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I want to make something clear about Classic servers.

TrubadurenTrubaduren Member Posts: 575
in SWG Veteran Refuge

Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers?

That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU.

So if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a while.

All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server.

Nah i dont think so.

Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.

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  • KzinKillerKzinKiller Member Posts: 625
    I have this sudden urge to listen to Zeppelin's Ramble On .... 


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  • BamaDocBamaDoc Member Posts: 162


    Originally posted by Trubaduren

    Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers?
    They won't.
    That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU.
    They're phasing back in pre-NGE "stuff" with each publish now. It's a lame attempt to bring folks back until the license is up.
    So if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a while.
    Never.
    All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server.
    The game is dying. There will be no classic servers and it will close down as soon as the SOE/LA license agreement expires.
    Nah i dont think so.

  • ObeeObee Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by Trubaduren
    Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers? That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU. So
    if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of
    you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a
    while. All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server. Nah i dont think so.
    If (not even a remote possibility) they ever did offer the classic
    version of SWG, it would be on seperate servers from the NGE
    ones.  The game is dying.  They are still bleeding
    subscriptions (although at a slower rate due to having less to begin
    with).



    I highly doubt SOE would ever offer classic servers based on the fact
    that they have been at war with the SWG playerbase since the CU was
    implemented.  You don't go out of your way to piss off your
    customers for a year and a half if you're interested in them continuing
    to be your customers.  SOE will write off SWG shortly after the
    'complete' box flops and ride it out until the contract is up.






  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,843
    "So if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a while.

    All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server.

    Nah i dont think so."

    First off..

    "That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU."

    They probably learned somewhat of a lesson and aren't going to just say Oh sorry NGE players... but pre-cu ftw.

    They (if they did it) would probably follow Mythics lead with DAoC and make one or two classic servers.  Then if enough people were coming to those servers bring up more.

    And...

    "All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server."

    If you still play...

    Can you honestly tell me that going anywhere on every server but say... Mos Eisley... you see enough players to rate the game as:

    not dying??

    I see more people in EQ1/2 than I do in SWG and that isn't saying a heck of a lot.  I probably saw more people in Horizons the last time I got a free trial than I see in SWG.

    But that gives you the idea eh?  Horizons is still around... so SWG is probably in no danger of shutting down soon.

    We can debate and insult each other all we want.. At some point whatever happens will happen... then it won't matter what any of us said.. unless we were right.  So until then.. whatever.

    The real question is.. Would classic servers even bring back that many people...  Or is the next expertise patch going to bring out this mythical player base... that isn't "in" game.

  • kaibigan34kaibigan34 Member Posts: 1,508
    Originally posted by Trubaduren
    Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers? That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU. So if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a while. All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server. Nah i dont think so.
    Yah I agree completely. They have never done anything like this before. The CURB was never dumped and the CU brought less then two weeks later to release with RotW. And a massive 24 hours passed after ToOW before they announced the NGE. /sarcasm

    Check your history. They have done it before. While I dont believe they will do classic servers it wouldnt surprise me if they did. Its how they have operated in the past.

    Kai


  • jrscottjrscott Member Posts: 1,252
    Originally posted by Trubaduren
    Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers? That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU.
    There once was this thing called the CURB.  A lot of developers at SOE spent a lot of time working on it.  Unbeknownst to them, an insidious creature called the NGE was being worked on.  The CURB only saw life on restricted test servers, though it was highly touted by all who witnessed it.  Instead we got the CU and its level-centric design which would enable the full NGE implementation.  The switch from Pre-CU to CURB never happened despite a lot of effort and the CU was thrown into place very suddenly instead (to enable the more drastic NGE which was 6 months from completion or so they thought).

    So I ask you, given the history of SOE in throwing away progress, i.e. Raph Koster's original design, CURB, and the CU, how can you possibly think logic and SOE have any relationship to one another?  They don't!  They are complete strangers to one another.  Wherever the Ouija board points is where Smedley and Gang take SWG.  Please stop giving them credit for either caring, or thinking in advance.  They don't know how to do either.


    I realize I said I quit. I never said it was forever :)

  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961


    So I ask you, given the history of SOE in throwing away progress, i.e. Raph Koster's original design, CURB, and the CU, how can you possibly think logic and SOE have any relationship to one another?  They don't!  They are complete strangers to one another.  Wherever the Ouija board points is where Smedley and Gang take SWG.  Please stop giving them credit for either caring, or thinking in advance.  They don't know how to do either.
    http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/10/27/wysiwyg-loot/#comments

    Raph said on


    October 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pm:

    ....

    I’ve never heard the term
    “bio-linking.” I assume you mean WYSIWYG loot (which is also an ersatz
    term that Ryan coined). But maybe you mean soulbinding.




  • CerethCereth Member Posts: 23

    Does anyone actually know when the license runs out so this dying dog can be put out of its misery?

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    What exactly are you trying to "make clear" here? This has been said up here over 100 times.


    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143


    Originally posted by BamaDoc



    Originally posted by Trubaduren

    Why in hell would SOE make a "The complete star wars crap expansions bla bla bla" and then turn into classic servers?
    They won't.
    That would be a total waste since they are sold in"NGE" and then suddenly change to Pre-CU.
    They're phasing back in pre-NGE "stuff" with each publish now. It's a lame attempt to bring folks back until the license is up.
    So if there even now are going to be classic servers (which everyone of you still lingers on with in the back of your mind) It will be quite a while.
    Never.
    All this crap about classic servers or the game is dieing in a last effort to bring back players they make a classic server.
    The game is dying. There will be no classic servers and it will close down as soon as the SOE/LA license agreement expires.
    Nah i dont think so.


    Guys Im sorry, but this is almost dead on right here.

    I hate it, I miss it but this is just the fact of the matter.

    They will count this game as a loss, there is no money to allow for classic servers.

    It is a 6 year old engine right now as we speak.

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    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • Wildcat84Wildcat84 Member Posts: 2,304
    it is classic servers or else SOE loses money until their license is up.





  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210
    I think if there were going to be classic servers they would have done it by now.  I think the fact that we haven't seen them clearly means they aren't coming


    There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

  • DodeceDodece Member Posts: 76

    I just have to point out something about SOE. The way they program is very much like a strand of DNA. Nothing is actually destroyed new things are added, and old things are merely turned off. All the Pre Cu code is still there, and they ship the product with the old Pre Cu code intact. Atleast its a relative certainty. We cannot be certain till it ships, but its a safe bet all of Pre Cu will be on those disks.

    That being the case a reversion is ridiculously easy they just send you a file to delete all the later additions to the code, and if you like you can even go and manually remove the pubs yourself if you so like. Early on in SWG players had to do this a few times when the devs released a late patch that busted something severely. Anyone remember the infamous we all play on test center night?

    Converting the expansions is not hard either. Creature stats were often changed in the weeks leading up to the NGE. I saw it myself on numerous occassions. Creatures shifting levels, and sometimes even resists. I was a MCH so yeah I know my critters pretty well. Especially since I was on a tame athon to get all the skills. Item changeing is not all that hard either. Not that the SWG dev team does a good job of it, but every quest reward could have a codeing change in under a week.

    This is a invalid argument it can be done in quick order, and even if SOE for some reason did not include any of the Pre Cu code in the complete disks. They could accomplish it with a download.

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