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This woman will probably be put to death

DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
With all of the discussion about the Pope's comments, I figured I would post this video, be prepared to read subtitles



Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    And who said Al-Jezeera (sp?) was the Fox News of the Arabs?

    FAAAAR from it!! Talk about fair and balanced.  This woman is great!!!

  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500

    It's great to see some moderate Muslims step up to the plate but I fear for her life.

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    "We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
    Brad McQuaid
    Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
    Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    www.vanguardsoh

  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043


    Originally posted by Jorev

    It's great to see some moderate Muslims step up to the plate but I fear for her life.


    She is an Arab, not muslim.
  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500
    True, she said she didn't believe in a supernatural being. Perhaps that is why she is moderate.

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    "We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
    Brad McQuaid
    Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
    Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
    www.vanguardsoh

  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426
    This is an old clip, actually this Woman, know nothing of what she's talking about believe me, she brings stuff out of context, stuff that she has absolutely know not the meaning of.
  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453


    Originally posted by OneMuslim
    This is an old clip, actually this Woman, know nothing of what she's talking about believe me, she brings stuff out of context, stuff that she has absolutely know not the meaning of.

    Oh, ok, we'll just take your word for it then.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk

    Originally posted by OneMuslim
    This is an old clip, actually this Woman, know nothing of what she's talking about believe me, she brings stuff out of context, stuff that she has absolutely know not the meaning of.
    Oh, ok, we'll just take your word for it then.



    At least he wins the "Defend Your Race & Religion to Death" award....

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453



    At least he wins the "Defend Your Race & Religion to Death" award....


    Not to mention the "I'll make shit up as I go along with no regard for facts or reality" award.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    She really puts things into perspective, doesn't she?

     The truth of the matter is that Islam's tenets are somewhat vague and easily interpreted as jingoistic bigotry: While forgiveness is somewhat included therein, there are also passages that prescribe violence towards others conditionally; infidels are not permitted to enter Mosques and there are also passages prescribing force to be used in order to make "pagans" accept Islam.

    If you don't believe me, then find a translation for yourself and refute me.

    The problem isn't really with the religion, as the bible contains forms of intolerance as well, but a lack of secularity: Most Muslims are incapable of separating their beliefs from ANYTHING (including science and politics), so that it is impossible to conform their beliefs to an optimization that lies outside of their traditional interpretations.

    This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk


    At least he wins the "Defend Your Race & Religion to Death" award....

    Not to mention the "I'll make shit up as I go along with no regard for facts or reality" reward.


    Probably also the "Biggest market plummet ever recorded " (see sig)

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453


    Probably also the "Biggest market plummet ever recorded "

    Not to mention the "Best at riding the current trend of political correctness to push bullshit propaganda on poor western saps" award.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk


    Probably also the "Biggest market plummet ever recorded "

    Not to mention the "Best at riding the current trend of political correctness to push bullshit propaganda on poor western saps" award.


    You know you are too smart for your own good right? We were having fun and this you post this load of whatever the hell you think you know you are trying to say and BAM! I'm out of the loop.

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    Now you see, if you just went with the flow, everything would be ooookaaaay. Ssssh, just go with the flow, find your chi, become one with the hijack...

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    Now you see, if you just went with the flow, everything would be ooookaaaay. Ssssh, just go with the flow, find your chi, become one with the McDonalds trend...

    NOBODY said hijack! Nothing to see here. Nobody is hijacking anything, except the muslims...

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    I heard that there are alot of haybail hijackings happening on the North Saskatchewan lately....

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    I heard that there are alot of haybail hijackings happening on the North Saskatchewan lately....

    I wouldn't know, I live in south Saskatchewan you ignorant liberal pig.

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    I was refering to the river....in the song....with the pirates. (sigh), nevermind.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    I was refering to the river....in the song....with the pirates. (sigh), nevermind.

    Quick poll, who knows what the double meaning for beaver is? Don't say it just a simple yes or no, and be honest. (it has to do with the song theo just mentioned)

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    I would think that its fairly common knowledge....n stuff.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426


    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    She really puts things into perspective, doesn't she?
    she has a very narrow vision, she is talking about stuff that the extremists do, and oh, not only extremists but some western countries do too.
     The truth of the matter is that Islam's tenets are somewhat vague and easily interpreted as jingoistic bigotry: While forgiveness is somewhat included therein, there are also passages that prescribe violence towards others conditionally; infidels are not permitted to enter Mosques and there are also passages prescribing force to be used in order to make "pagans" accept Islam.
    Again, you totally misinterpet, or received a minsinterpretation of the Qur'an, the thing is that those Pagans were more violent towards the muslims then the so called islamic-extremists towards others, these passages as you call them forces the muslims to fight back and take what's rightfully theirs, and say that if the pagans don't stop then muslims should keep on fighting, but if those pagans stop, then muslims should stop also.
    And believe it or not, there is no vagueness in the Qur'an, of course there are things you can't understand alone, that's why you go to people with knowledge, and these people surely must not be the likes of bin ladin.
    If you don't believe me, then find a translation for yourself and refute me.
    i did above :}
    The problem isn't really with the religion, as the bible contains forms of intolerance as well, but a lack of secularity: Most Muslims are incapable of separating their beliefs from ANYTHING (including science and politics), so that it is impossible to conform their beliefs to an optimization that lies outside of their traditional interpretations.
    It is sad to say that in most Islamic countries, tradition is put part into Islamic rules, which totally contradicts with the Islamic rules, in Saudia arabia they say that the Neqab ( face cover ) is an obligation and is mentioned in the Qur'an, they also say that women can't drive because Allah said so, of course these are blunt lies, you can't find anything in the Qur'an that says that, it's their own country rules put with islamic rules, which confuses the outsider when he comes and looks.


  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by Theodoryk
    I would think that its fairly common knowledge....n stuff.

    You would be suprised...

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  • paranoidpvpparanoidpvp Member Posts: 539


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    She really puts things into perspective, doesn't she?
    she has a very narrow vision, she is talking about stuff that the extremists do, and oh, not only extremists but some western countries do too.
     The truth of the matter is that Islam's tenets are somewhat vague and easily interpreted as jingoistic bigotry: While forgiveness is somewhat included therein, there are also passages that prescribe violence towards others conditionally; infidels are not permitted to enter Mosques and there are also passages prescribing force to be used in order to make "pagans" accept Islam.
    Again, you totally misinterpet, or received a minsinterpretation of the Qur'an, the thing is that those Pagans were more violent towards the muslims then the so called islamic-extremists towards others, these passages as you call them forces the muslims to fight back and take what's rightfully theirs, and say that if the pagans don't stop then muslims should keep on fighting, but if those pagans stop, then muslims should stop also.
    And believe it or not, there is no vagueness in the Qur'an, of course there are things you can't understand alone, that's why you go to people with knowledge, and these people surely must not be the likes of bin ladin.
    If you don't believe me, then find a translation for yourself and refute me.
    i did above :}
    The problem isn't really with the religion, as the bible contains forms of intolerance as well, but a lack of secularity: Most Muslims are incapable of separating their beliefs from ANYTHING (including science and politics), so that it is impossible to conform their beliefs to an optimization that lies outside of their traditional interpretations.
    It is sad to say that in most Islamic countries, tradition is put part into Islamic rules, which totally contradicts with the Islamic rules, in Saudia arabia they say that the Neqab ( face cover ) is an obligation and is mentioned in the Qur'an, they also say that women can't drive because Allah said so, of course these are blunt lies, you can't find anything in the Qur'an that says that, it's their own country rules put with islamic rules, which confuses the outsider when he comes and looks.


    Sold many market shares lately?

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  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453


    Sold many market shares lately?

    I don't think he understands the concept of "0 credibility".

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    As for pagans not being able to enter Mosques(all or the Sacred Mosque):

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    YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
    PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.
    SHAKIR: O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.

    As for fighting those that violate Islamic law

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    YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

    These are both taken from Chapter 9 in the Qur'an ..

    You have yet to give me an appropriate interpretation, or a valid translation from an accredited source; both of the above excerpts are from The University of Southern California.

    The problem is also that A LOT of muslims haven't yet integrated into modern society. What I don't understand, however, is the new movement within industrialized nations where young people with opportunity squander their life pursuing a jihad against people that have never wronged them or Islam.

    This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    One Muslim, you might very well be a peace loving Muslim, but you cannot deny that the very teachings of the Koran are inherently violent.

    Sura 9:5 of the “Koran,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

    In addition to what Moo posted...I'm sorry but you aren't going to convince anybody when the proof is right in your very own doctrine

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

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