This is the 1st expansion I have not played at release, I had tons of fun with Season of Discovery until phase 3 got prolonged and most people I played with lost interest. For some reason WoW just seems to have lost it magic for me unfortunately.
What Blizzard has finally figured out is who their playerbase actually is and the answer is, its very diverse. So they made content that allows anyone to experience it and enjoy it from the solo player to the uber hardcore raider who wants to do mythic+. This is the most I have enjoyed an expansion since probably Pandaria or Wrath. I will probably never go beyond LFR grouping and maybe some heroics and I am fine with that. Others are ready for mythics and I am cool with that. Its all about player choice and thats really good.
This is the 1st expansion I have not played at release, I had tons of fun with Season of Discovery until phase 3 got prolonged and most people I played with lost interest. For some reason WoW just seems to have lost it magic for me unfortunately.
We saw this in Everquest and it was inevitable in WoW also: as games keep adding expansions they usually get worse.....They go away from what made them great, often deviating from the lore and the multiplayer experiences we all knew in the games early stages....With mobile gaming exploding with the younger generations it will be interesting to see where WoW is at in another 5 years.
So does this mean that all pre-Dragonflight content is now officially deprecated? That wouldn't be much of a change from the previous form of unofficially deprecated where it wasn't really being maintained, and you had to slog through it to level up, but it was tuned to be completely trivial and boring so that you wouldn't get stuck and be unable to progress.
What's the difficulty like for the new NPC grouping content? Is it scaled such that you'll win handily even if you do nothing because the NPCs will carry you? That sounds like it would be tremendously useful to botters. Or is it scaled to actually be interesting, unlike basically all of the non-endgame content of the last several years?
Dragonflight is still be run by a lot of players, especially returners who never got to complete it. By the end of this expansion, it will probably be farmed for transmogs, gear, pets, mounts, etc... just like every other expansion. Running old content is actually one of my fav things to do.
The only thing NPC's really do in the expansion, outside of a few story quests that are pretty cool, is follower dungeons. You have an NPC in delves but there are (I think) 13 levels of difficulty. The NPC does not carry you at all. If you ever did rifts in Diablo 3, its a lot like that. Follower dungeons are really for you to see the story or complete those dungeon quests. The gear they reward is not high level at all but its nice to be able to complete a quest log full of dungeon quests and also a chance to see and learn the dungeon as well.
This is the 1st expansion I have not played at release, I had tons of fun with Season of Discovery until phase 3 got prolonged and most people I played with lost interest. For some reason WoW just seems to have lost it magic for me unfortunately.
We saw this in Everquest and it was inevitable in WoW also: as games keep adding expansions they usually get worse.....They go away from what made them great, often deviating from the lore and the multiplayer experiences we all knew in the games early stages....With mobile gaming exploding with the younger generations it will be interesting to see where WoW is at in another 5 years.
In the last few years i've played more EQ than wow either on Qwarm or Project 99. I am suprised that Evercraft Online has not been included in the Indy section. Played in a Beta a few months ago and it was a blast. I can see its Minecraft like graphics drawing the younger generation into EQ.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
So there is a tutorial that goes 1-10. Its fun to do once and after that I think you can opt out. Once you finish it or create a new character after that at level 10, you get transported to your faction capital where you meet Chromie. From there you can pick the expansion of your choice to level through until 60 and then 60-70 in DF. The game recommends Dragonflight but I think you can choose any. I have only chosen Dragonflight on my alts as it does have some buffs and stuff to make leveling easier. It also has the follower dungeons and the content does allow quite a bit to be soloable. No delves though until TWW.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
Old characters to can level up to 60 in any expansion.
At level 60 you go to Dragonflight but you won't be there long.
At level 70 you go to War Within.
For people that haven't played in a long time it's probably better to buy a new account and start over.
You level up to 10 in a starter zone then go to Dragonflight until level 60.
It's a much more directed leveling experience and you don't get a hundred things thrown at you at once.
Follower dungeons are just Normal dungeons with NPCs. They are extremely easy and you have an option to make the NPCs follow you or to auto run the dungeon and you follow them.
Delves are solo but can be fine with groups, you have a Hunter NPC helping you. There are gimmicks to each Delve, like finding candles to keep a buff going or you constantly lose health or you're underwater and you have to go from air pocket to air pocket to not drown (or be a Warlock).
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
So there is a tutorial that goes 1-10. Its fun to do once and after that I think you can opt out. Once you finish it or create a new character after that at level 10, you get transported to your faction capital where you meet Chromie. From there you can pick the expansion of your choice to level through until 60 and then 60-70 in DF. The game recommends Dragonflight but I think you can choose any. I have only chosen Dragonflight on my alts as it does have some buffs and stuff to make leveling easier. It also has the follower dungeons and the content does allow quite a bit to be soloable. No delves though until TWW.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
Old characters to can level up to 60 in any expansion.
At level 60 you go to Dragonflight but you won't be there long.
At level 70 you go to War Within.
For people that haven't played in a long time it's probably better to buy a new account and start over.
You level up to 10 in a starter zone then go to Dragonflight until level 60.
It's a much more directed leveling experience and you don't get a hundred things thrown at you at once.
Follower dungeons are just Normal dungeons with NPCs. They are extremely easy and you have an option to make the NPCs follow you or to auto run the dungeon and you follow them.
Delves are solo but can be fine with groups, you have a Hunter NPC helping you. There are gimmicks to each Delve, like finding candles to keep a buff going or you constantly lose health or you're underwater and you have to go from air pocket to air pocket to not drown (or be a Warlock).
Here is the thing he never groups. I think he has only grouped with me and my son.
He has not played for so long he will know zilch about playing the level 40. So I think he might want to start again but he does not want to play vanilla or Burning Crusade. I think he said he wants a new experience. He can just subscribe with the old account , why would he choose to spend money buying a new account.
He can just use the old account so the 1-10 where will that experience be if he chooses to subscribe does he get all the expansions including Dragonflight?
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
So there is a tutorial that goes 1-10. Its fun to do once and after that I think you can opt out. Once you finish it or create a new character after that at level 10, you get transported to your faction capital where you meet Chromie. From there you can pick the expansion of your choice to level through until 60 and then 60-70 in DF. The game recommends Dragonflight but I think you can choose any. I have only chosen Dragonflight on my alts as it does have some buffs and stuff to make leveling easier. It also has the follower dungeons and the content does allow quite a bit to be soloable. No delves though until TWW.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
Old characters to can level up to 60 in any expansion.
At level 60 you go to Dragonflight but you won't be there long.
At level 70 you go to War Within.
For people that haven't played in a long time it's probably better to buy a new account and start over.
You level up to 10 in a starter zone then go to Dragonflight until level 60.
It's a much more directed leveling experience and you don't get a hundred things thrown at you at once.
Follower dungeons are just Normal dungeons with NPCs. They are extremely easy and you have an option to make the NPCs follow you or to auto run the dungeon and you follow them.
Delves are solo but can be fine with groups, you have a Hunter NPC helping you. There are gimmicks to each Delve, like finding candles to keep a buff going or you constantly lose health or you're underwater and you have to go from air pocket to air pocket to not drown (or be a Warlock).
Here is the thing he never groups. I think he has only grouped with me and my son.
He has not played for so long he will know zilch about playing the level 40. So I think he might want to start again but he does not want to play vanilla or Burning Crusade. I think he said he wants a new experience. He can just subscribe with the old account , why would he choose to spend money buying a new account.
He can just use the old account so the 1-10 where will that experience be if he chooses to subscribe does he get all the expansions including Dragonflight?
I explained why buying a different account is better. Returning to an old account is usually not a good experience for people that have been away for many years.
If you buy Dragonflight you will have every expansion before Dragonflight. If you buy War Within I dont think you get Dragonflight. Not 100% sure.
No need to buy Dragonflight it comes with the sub. Wonderful thanks all.
This is how Everquest 2 does it too. You just need to get a sub and you get all the previous expansions except the newest one.
Let him get to War Within and then decide if he wants to buy it.
He has like two characters on one server. He can start over on another server and it will be a lot cheaper than buying the game. For all I know he may leave within a month so better to just play and see how far he gets.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
So there is a tutorial that goes 1-10. Its fun to do once and after that I think you can opt out. Once you finish it or create a new character after that at level 10, you get transported to your faction capital where you meet Chromie. From there you can pick the expansion of your choice to level through until 60 and then 60-70 in DF. The game recommends Dragonflight but I think you can choose any. I have only chosen Dragonflight on my alts as it does have some buffs and stuff to make leveling easier. It also has the follower dungeons and the content does allow quite a bit to be soloable. No delves though until TWW.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
Old characters to can level up to 60 in any expansion.
At level 60 you go to Dragonflight but you won't be there long.
At level 70 you go to War Within.
For people that haven't played in a long time it's probably better to buy a new account and start over.
You level up to 10 in a starter zone then go to Dragonflight until level 60.
It's a much more directed leveling experience and you don't get a hundred things thrown at you at once.
Follower dungeons are just Normal dungeons with NPCs. They are extremely easy and you have an option to make the NPCs follow you or to auto run the dungeon and you follow them.
Delves are solo but can be fine with groups, you have a Hunter NPC helping you. There are gimmicks to each Delve, like finding candles to keep a buff going or you constantly lose health or you're underwater and you have to go from air pocket to air pocket to not drown (or be a Warlock).
Here is the thing he never groups. I think he has only grouped with me and my son.
He has not played for so long he will know zilch about playing the level 40. So I think he might want to start again but he does not want to play vanilla or Burning Crusade. I think he said he wants a new experience. He can just subscribe with the old account , why would he choose to spend money buying a new account.
He can just use the old account so the 1-10 where will that experience be if he chooses to subscribe does he get all the expansions including Dragonflight?
I explained why buying a different account is better. Returning to an old account is usually not a good experience for people that have been away for many years.
If you buy Dragonflight you will have every expansion before Dragonflight. If you buy War Within I dont think you get Dragonflight. Not 100% sure.
Really doesn't have anything to do with an existing account, and zero need to buy a new one.
I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that you simply mean picking up an old character and trying to relearn at max level after not having played in years is what can lead to a bad experience.
The easier way to solve that, is just roll a new character, or roll out on a new server. Start it all from scratch.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
So there is a tutorial that goes 1-10. Its fun to do once and after that I think you can opt out. Once you finish it or create a new character after that at level 10, you get transported to your faction capital where you meet Chromie. From there you can pick the expansion of your choice to level through until 60 and then 60-70 in DF. The game recommends Dragonflight but I think you can choose any. I have only chosen Dragonflight on my alts as it does have some buffs and stuff to make leveling easier. It also has the follower dungeons and the content does allow quite a bit to be soloable. No delves though until TWW.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
My husband is interested in playing. He has a very old account and no level 60's I think his highest was level 40.
So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
Old characters to can level up to 60 in any expansion.
At level 60 you go to Dragonflight but you won't be there long.
At level 70 you go to War Within.
For people that haven't played in a long time it's probably better to buy a new account and start over.
You level up to 10 in a starter zone then go to Dragonflight until level 60.
It's a much more directed leveling experience and you don't get a hundred things thrown at you at once.
Follower dungeons are just Normal dungeons with NPCs. They are extremely easy and you have an option to make the NPCs follow you or to auto run the dungeon and you follow them.
Delves are solo but can be fine with groups, you have a Hunter NPC helping you. There are gimmicks to each Delve, like finding candles to keep a buff going or you constantly lose health or you're underwater and you have to go from air pocket to air pocket to not drown (or be a Warlock).
Here is the thing he never groups. I think he has only grouped with me and my son.
He has not played for so long he will know zilch about playing the level 40. So I think he might want to start again but he does not want to play vanilla or Burning Crusade. I think he said he wants a new experience. He can just subscribe with the old account , why would he choose to spend money buying a new account.
He can just use the old account so the 1-10 where will that experience be if he chooses to subscribe does he get all the expansions including Dragonflight?
I explained why buying a different account is better. Returning to an old account is usually not a good experience for people that have been away for many years.
If you buy Dragonflight you will have every expansion before Dragonflight. If you buy War Within I dont think you get Dragonflight. Not 100% sure.
Really doesn't have anything to do with an existing account, and zero need to buy a new one.
I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that you simply mean picking up an old character and trying to relearn at max level after not having played in years is what can lead to a bad experience.
The easier way to solve that, is just roll a new character, or roll out on a new server. Start it all from scratch.
That's not what I meant.
I gave advice based on years of observations and experience.
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We saw this in Everquest and it was inevitable in WoW also: as games keep adding expansions they usually get worse.....They go away from what made them great, often deviating from the lore and the multiplayer experiences we all knew in the games early stages....With mobile gaming exploding with the younger generations it will be interesting to see where WoW is at in another 5 years.
What's the difficulty like for the new NPC grouping content? Is it scaled such that you'll win handily even if you do nothing because the NPCs will carry you? That sounds like it would be tremendously useful to botters. Or is it scaled to actually be interesting, unlike basically all of the non-endgame content of the last several years?
The only thing NPC's really do in the expansion, outside of a few story quests that are pretty cool, is follower dungeons. You have an NPC in delves but there are (I think) 13 levels of difficulty. The NPC does not carry you at all. If you ever did rifts in Diablo 3, its a lot like that. Follower dungeons are really for you to see the story or complete those dungeon quests. The gear they reward is not high level at all but its nice to be able to complete a quest log full of dungeon quests and also a chance to see and learn the dungeon as well.
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So how does this work, the followers and solo content? He makes a new character can he make it in any expansion for level 1. He will not be buying The War Within just yet. Later when he reaches level 60.
I may be incorrect in some of this. I did complete Dragonflight when it launched and been actively playing for many months now so I am not 100% sure but this is just based on what I experienced.
EDIT: Added the 10-60 for any expansion.
He has not played for so long he will know zilch about playing the level 40. So I think he might want to start again but he does not want to play vanilla or Burning Crusade. I think he said he wants a new experience. He can just subscribe with the old account , why would he choose to spend money buying a new account.
He can just use the old account so the 1-10 where will that experience be if he chooses to subscribe does he get all the expansions including Dragonflight?
No need to buy Dragonflight it comes with the sub. Wonderful thanks all.
This is how Everquest 2 does it too. You just need to get a sub and you get all the previous expansions except the newest one.
Let him get to War Within and then decide if he wants to buy it.
He has like two characters on one server. He can start over on another server and it will be a lot cheaper than buying the game. For all I know he may leave within a month so better to just play and see how far he gets.
Really doesn't have anything to do with an existing account, and zero need to buy a new one.
I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that you simply mean picking up an old character and trying to relearn at max level after not having played in years is what can lead to a bad experience.
The easier way to solve that, is just roll a new character, or roll out on a new server. Start it all from scratch.