, GW2, SWTOR.
    sschrupp
    MMORPGs aren't easy, You're just too PRO!
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    edited July 4




    Kyleran said:









    Angrakhan said:



    Steam reviews are mixed, so might want to read through some of the negative reviews before diving into this one. For sure waiting for the first patch would be wise. I will say the thing I found off-putting was this:







    descendants cost 300 and 600 to buy, cash shop is fixed at 250 and 520, damn just short, what can you expect from nexon









    but they can all be grinded for free soo wtf is he on about lol




    The fact that the monetization is predatory....but if you don't see it,  I'm not bothering to explain why.




    100% Disagree!

    I get it folks want to hate NEXON and these types of Corps and business practices. There are more than one type of consumer, not just one.



    How is it Predatory? What exactly is being disguised here?



    You can already purchase level boost in games like WOW, GW2, SWTOR.



    It's predatory in that you cannot buy exactly enough currency to purchase the character. Characters cost 300 and 600 but you can only buy in increments of 250 or 520 (which I assume is some %bonus for buying 500 vs 250). That means if you want a 300 character you have to buy a minimum of 500 (although you'd just buy the 520) and get stuck with 200 in change that you can't use. Nexon pockets that because you already handed over the cash and it's a non-refundable transaction. That's how it's predatory. They're forcing you into giving them a tip basically.
    Kyleransschrupp
  • StoneRosesStoneRoses Member RarePosts: 1,812
    But you have the OPTION to STOP?
    You calculate the cost based on what you have or willing to pay.
    How is this any fucking different than when you to fucking grocery store?
    You typically have a financial budget.
    No one is forcing you!
    Aeandergastovski1Kyleran
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  • Mr.GutsyMr.Gutsy Member UncommonPosts: 93


    But you have the OPTION to STOP?

    You calculate the cost based on what you have or willing to pay.

    How is this any fucking different than when you to fucking grocery store?

    You typically have a financial budget.

    No one is forcing you!



    Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
    uriel_mafessGrimDogGamingRyukanKyleran
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    Mr.Gutsy said:


    But you have the OPTION to STOP?

    You calculate the cost based on what you have or willing to pay.

    How is this any fucking different than when you to fucking grocery store?

    You typically have a financial budget.

    No one is forcing you!



    Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
     It's okay because he has the OPTION to STOP embarassing himself, but chooses not to.
    uriel_mafesspanwyrGrimDogGamingRyukanKyleran
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