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Petition for Leftie...

AlistairAlistair Member UncommonPosts: 318

I'm starting this thread as a petition against Leftie.  Staff, can you somehow give him a warning? Or limit his postings?  If not, Ban him?  He's starting to turn almost every Off-topic thread he's posting in into a political debate, when it's not even close to one when the thread is started (See: Who's your next president, Favorite Weapon).  I understand he's been here for a while, but this type of behavior just really started...and I honestly don't see the need for every topic he finds some interest in to be turned into a political debate and the see the thread locked.  It's not fair to the rest of us, especially when this type of stuff really hadn't been happening before.

In other words, it's just not cool.

Board members, if you agree with me or disagree with me, voice your opinion, or add your name to the list.

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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106
    Well. My only problem is. He doesnt seem to like to keep it civil. He likes to make a tendency of calling everyone dumbass neo-cons that are terrorists and just spew BS.

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  • RasukeRasuke Member Posts: 362



    Originally posted by Finwe
    Well. My only problem is. He doesnt seem to like to keep it civil. He likes to make a tendency of calling everyone dumbass neo-cons that are terrorists and just spew BS.

    "The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didnt exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis



    Well every mmorpg I've played has at least one person that makes fun of others... so really he just creates a natural atmosphere...  I voted nothing because of that but truthfully I don't post often enough to care lol...


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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    I wouldnt say ban him

    Just make rules that no political crap is to be mentioned in any thread.

    Other forums are doing it and I think mmorpg.com will be doing it soon too

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • NoraxeNoraxe Member Posts: 190

    I don't think it's necessary to censor anyone willing to give their opinion.  One of the best things about this forum is all of the different points of view. I would hate think there was a view that I missed out on because someone was banned.

    The moderators do a good job of deleting any post that are overly offensive, and lock threads that get out of hand.

     

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  • MalkavianMalkavian Member UncommonPosts: 2,995

    *laughter can be heard from the shadows of the forums... and then he appears...*

    Of course I have been keeping an eye on things.

    Political discussion is not something we deny our members.

    We do ask that you keep to the topic at hand however. Instances where this does not occur...
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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,408

    I voted to give him a good talking to, and take away his muffins. I don't even think he can be banned at this point, for he is like some sort of troll megazord thing, and cannot be destroyed!

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  • AlistairAlistair Member UncommonPosts: 318

    My problem with him isn't his views or his opinions, I actually agree with him on a lot of things.  My problem with him is WHEN and WHERE he expresses these views.  I know his posts can always be deleted, and threads locked...but that's the point!  Why should we have our harmless, innocent threads locked (RE: Favorite Weapon) because he has to express a view that is completely unrelated to the thread itself just to start a debate?

    I don't think he ACTUALLY has done anything to be banned, but I'm not sure exactly what power the mods have...I'd like to see him restricted, possibly by number of posts per thread per day (therefore not being able to actually debate a point, because once he gets started they're no longer valid to the topic).  However, if banning him is all the CAN do, and his behavior continues, I'd rather see him banned than left to run around free.


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  • TaskyZZTaskyZZ Member Posts: 1,476

    Just ignore him when he does it in an unrelated thread.

    No reason to ban him, just don't get into his debates in unrelated threads, and then the MODs will only need to delete his one post.

  • Sir-SvenSir-Sven Member Posts: 773

    I was ignoring him too, but he eventually "took over" 3 of my threads. He thinks he is always right.

    It's annoying.

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  • MalkavianMalkavian Member UncommonPosts: 2,995

    In future forward me these incidents incase i do overlook them.

    For now email me these 3 you mentioned for review.

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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138

    Gee... how convenient for you to leave out that I did not start the trolling on any of the mentioned threads. Others did.

    On the favorite weapons thread, en1gma took a sharp right turn from the topic and posted a huge anti-Micheal Moore graphic on the thread.

    On the gun contol thread, Sven's first post was basically all political.

    On the "Vote for President" thread, Sven made a hard right turn by posting religious anti-abortion propaganda.

    Why people are mad at me is because I'm not an "Alan Combes" progressive who can be shoved around by anyone that just yells loud at him. I stand up for my views with lots of evidence and links. THAT makes political extremists mad. THAT is why they are bellowing. They are forced to defend extremist views with logic, and they can't do it.

    And Alistar, I seem to remember you saying on a thread,

    "Leftie, Politically speaking, Shut the fuck up."

    So Alistar, PLEASE spare us the "my virgin ears are offended" posing, huh?

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  • n2soonersn2sooners Member UncommonPosts: 926
    I voted something else. I think we need an ignore feature. It is a simple fix and there would be no need to ban anyone. You just have to keep yourself on topic or eventually everyone will have you on ignore.

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  • Sir-SvenSir-Sven Member Posts: 773

    I have already had the entire thread "Who is your next President?" deleted because it just went too far. So he can't send you that one.

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  • AlistairAlistair Member UncommonPosts: 318

    Leftie, You're the only true politcal extremist on these boards.  Everyone else, for the most part, keeps their views to themselves.  When they do express them, they do so in a polite and intelligent matter.  It doesn't matter how much data you quote.  It matters that you feel the need to hammer your point into the ground and get threads that wouldn't NORMALLY cause any trouble locked by the staff.  We've had discussions like these before, and they've NEVER been this hammered...or ever gotten THIS out of hand.

    Yes, and ignore feature would be nice.  A restrict or warn feature would be nice as well.  Maybe we'll see one with the new board interface.  Until then, I believe that the staff should still keep a close eye on certain posters (such as, but not limited to, Leftie).  Ignoring him won't necessarily solve the problem, he has the same powers as us and can post anything he likes.  If he wanted to, he really could get his point across, and then ignoring him wouldn't help.

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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138


    Originally posted by Sir-Sven
    I have already had the entire thread "Who is your next President?" deleted because it just went too far. So he can't send you that one.
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    Then you shouldn't have tried to turn the thread into religious and anti-abortion propaganda. You started posting that mess on the thread.

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  • Sir-SvenSir-Sven Member Posts: 773

    The only reason I created the entire "Who is your next president?" thread was because I knew someone like leftie would come and take over the thread.

    Little did I know you don't get points for popular threads. I asked them to delete it when it got out of hand.

    In reply to leftie, I only said 1 tiny thing. I didn't "start" anything. After you posted a reply, I didn't reply to it.


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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138


    Originally posted by Alistair
    Leftie, You're the only true politcal extremist on these boards.  Everyone else, for the most part, keeps their views to themselves.  When they do express them, they do so in a polite and intelligent matter.  It doesn't matter how much data you quote.  It matters that you feel the need to hammer your point into the ground and get threads that wouldn't NORMALLY cause any trouble locked by the staff.  We've had discussions like these before, and they've NEVER been this hammered...or ever gotten THIS out of hand.
    Yes, and ignore feature would be nice.  A restrict or warn feature would be nice as well.  Maybe we'll see one with the new board interface.  Until then, I believe that the staff should still keep a close eye on certain posters (such as, but not limited to, Leftie).  Ignoring him won't necessarily solve the problem, he has the same powers as us and can post anything he likes.  If he wanted to, he really could get his point across, and then ignoring him wouldn't help.AHH! Run away from the monster! He's going to eat us!imageSocializer 80% Explorer 73% Achiever 33% Killer 13%

    "Leftie, Politically speaking, Shut the fuck up."

    That line was real polite and intelligent on your part, Alistar.

    So was being called a Communist or Stalin every 4th post by you critics.

    So was being told I was a thief because I mention I was disabled and supported better health care.

    It went on an on an on like that from you guys.

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  • AlistairAlistair Member UncommonPosts: 318

    Hmm...Quote this then.

    Leftie, Logically speaking...Shut the fuck up.  For good.  Just go away.

    And it's Alistair.  Go to hell for spelling my name wrong, cuz I'm sick of that shit from everyone, and you broke the straw on the camel's back.  Just keep going Leftie, you'll see how I can be impolite.

    These boards are worth enough to me that I can sacrifice myself to see you gone for the betterment of everyone else here.

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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138


    Originally posted by Sir-Sven
    The only reason I created the entire "Who is your next president?" thread was because I knew someone like leftie would come and take over the thread.
    Little did I know you don't get points for popular threads. I asked them to delete it when it got out of hand.
    In reply to leftie, I only said 1 tiny thing. I didn't "start" anything. After you posted a reply, I didn't reply to it.サ ー ス ベ ン

    Horsefeathers!

    Malkavian locked, then deletd the thread because you took the thread so far off topic into far-right religious propaganda.

    I'm not claiming I'm a victim. I gave as good as I got. But the hypocrisy eminating from this thread is almost tangable. None of the threads in question was moved off topic by me. You guys are responsible for the threads going political. I responded to conservative political posts in every case. All of you piled the insulting rhetoric on me. Now you are playing the innocent that been offended? Spare us the saccarine.


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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138


    Originally posted by Alistair
    Hmm...Quote this then.
    Leftie, Logically speaking...Shut the fuck up.  For good.  Just go away.
    And it's Alistair.  Go to hell for spelling my name wrong, cuz I'm sick of that shit from everyone, and you broke the straw on the camel's back.  Just keep going Leftie, you'll see how I can be impolite.
    These boards are worth enough to me that I can sacrifice myself to see you gone for the betterment of everyone else here.

    You're gonna save the site, nay, the world, from evil name mis-spellers, huh?

    Has the Roman Catholic Church named a patron saint for the oppressed often-mispelled? Hey, if you're going to martyr yourself for your crusade against evil name mis-spellers, you might as well know if there a Patron Saint slot open for you so your heroic deeds can be recorded and told to future generations. Maybe they can name a Parish for you in Cwmbran, Wales (which is, of course, the capital of the misspelled world).

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  • AlistairAlistair Member UncommonPosts: 318

    I now move to have Leftie banned, as I take a lot of offense to the post above.  Not only are several of my closest friends Roman Catholic, but I am Jewish.  Bringing religion into an obviously non-religious thread is uncalled for, even for the likes of Leftie.

    I'm not martyring myself, asshole.  I'm trying to remove a problem from a place that I frequent and happen to enjoy.  And by the look of things, I'm not the only person bothered by you, Leftie.  Your logic is skewed.  I personally don't like you.  You're a douchebag.  That's just how it is.

    However, I let your stupid posts slide several times.  I didn't even make a move until coming to the boards this morning and finding yet ANOTHER thread in which you've stirred up shit and therefore had locked.  I was even fine with your rather extremist liberal views.  Hell , I share several of them.  Ya know what though?  I know when to keep my nose out of things.  I know that my opinions are just that, MY opinions.  I don't try arguing them with other people are forcing them upon other people.  I know that's just how I am, personally, but it's a respectful and decent thing to do.

     

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  • leftieleftie Member Posts: 138

    [quote]Originally posted by Alistair
    I now move to have Leftie banned, as I take a lot of offense to the post above.  Not only are several of my closest friends Roman Catholic, but I am Jewish.  Bringing religion into an obviously non-religious thread is uncalled for, even for the likes of Leftie.
    I'm not martyring myself, asshole.  I'm trying to remove a problem from a place that I frequent and happen to enjoy.  And by the look of things, I'm not the only person bothered by you, Leftie.  Your logic is skewed.  I personally don't like you.  You're a douchebag.  That's just how it is.
    However, I let your stupid posts slide several times.  I didn't even make a move until coming to the boards this morning and finding yet ANOTHER thread in which you've stirred up shit and therefore had locked.  I was even fine with your rather extremist liberal views.  Hell , I share several of them.  Ya know what though?  I know when to keep my nose out of things.  I know that my opinions are just that, MY opinions.  I don't try arguing them with other people are forcing them upon other people.  I know that's just how I am, personally, but it's a respectful and decent thing to do.
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    (and I guess ol' leftie is the evil Red Skull, huh?::::39::)


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  • FinweFinwe Member CommonPosts: 3,106

    Here it goes again....

    See. Thats really the main problem. Leftie not only expresses his views, he expresses them offensively and immaturely. Always bashing something he doesnt agree with, be it "neo-con terrorists" or "religious nuts". *sigh* Whatcha goin to do when ya got a angry troll on your hands, eh? Personally I like political debates, until when somone likes him makes it too....personal, and insulting, on purpose none the less.

    Well. This thread will probably have to be locked. Another gone to the pits of hell.....For some reason this seems to be happening alot as of late....


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  • MalkavianMalkavian Member UncommonPosts: 2,995

    Ok enough.

    I cannot monitor these boards 24/7 and we do have other staff. But In future, if there is a problem in a thread, doesn't matter what it is... contact any of the staff or myself at malkavian@mmorpg.com. I might be afk or would luck have it, over looked the problem but i will respond promptly, as you are all aware and it will be dealt with appropriately.
    So please do not take it apon yourselves to rectify the problem by pointing out the obvious, flaming etc etc in the thread. Your only making the situation worse and subjecting yourself to the problems level. I respect you all better than to do that.

    Thanx.

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