Originally posted by xAPOCx Im sorry but am i to believe that P2W and SUB are considered the same thing now? I fucking hate this genre anymore. I long for the days of sub only mmos where everything in the game could be attained within the game. No F…
Originally posted by DamonVile Originally posted by Tbau Then by all means take 6 months to gain the right to get land with a patron status purchased with your long hard work only to find out there is no land to get because everyone got it by PAY…
Originally posted by kkchen
You can literally buy classes with money in Champions Online. This is gaining more and gaining something you cannot get without paying. Also upgrade catalysts allow you to upgrade faster. Try again
I'm saying your d…
Originally posted by DamonVile Originally posted by Tbau Originally posted by Dihoru Couldn't you buy cash shop currency with in game gold? If so the only train wreck in here is your logic train.
ability to eventually get everything does…
Originally posted by kkchen Nobody here understands what P2W actually means.
Give me a "F2P" game that does not have an option to pay to give you things faster.
So because other games have P2W it means all F2P games can be it without being call…
Originally posted by An4thor Originally posted by Tbau ability to eventually get everything doesn't remove the P2W aspect.
You go ahead and farm out the 10,0000,000 gold you need for what I will get in the minute it takes me to pay for it, then…
Originally posted by An4thor Originally posted by Tbau /breathes in
/breathes out
/laughs at the comment with no substance
I can log into a number of actual F2P games that have no subscription options. Weather or not they have a cash shop…
Originally posted by Dihoru Couldn't you buy cash shop currency with in game gold? If so the only train wreck in here is your logic train.
ability to eventually get everything doesn't remove the P2W aspect.
You go ahead and farm out the 10,0000,…
Originally posted by Borluc Nothing in life is free.
/breathes in
/breathes out
/laughs at the comment with no substance
I can log into a number of actual F2P games that have no subscription options. Weather or not they have a cash shop with …
Originally posted by Reizla Originally posted by SEANMCAD Originally posted by Reizla Uhm... Trade ingots & lumber instead? I hear ppl yelling for it in faction chat all the time (doing it myself as well when I'm low on LP). Or do you want …
Originally posted by Larai The part that only Patrons can own land is necessary though.
No one here is refuting this nor does it take away from the game being what it is. P2W.
If a game decides to go F2P it has two choices. Be F2P or be P2W.
I…
Originally posted by TankYou88 Just because you like Archeage (and I love the Japanese version BTW) does not mean all definitions can be tossed aside. The game is what it is and right now, its P2W.
This is what happens when companies go F2P in…
Yet isn't it amazing how TESO got such rave reviews on this site?
A bland dull boring MMO with no innovation, and thus a copy of every other MMO, that's filled with BOTs which is as self playing as you can get!
Originally posted by kkchen I've been seeing lots of threads and posts about how this game is P2W mainly because of the LP and the CS LP Potions.
This is not pay to win.
Does having Patron (which requires paying) give you MORE? Its Pay to Win.
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Originally posted by Greymantle4
I got a beta key this weekend and will check it out. The only reason I have any interest in the game is because of crafting and housing. If there is a cap on the play style I want to do I will just uninstall and mov…
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
While I do know some people are concerned about a p2w issue in this game, I don't think its fair to discredit them until you know for sure, especially since Rift, and their other games, do not have these features.
E…
Originally posted by PAL-18
So no subscription only servers without p2w cash shops? all p2win servers with cash shop even when subbed?
Correct. You get to enjoy all the F2P player goodness even when subscribing to actually be able to play the fu…
Originally posted by FelixMajor
Bummer, I wonder how the folks at Zenimax truly feel about all this.
I hope they feel really bad.
You don't take a great IP and try to make it something it isn't. SRPG does not translate into MMORPG unless that MMO…
Originally posted by IMPYRE Originally posted by Tbau
ugh, they made Glyph mandatory...
Yup! said the same thing. Now I may put defiance back on my computer for that quick pew pew.
I see what their doing here
One of the reasons I quickly…
Originally posted by Vannor Trion ain't done it with Rift.. any stat items can all be obtained, easily and through normal gameplay, in game..
They have the benefit of the doubt until they show otherwise.
All one needs to do is look at what you …