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Hi all,
This is my personal opnion but pelase feel free to add. I Kind of think mmorpg monthly costs are getting WAYYY too far beyond general prices,I mean look at coh and lineage2. they were just released with a monthly cost of 14.95. I believe that well established mmorpgs should be a good price,If they are dishing out new additions like every month or coming out with new ideas. I just believe that if you're going to pay that much per month,there should be at least something new in the world each month that you pay.
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We have this same discussion every frickin' day... In fact, there is another thread on the front page of this forum with this topic.
If you don't like it don't pay it. $15 a month is a small price to pay for the amount of playtime you get.
I think most would say its capitalism, and its pretty true, if people will pay it, they'll charge it.
Overall, prices havent gone up, in fact, they've probably gone down, but its a whole thing of getting more money. Sad thing is, you pay more for games now, which usually dont have the same depth as games 5 years ago did.
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you pay per month to watch HBO right? same thing
3 stars sucks i want my 5 stars back!
MUAHAHAHAHAHA
just look at it this way... say u keep the $15, and dont pay for a month of Lineage 2 or CoH... now go out and see how much fun u can have for that $15 and then come home and tell me if that 1 night at the movies or 15 minutes at the arcade for 3 game rentals is better then a month of endless MMOG'ing...
now.. is $15 really that bad...
lol its 50 cents a day CMON lol... lets see how much more fun u can have for 50 cents a day... u cant even buy a chocolate bar for 50 cents a day >=P
their giving u free expansions 2 times a year, GMs on at all times, virtually lag-free gameplay with thousands of others online, and an all around fun experience... all those things cost money for them... why cant u just dish up 50 cents a day without complaining...
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It is also $165 (first thirty days included) a year plus the original cost of $50 equals $215 a year. Expansions are seldom free for the bigger mmorpgs (AO and a few others excludeD) but games like CoH, DAoC, and EQ will charge. Thus, for one video game you play all year costs more than a video game system for your console. Also, incur graphic cards to run the game (150+ At the VERY Least). So in the end playing a next gen MMORPG for a year and buying two expansions (every six months) will cost you:
$164.45 + $49.95 + $39.95*2 + $150 = $444.3
Almost half a grand. Credit Card rates and taxes not included. X.x This is a lot of money to play one game. We haven't even gotten into electricity you pay for or the broad band connection you will probably want. ($40+ more a month)
Note: All of this is in USD. It will cost significantly more in other countries depending on currency exchange.
BTW: I did a conversion to the Philippine peso because in Asia it seemed to be the largest conversion.
However, for a person in the Phillipines to play the title in question it would cost them:
24,903.01 Peso a year.
The average Phillipino income a year held by the last census is: P123,168 . Or about 20% of their total income a year! X.X WTF?
I am thinking about titles which are suppose to be international. Or do most MMORPG companies just want to milk the United States?
Your being close minded. Are they targeting middle income people in American only? When you sell expensive cars you know a certain number of the population can't afford it. However, if they took the time to tweak and try to give the consumers the best avaialable then why is $50 a standard for all new releases? Why are the new rpg's charging $15 a month? They could probably swing it to ten dollars a month. They can't though because this would force the competitor to lower it too and thus everyone would lose money, but except consumers of course.
Obiyer you right , cost for mmo gaming depends of Country and averange income /year , plus internet charge and UE tax included in monthly fee. But what is more costly? , a standard brand new console game ( 50 usd) with few weeks lifespan or good mmo ? . Besides you can always e-bay your account and earn even more than you spend
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umm....where u like falling asleep? i have played MMO's since well THE FIRST 1!!! Take UO (Ulitima Online) hrm did there monthly fees go up? hrm..... lets think of other games hrmm....ok i rest my point. YES! prices have gone up and it sucks @$$!!!i do agree very much with ur comment about "depth". MMO's today just don't have the content that they use to. that is not good it's all about graphics and other dumb $!%#. Don't get me wrong i love nice graphics and stuff but u need content to be a great game.
PS: STOP POSTING THE SAME $!%@!!
Blah blah blah......
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Back to the subject, No i think with the way the market is booming and inflation of course, the trend at $12.99+ is feasable considering what other expenses you may occur on a monthly basis at that price.
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I think there's a couple things we have to think about with monthly fees going up.
Firstly, it may not seem like alot, but that 15 bucks a month has a lot of potential. If you put a dollar a day into a no load mutual fund, in (I think it's about) 20 years, you'll have over a million dollars. That's right. A dollar a day can become a million dollars if invested. My brother who's a smoker spends probably around 4x that much just buying cigarettes. But who wants to think about investing, so lets move on.
I think the greater issue is that the cost of MMOs are Rising for the most part. When EQ1 came out 5 years ago, they (all 3 of them, lol) were all 10 bucks a month or under iirc. Then sony ate verant's heart and they increased the fee to 13 bucks a month. Now the majority of mmo's at that time decided they were going to be 13 bucks a month too. SWG came out at 15 bucks a month and people were shocked, now it's just 1 of 3 or more mmo's that charge that much. How long before someone charges 17 a month? 20 a month? Hell there are some people that pay even more than that already for that Legends crap on EQ. Personally I think it'll plateau around 30 bucks a month maximum, just because no one wants to be paying more per month for an mmo than their internet bill. If you defend the price hikes now, when will you switch sides and say enough?
But alas, there's not much we on our little thread can do. Note also that I'm not trying to start flames or controversy by any of my above comments, I'm just trying to give some food for thought.
Now that stuff being said, thankfully the ex-blizzard guys over making the Guild Wars game have taken a step in an interesting direction. For those of you who haven't heard yet, Guild Wars will supposedly have NO monthly fee. That's right, no monthly fee. Go check it out.
The end.
I mean it.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
So, you are saying, if I put $7,000 into a "no load mutual fund", in 20 years I will have a million dollars? I think I want one of these mutual funds...
$365 x 20 = $7300.
That is a hell of a mutual fund. I won't even put a dollar a day in, I will put the $7300 in one big lump. Please give me some specifics so I can call my local broker.
That is a hell of a retirement account.
umm....where u like falling asleep? i have played MMO's since well THE FIRST 1!!! Take UO (Ulitima Online) hrm did there monthly fees go up? hrm..... lets think of other games hrmm....ok i rest my point. YES! prices have gone up and it sucks @$$!!!i do agree very much with ur comment about "depth". MMO's today just don't have the content that they use to. that is not good it's all about graphics and other dumb $!%#. Don't get me wrong i love nice graphics and stuff but u need content to be a great game.
PS: STOP POSTING THE SAME $!%@!!
I think you may of got confused by my comment, by price, I meant the upkeep price for games, the charge of makeing them, etc.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Did you bother doing any research before coming to post like a <nevermind>?
First of all, this thread isn't the place for financial semantics, I was trying to illustrate a point that what seems like a paltry sum really isn't that paltry if you think about it. A dollar a day can also save the life of a 3rd world child and help his village, but you don't really think about that do you?
The point is alot of people think a dollar a day or amounts like that aren't worth worrying about, yet they don't realize this when they go to the gas pumps on the days when the prices are lowest during the week, so they can save the 5 bucks or so that week on gas.
A little money has a lot of power, and shouldn't be discounted lightly.
On a side note, the money grows in a mutual fund based on interest rates compounded semi-annually or annually at rates of 10 - 25% or whatever your bank decides to give you, but I'm not an investment specialist. Go call your broker yourself and talk to him. (And as for your example, I believe the equation is (365 x 20) x (1.2 ^ 20) = approx $280,000 . That's a dollar a day for 20 years at 20% compounded annually. 280 thousand dollars is nothing to sneeze at. Getting a million dollars is a little bit different, but you get the idea. Your milage may very, because I can't speak for the american economy, which could be alot worse than the Canadian economy regarding investments.
Like I said, this isn't the place to get into a financial discussion, but while a dollar a day seems like nothing, it can eventually become quite big.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Not exactly... That is what would have been a dollar a day put in in one lump sum...
At 20% which is a fairly high yield and you still didn't get near a million bucks...
Anyway...
A dollar a day is something to one person and nothing to another... Or .65 cents to a Canadian.