Bandai Namco Online Will Be Dissolved and Merge With Parent Company After Financial Woes, Blue Proto

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• Neoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450

  November 22

  I do wonder if this is why Sony has been eye-balling up Kadokawa lately, i mean they already have market shares in Kadokawa, but i guess they want to straight-up own the media conglomerate.

  
  
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• Scot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273

  November 22

  Meanwhile everything is wonderful in the gaming industry...Scot puts his head back under the sand.

  
• Vagabondo Member UncommonPosts: 93

  November 22

  
  

  Scot said:

  
  

  Meanwhile everything is wonderful in the gaming industry...Scot puts his head back under the sand.

  
  

  
  
  I don't think the Gaming Industry as a whole is doing that badly. The MMO Industry I guess so. At least from a player perspective, we got nothing exciting to wait for. The best MMO´s have been developed at least 10 years ago. Everything new is same old same old, and even worse.
  
  I have ditched the MMO genre as a whole and have been focused on single-player games.
  
  But that is just me.

  
• Scot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273

  November 22 edited November 22

  Vagabondo said:

  I don't think the Gaming Industry as a whole is doing that badly. The MMO Industry I guess so. At least from a player perspective, we got nothing exciting to wait for. The best MMO´s have been developed at least 10 years ago. Everything new is same old same old, and even worse.
  
  I have ditched the MMO genre as a whole and have been focused on single-player games.
  
  But that is just me.

  Well add live service to MMOs and would agree up to a point. The money is still better than any other entertainment industry but increasingly dependant on mobile.
• Dattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674

  November 22 edited November 22

  Did Bandai Online ever really have success (in the west)? Feels like almost every games-as-a-service they tried ended up shuttering within 1-2 years of 'release.' Some companies are just better off making single-player games.
• ShinyFlygon Member UncommonPosts: 589

  November 22

  
  

  Vagabondo said:

  
  I have ditched the MMO genre as a whole and have been focused on single-player games.
  
  
  
  But that is just me.
  

  
  Same.
  
  The overall direction MMOs have taken is not what I had hoped for when I first played UO, EQ, DAoC, and even Asheron's Call (which I did not enjoy but appreciated the potential it represented). Greed has driven the genre into the ground, and no developer seems willing or capable of steering it back to the strategy of pleasing the player rather than trying to prey on them.
  
  Meanwhile, games like Metaphor: ReFantazio, Elden Ring, and the Yakuza series just knock it out of the park by focusing on fun more than microtransactions.
  
• Angrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750

  November 22

  I gave up on MMO's because I got a life and MMO's demand every hour of your free time to remain competitive. If you're not willing to put in the hours, someone else is. I have no ambition to compete in that race. It's not a game anymore, it's a 2nd job only one which you pay for instead of getting paid.
  
  As far as developers being greedy, I think that goes both ways. We demand AAA production values which costs a ton of money. $200 million to build a game these days easy. Then we expect them to release the game free to play. Do we really expect these developers to operate as charity organizations? That money has to come from somewhere. Back in the day when games like EQ1 and DAoC were being developed it cost a fraction of that amount to build them and yet both had a box price and a subscription. Yet we hold these games up as models of MMO excellence while we shout down anyone trying to release a game with a subscription. It truly boggles my mind the logic, or lack thereof, of the modern MMO gamer. I can think of no other group of people on this planet who are bigger cheap asses. They literally expect to pay nothing for Hollywood level production values.
  
  Oh developers are greedy! Yah they have a $200 million dollar loan to pay off. You'd want to get paid too, I promise. Interest alone on that loan is insane.

  
• Gernova Newbie CommonPosts: 8

  1:20PM

  
  

  Angrakhan said:

  
  

  I gave up on MMO's because I got a life and MMO's demand every hour of your free time to remain competitive. If you're not willing to put in the hours, someone else is. I have no ambition to compete in that race. It's not a game anymore, it's a 2nd job only one which you pay for instead of getting paid.
  
  
  
  As far as developers being greedy, I think that goes both ways. We demand AAA production values which costs a ton of money. $200 million to build a game these days easy. Then we expect them to release the game free to play. Do we really expect these developers to operate as charity organizations? That money has to come from somewhere. Back in the day when games like EQ1 and DAoC were being developed it cost a fraction of that amount to build them and yet both had a box price and a subscription. Yet we hold these games up as models of MMO excellence while we shout down anyone trying to release a game with a subscription. It truly boggles my mind the logic, or lack thereof, of the modern MMO gamer. I can think of no other group of people on this planet who are bigger cheap asses. They literally expect to pay nothing for Hollywood level production values.
  
  
  
  Oh developers are greedy! Yah they have a $200 million dollar loan to pay off. You'd want to get paid too, I promise. Interest alone on that loan is insane.

  
  

  
  
  The selling point behind MMORPGS is that they typically are open-ended. For example, if you step foot in a single player world, you know at some point that world is going to end in, 20, 30 or a 100 hours. WoW, for sake of example, by 100 hours in, you're just starting to make money with your professions for example.