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How Star Citizen Is Destroying Gaming

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Wargfoot said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)
    Don't confuse hard to get with valuable. :smile:
    It's not hard to get, you find someone with it and you arrange a way of him giving it to you. B)
    Wargfoot
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 2
    Oh kek


    Cause despite all the derps with the company itself, what happened with SC is pretty light compared with what is going on gaming these past years lol


    Concord's and The Days Before's + LIVE SERVICE IS THE FUTURE + Anime Girls Gatcha + Mobile MMOs disgused as PC games... Is kinda what is destroying gaming :P 
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    MaxBacon said:
    Oh kek


    Cause despite all the derps with the company itself, what happened with SC is pretty light compared with what is going on gaming these past years lol


    Concord's and The Days Before's + LIVE SERVICE IS THE FUTURE + Anime Girls Gatcha + Mobile MMOs disgused as PC games... Is kinda what is destroying gaming :P 
    That's for sure.
    Solid point.

    Anyone who gets into SC at this point, and doesn't like it, has only themselves to blame.
    Clearly,  enough people like it.
    Slapshot1188
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    MaxBacon said:
    Oh kek


    Cause despite all the derps with the company itself, what happened with SC is pretty light compared with what is going on gaming these past years lol


    Concord's and The Days Before's + LIVE SERVICE IS THE FUTURE + Anime Girls Gatcha + Mobile MMOs disgused as PC games... Is kinda what is destroying gaming :P 
    Didn't Concord and The Day Before's buyers get refunded? As long as people don't actually lose money, it won't have that much impact for gaming.

    Star Citizen has potentially huge impact on gaming for the few people who spend thousands on virtual ships. It also has large impact on crowdfunding because it's probably getting more crowdfunding than all other crowdfunded games combined. But even with all that, it's impact on gaming as a whole is relatively small.

    The live service and gacha are large enough phenomenon that they impact gaming as whole.
     
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited October 3
    The entrepreneurs almost always do it on the backs of government research. Without that....nada.  The whole computer industry itself is based off military research into artillery and rocket ballistics. 

    Entrepreneurs also take you to see The Titanic....

    I really don't think that's true outside of a few areas but space is certainly one of them. Governments did not bring us electricity, cars etc, but they did give us better navigation in the age of sail. In each era governments have a few areas they push forward but the baulk of research and invention comes from private individuals and organisations like universities.

    The amount government has done in each country has increased over the years and stands at around 5% to 25% depending on the country. I have to say though that increasingly a lot of that is social studies not science. Though some do see social studies as science I know.

    You mentioned the Titanic, the thing is you can't take the government option, unless you can see there being a council bus service to the Moon? It is entrepreneurs or stay Earth bound. :)
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    CIG is so bad they are not just content with destroying gaming they are also destroying CIG.

    All developers are being forced to work 7 days a week and 8+ hours a day until CitizenCon.

    The best part is that the overtime is TOIL. Or, you get promised paid time off instead of overtime pay. So, forced to work twice as many hours but only get the same pay you normally would.

    And the absolute cherry on top is that the developers wont receive their paid time off for working these insane hours until AFTER Squadron 42 is complete and ships to stores.
    Babuinix
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Babuinix
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    Xiaoki said:
    CIG is so bad they are not just content with destroying gaming they are also destroying CIG.

    All developers are being forced to work 7 days a week and 8+ hours a day until CitizenCon.

    The best part is that the overtime is TOIL. Or, you get promised paid time off instead of overtime pay. So, forced to work twice as many hours but only get the same pay you normally would.

    And the absolute cherry on top is that the developers wont receive their paid time off for working these insane hours until AFTER Squadron 42 is complete and ships to stores.
    I may or may not have heard a rumor that the developers are fed a diet of caffeine pills and Red Bull and that Chris Roberts has told the employees, "I know where your loved ones live".
    KidRisk
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 3
    Vrika said:
    Didn't Concord and The Day Before's buyers get refunded? As long as people don't actually lose money, it won't have that much impact for gaming.

    Star Citizen has potentially huge impact on gaming for the few people who spend thousands on virtual ships. It also has large impact on crowdfunding because it's probably getting more crowdfunding than all other crowdfunded games combined. But even with all that, it's impact on gaming as a whole is relatively small.

    The live service and gacha are large enough phenomenon that they impact gaming as whole.
    They did, out of the catastrophe their launches were, but that is not relevant to SC because it is a playable early access despite all things that dragged the dev over the years, so we're not gonna go here going by the "people lost their money", as if the game has somehow shutdown/failed.



    Live service and gatcha are the hugest sinks on gaming, together with low-effort games, both changing the design of games themselves into "how to monetize them best", and do the low effort takes such as grabbing UE5 make something visually shiny get the sales then leave people wondering where the f is the gameplay in the middle of all the pretty assets.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    MaxBacon said:

    They did, out of the catastrophe their launches were, but that is not relevant to SC because it is a playable early access despite all things that dragged the dev over the years, so we're not gonna go here going by the "people lost their money", as if the game has somehow shutdown/failed.



    Neither I nor any other player has spent a single second inside Squadron 42.  And many of us backed the game for the promise of Squadron 42.  So until that actually launches, I think it's still very relevant.

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,465
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)

    Alpha Star Citizen from then to forever! 

    But you knew that.

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 4
    Neither I nor any other player has spent a single second inside Squadron 42.  And many of us backed the game for the promise of Squadron 42.  So until that actually launches, I think it's still very relevant.
    This is in the context of a delayed game.

    It's not like say COE where the guy was pretending "still working on it, YOU CAN'T SUE!" drama-llama of a while back. The game kept active development despite the rollercoaster ride that akin to star citizen, had things being redone several times, which by now is something we've been used to tbh
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    Usually the term, "launch" means "no more wipes".
    If SC is "launched" then alpha/beta/launch as words no longer have meaning.
    olepi
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited October 4
    Wargfoot said:
    Usually the term, "launch" means "no more wipes".
    If SC is "launched" then alpha/beta/launch as words no longer have meaning.
    Which is why the term more often used is early access, it's launched in the sense of "you buy as is" just like you do on steam early access (you're not pre-ordering the to-be game), but in the alpha state, wipes and all oof's included.

    People just need to decide for themselves as far jumping into ea types
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)

    Alpha Star Citizen from then to forever! 

    But you knew that.
    Doesn't matter to those having fun playing it already. More updates more content more fun to be had.  B) 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Babuinix said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)

    Alpha Star Citizen from then to forever! 

    But you knew that.
    Doesn't matter to those having fun playing it already. More updates more content more fun to be had.  B) 
    Sure.  But that is a subset of the customers.

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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    MaxBacon said:
    Wargfoot said:
    Usually the term, "launch" means "no more wipes".
    If SC is "launched" then alpha/beta/launch as words no longer have meaning.
    Which is why the term more often used is early access, it's launched in the sense of "you buy as is" just like you do on steam early access (you're not pre-ordering the to-be game), but in the alpha state, wipes and all oof's included.

    People just need to decide for themselves as far jumping into ea types
    I think if people are buying it and enjoying it, that is fine.
    In fact, having recently supported an EA title myself, I get the draw there.

    However, I'm going to have to be a stickler for the definition of 'launch' at least including the concepts of 'being out of alpha and beta' and 'no more wipes', or else the term launch would be meaningless.

    It is fine if we go with alpha, beta, early access, and released instead of launch, if that helps.
    SC isn't released then.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)
    No more wipes....the only real measure of a game being "launched" these days.

    Probably won't happen until after 2030.

    You heard it here 1st.

    :)
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    Babuinix said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)

    Alpha Star Citizen from then to forever! 

    But you knew that.
    Doesn't matter to those having fun playing it already. More updates more content more fun to be had.  B) 

    You can find a group of weirdos that have fun doing anything.

    It's like trying to say that people taking turns shooting each other in the balls is a legitimate sport because you think it's "fun."

    But, I'm sure Star Citizen fans enjoy being tortured at this point.
    KidRisk
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    Kyleran said:

    Probably won't happen until after 2030.
    That seems to matter less than one would guess.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Xiaoki said:
    Babuinix said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Babuinix said:
    Dibdabs said:
    I got a free starter ship when I bought a video card around 10 or 11 years ago, and I have zero hopes of this game EVER launching.  It's just a clever cash grab.
    If you don't download it and double click the .exe icon it will never launch for you. Btw that AMD ship account is  worth +$500 dollars or maybe a thousand or some.  Might want to be clever about that cash grab. B)

    By "launching" I meant in the sense of being released.
    Like you can actually play it? Been like that since 2013 or so  B)

    Alpha Star Citizen from then to forever! 

    But you knew that.
    Doesn't matter to those having fun playing it already. More updates more content more fun to be had.  B) 

    You can find a group of weirdos that have fun doing anything.

    It's like trying to say that people taking turns shooting each other in the balls is a legitimate sport because you think it's "fun."

    But, I'm sure Star Citizen fans enjoy being tortured at this point.
    Bit of a stretch but you do you :D
    Wargfoot
  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    I need surgery soon, but we don't have the money for it because my wife bought another ship in Star Citizen.

    THANKS FOR THE GIMP LEG, ROBERTS!


    MadBomber13KyleranArglebargleolepiKidRisk
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    I do like the character creator though.
    Same


  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385


    Listening to the regrets of these 'donors' you can come to the conclusion that this is destructive in so many ways.
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