Why do you bother Thillian , who cares what the guy thinks .
WHAAA< someone says some thing TRUE about this festering piece of crap game and the Vanbois come up with this? The game is awful, will always be awful, and SOE won't do a lot to a game thats loses money but steal some of the few good devs for its flagship EQ2 and let this game die its death.
Look at it this way WoWplayers wouldn't be interested in Vanguard, so where do we get players? EQ1 or EQ2? Why would SOE want to do that?
No its because i remember the guy hanging around here bashing the game in the past and i dont believe one word he says about retrying it and not finding any difference and if that is the case, i would say the only thing that hasnt changed is the guys computer
Alot of people dont like the game that reminds them there computer needs upgraded , I say if you refuse to turn your settings down to a level your computer can handle , than your asking for problems . oh and have fun playing any games that come out in 2008
Yes I retried it. I can't prove it to you, but I actually reinstall the game waited pretty much an entire day for all the damn updates, then logged onto my rogue and druid. They are level 12 and 14, not very high, but I felt so bored at my current level. I'll also say my computer can run VG, although it is choppy at times. I personally did not notice any technical improvement, but at least I could run the darn thing.
I was kind of shocked because I noticed very little difference when I retried it, the UI still feels unpolished, there is no new character animations, still the really embarassing ones from launch, awful voice acting, really boring generic quests..where's the "next-gen" stuff like ship combat....basically the thing still feels very unpolished and unprofessional. And its been a year. I know they reworked alot of the classes, I noticed alot of improvement with my rogue since launch....but why the hell did they release free playtime in its current state? I personally think it was the worst move they could have done. Its not ready for *any* free playtime for anyone. Now they have probably driven more ex-players away.
And yes I was very angry at the game and bashed it alot in the past...who wasn't? I think everyone had the right to, they released a bad, unpolished beta MMO that deserved every bit of bad rap. That aside... I still hope the game turns into something worthwhile. I guess like the VG fans here, I see the potential and want to see the game reach that potential.
Well for one thing i wasnt Tutu ive been playing the game since day 1 with every setting maxed at 1920 x1200 and the game is much better now even on my computer
And as far as animations and quests and such things i find it about the same as any mmo ive ever played which isnt alot of them but vanguard isnt any worse then any ive seen Am glad you see the potentail and sorry your disippointed but honestly where on far different levels of playing the game If you could seeany of my toons fighting on my 24 inch wide screen with every setting maxed you would be hard pressed to say it looks bad , but they really didnt come into there own till i was past lev 20 when i had most of my chains and abilities
Anyways bro hope you find the game that suits you
I run Vanguard on my 42 inch 1080p tv at 1080p, or my 22 inch monitor at 1600x1050 and it still looks quite bad in general. I have everything else at max, except no anti-aliasing.The color scheme seems to be shades of gray, and the animations are horrid in general.
Sure, there are some very nice technical bells and whistles, but that does not make the game look good.
I run Vanguard on my 42 inch 1080p tv at 1080p, or my 22 inch monitor at 1600x1050 and it still looks quite bad in general. I have everything else at max, except no anti-aliasing.The color scheme seems to be shades of gray, and the animations are horrid in general.
Sure, there are some very nice technical bells and whistles, but that does not make the game look good.
Well i can understand it not looking good on a 42inch TV , ive got a 4000$ sony HDTV 40inch myself and i wouldn't even dream of using it as a monitor
Shades of grey??? the only thing thats grey are things that should be, you might want to reset the factory color settings on your monitor cause theres something seriously wrong with your machine Oh and adjusting your contrast and brightness settings along with your gamma really brings the color out dont know who preset vanguards settings but they didnt do a very good job of it
The game world can look really bad on a fresh install without playing with settings. I found the first thing you need to do is adjust the gamma, brightness and contrast and it brings out some of the games better qualities.
God I love this game like a long lost son who is now 50, a lawyer, successful, and more over dead, and happened to name his long lost father (me) in his will. 1) Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg. 2) Everquest 2's launch was rough, but nothing compared to vanguard's launch. EQ2 needed tweaks, Vanguard needed a complete rewrite. 3) The game play philosophy between Vanguard and EQ2 is quite different. I don't see how one can equal the other. 4) The first two replies to this thread are why I will never again try to play Vanguard. The community is stacked top to bottom with complete f#@%in^ idiots. They will never admit to the game's shortcomings (although they are happy to ride the short bus). They want to blame the community, the launch, the press, the forums, SOE. or even people's outdated 6 month old systems(!) for the failure of this game. Be honest, this game sucked from scratch. SOE had nothing to do with the 6 year old, twice dumped, 18 GIG(!), unplayable monstrosity that became Vanguard. Edit: There was a game that had a similar launch, with quite a lot in common with Vanguard, I think that was DnL. Great job sigil. Note, sigil, brad...for once Smed gets a break.
Its ok take a deep breath someday you will have a computer to play a game like vanguard
My computer would play it in spades while also allowing me to duel run Ryzom and SL. I did build this machine from scratch, which means I respect it way too much to litter my hard drive with 18G of VG. You take a breath, a very deep one, and exhale with something useful.
Bud if you dont like vanguard so much what are you doing trolling its forums , are the games you play that boring
"Bud" the OP included EQ2 in the comparison, so this is not limited to Vanguard now is it? 1-3 addressed EQ2 as well as Vanguard. When you feel like replying, feel free to address the post. If you can't reply to any point, you are the one trolling. By the way, these are mmorpg forums, not Vanguard's. Oh right, they didn't have an official forum, did they?
You know what Dalevi1,you didnt exactly stay on topic yourself , you got all in a huff because a few posters dared say EQ2 has a low pop and came unglued you called every person that plays vanguard a name. You are in fact trolling when you insult every player that plays vanguard
Dont be mad at us because we like vanguard and are mostly adults who fall into the top 5% of people who own the best computers
So, Let me get this right, I said "Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg" and that puts me in a "huff"? I am not mad at you for liking vanguard, and I responded with #4 due to the first two replies to this thread, which do not help VG's status as "adults" as you so want to make them out to be. Plus, Vanguard is not a top 5% game if you include only systems owned by gamers. I think my C2D 2.66, 1066 FSB, 4G 800MHrz Ram with dual SLI Nvidia 7900GS system can handle anything VG wants to throw my direction.
All I can say is this, Vanguard had the launch Dark and Light *wished* it could have. Which is to mean it had enough brainwashed forum mongers with Pom-Poms available who would rather crash than admit defeat. Meanwhile, Sigil was more than happy to take thousands of people for $50 for a game that would not play at it's own recommended settings. There was even a gaming site, a real gaming site, that gave the game a goose egg because they could not even get it to run on their system!?
I have found the Vanguard community, from day 1 following release, to not be reasonable adults, more a cult of fork bending wannabe beatniks (scientologists?) who spent every waking moment posting how other players systems were substandard, rather than looking at the core of the problem, that being, the game was faulty.
And for the second time in 24 hours, this complete failure had nothing to do with SOE. EQ2 on the other hand, made up for it's inequity in short months following launch, and has become one of the most accessible games on the market. That was SOE's fault, and damn them to hell for it...
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
God I love this game like a long lost son who is now 50, a lawyer, successful, and more over dead, and happened to name his long lost father (me) in his will. 1) Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg. 2) Everquest 2's launch was rough, but nothing compared to vanguard's launch. EQ2 needed tweaks, Vanguard needed a complete rewrite. 3) The game play philosophy between Vanguard and EQ2 is quite different. I don't see how one can equal the other. 4) The first two replies to this thread are why I will never again try to play Vanguard. The community is stacked top to bottom with complete f#@%in^ idiots. They will never admit to the game's shortcomings (although they are happy to ride the short bus). They want to blame the community, the launch, the press, the forums, SOE. or even people's outdated 6 month old systems(!) for the failure of this game. Be honest, this game sucked from scratch. SOE had nothing to do with the 6 year old, twice dumped, 18 GIG(!), unplayable monstrosity that became Vanguard. Edit: There was a game that had a similar launch, with quite a lot in common with Vanguard, I think that was DnL. Great job sigil. Note, sigil, brad...for once Smed gets a break.
Its ok take a deep breath someday you will have a computer to play a game like vanguard
My computer would play it in spades while also allowing me to duel run Ryzom and SL. I did build this machine from scratch, which means I respect it way too much to litter my hard drive with 18G of VG. You take a breath, a very deep one, and exhale with something useful.
Bud if you dont like vanguard so much what are you doing trolling its forums , are the games you play that boring
"Bud" the OP included EQ2 in the comparison, so this is not limited to Vanguard now is it? 1-3 addressed EQ2 as well as Vanguard. When you feel like replying, feel free to address the post. If you can't reply to any point, you are the one trolling. By the way, these are mmorpg forums, not Vanguard's. Oh right, they didn't have an official forum, did they?
You know what Dalevi1,you didnt exactly stay on topic yourself , you got all in a huff because a few posters dared say EQ2 has a low pop and came unglued you called every person that plays vanguard a name. You are in fact trolling when you insult every player that plays vanguard
Dont be mad at us because we like vanguard and are mostly adults who fall into the top 5% of people who own the best computers
So, Let me get this right, I said "Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg" and that puts me in a "huff"? I am not mad at you for liking vanguard, and I responded with #4 due to the first two replies to this thread, which do not help VG's status as "adults" as you so want to make them out to be. Plus, Vanguard is not a top 5% game if you include only systems owned by gamers. I think my C2D 2.66, 1066 FSB, 4G 800MHrz Ram with dual SLI Nvidia 7900GS system can handle anything VG wants to throw my direction.
All I can say is this, Vanguard had the launch Dark and Light *wished* it could have. Which is to mean it had enough brainwashed forum mongers with Pom-Poms available who would rather crash than admit defeat. Meanwhile, Sigil was more than happy to take thousands of people for $50 for a game that would not play at it's own recommended settings. There was even a gaming site, a real gaming site, that gave the game a goose egg because they could not even get it to run on their system!?
I have found the Vanguard community, from day 1 following release, to not be reasonable adults, more a cult of fork bending wannabe beatniks (scientologists?) who spent every waking moment posting how other players systems were substandard, rather than looking at the core of the problem, that being, the game was faulty.
And for the second time in 24 hours, this complete failure had nothing to do with SOE. EQ2 on the other hand, made up for it's inequity in short months following launch, and has become one of the most accessible games on the market. That was SOE's fault, and damn them to hell for it...
Actually vanguard doesnt support SLI , so your running the game on one 7900gs , which by todays standards isnt that great of a card sorry and 4 gigs what a waste of money
so your telling me you couldnt run vanguard on that rig but i could get my son playing just fine on a AMD 3200, 2 gigs of PC2700 and a x850xt, wow you built that rig yourself you say
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WHAAA< someone says some thing TRUE about this festering piece of crap game and the Vanbois come up with this? The game is awful, will always be awful, and SOE won't do a lot to a game thats loses money but steal some of the few good devs for its flagship EQ2 and let this game die its death.
Look at it this way WoWplayers wouldn't be interested in Vanguard, so where do we get players? EQ1 or EQ2? Why would SOE want to do that?
No its because i remember the guy hanging around here bashing the game in the past and i dont believe one word he says about retrying it and not finding any difference and if that is the case, i would say the only thing that hasnt changed is the guys computer
Alot of people dont like the game that reminds them there computer needs upgraded , I say if you refuse to turn your settings down to a level your computer can handle , than your asking for problems . oh and have fun playing any games that come out in 2008
Yes I retried it. I can't prove it to you, but I actually reinstall the game waited pretty much an entire day for all the damn updates, then logged onto my rogue and druid. They are level 12 and 14, not very high, but I felt so bored at my current level. I'll also say my computer can run VG, although it is choppy at times. I personally did not notice any technical improvement, but at least I could run the darn thing.
I was kind of shocked because I noticed very little difference when I retried it, the UI still feels unpolished, there is no new character animations, still the really embarassing ones from launch, awful voice acting, really boring generic quests..where's the "next-gen" stuff like ship combat....basically the thing still feels very unpolished and unprofessional. And its been a year. I know they reworked alot of the classes, I noticed alot of improvement with my rogue since launch....but why the hell did they release free playtime in its current state? I personally think it was the worst move they could have done. Its not ready for *any* free playtime for anyone. Now they have probably driven more ex-players away.
And yes I was very angry at the game and bashed it alot in the past...who wasn't? I think everyone had the right to, they released a bad, unpolished beta MMO that deserved every bit of bad rap. That aside... I still hope the game turns into something worthwhile. I guess like the VG fans here, I see the potential and want to see the game reach that potential.
Well for one thing i wasnt Tutu ive been playing the game since day 1 with every setting maxed at 1920 x1200 and the game is much better now even on my computer
And as far as animations and quests and such things i find it about the same as any mmo ive ever played which isnt alot of them but vanguard isnt any worse then any ive seen Am glad you see the potentail and sorry your disippointed but honestly where on far different levels of playing the game If you could seeany of my toons fighting on my 24 inch wide screen with every setting maxed you would be hard pressed to say it looks bad , but they really didnt come into there own till i was past lev 20 when i had most of my chains and abilities
Anyways bro hope you find the game that suits you
I run Vanguard on my 42 inch 1080p tv at 1080p, or my 22 inch monitor at 1600x1050 and it still looks quite bad in general. I have everything else at max, except no anti-aliasing.The color scheme seems to be shades of gray, and the animations are horrid in general.Sure, there are some very nice technical bells and whistles, but that does not make the game look good.
Well i can understand it not looking good on a 42inch TV , ive got a 4000$ sony HDTV 40inch myself and i wouldn't even dream of using it as a monitor
Shades of grey??? the only thing thats grey are things that should be, you might want to reset the factory color settings on your monitor cause theres something seriously wrong with your machine Oh and adjusting your contrast and brightness settings along with your gamma really brings the color out dont know who preset vanguards settings but they didnt do a very good job of it
The game world can look really bad on a fresh install without playing with settings. I found the first thing you need to do is adjust the gamma, brightness and contrast and it brings out some of the games better qualities.
Its ok take a deep breath someday you will have a computer to play a game like vanguard
My computer would play it in spades while also allowing me to duel run Ryzom and SL. I did build this machine from scratch, which means I respect it way too much to litter my hard drive with 18G of VG. You take a breath, a very deep one, and exhale with something useful.
Bud if you dont like vanguard so much what are you doing trolling its forums , are the games you play that boring
"Bud" the OP included EQ2 in the comparison, so this is not limited to Vanguard now is it? 1-3 addressed EQ2 as well as Vanguard. When you feel like replying, feel free to address the post. If you can't reply to any point, you are the one trolling. By the way, these are mmorpg forums, not Vanguard's. Oh right, they didn't have an official forum, did they?
You know what Dalevi1,you didnt exactly stay on topic yourself , you got all in a huff because a few posters dared say EQ2 has a low pop and came unglued you called every person that plays vanguard a name. You are in fact trolling when you insult every player that plays vanguard
Dont be mad at us because we like vanguard and are mostly adults who fall into the top 5% of people who own the best computers
So, Let me get this right, I said "Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg" and that puts me in a "huff"? I am not mad at you for liking vanguard, and I responded with #4 due to the first two replies to this thread, which do not help VG's status as "adults" as you so want to make them out to be. Plus, Vanguard is not a top 5% game if you include only systems owned by gamers. I think my C2D 2.66, 1066 FSB, 4G 800MHrz Ram with dual SLI Nvidia 7900GS system can handle anything VG wants to throw my direction.All I can say is this, Vanguard had the launch Dark and Light *wished* it could have. Which is to mean it had enough brainwashed forum mongers with Pom-Poms available who would rather crash than admit defeat. Meanwhile, Sigil was more than happy to take thousands of people for $50 for a game that would not play at it's own recommended settings. There was even a gaming site, a real gaming site, that gave the game a goose egg because they could not even get it to run on their system!?
I have found the Vanguard community, from day 1 following release, to not be reasonable adults, more a cult of fork bending wannabe beatniks (scientologists?) who spent every waking moment posting how other players systems were substandard, rather than looking at the core of the problem, that being, the game was faulty.
And for the second time in 24 hours, this complete failure had nothing to do with SOE. EQ2 on the other hand, made up for it's inequity in short months following launch, and has become one of the most accessible games on the market. That was SOE's fault, and damn them to hell for it...
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
Its ok take a deep breath someday you will have a computer to play a game like vanguard
My computer would play it in spades while also allowing me to duel run Ryzom and SL. I did build this machine from scratch, which means I respect it way too much to litter my hard drive with 18G of VG. You take a breath, a very deep one, and exhale with something useful.
Bud if you dont like vanguard so much what are you doing trolling its forums , are the games you play that boring
"Bud" the OP included EQ2 in the comparison, so this is not limited to Vanguard now is it? 1-3 addressed EQ2 as well as Vanguard. When you feel like replying, feel free to address the post. If you can't reply to any point, you are the one trolling. By the way, these are mmorpg forums, not Vanguard's. Oh right, they didn't have an official forum, did they?
You know what Dalevi1,you didnt exactly stay on topic yourself , you got all in a huff because a few posters dared say EQ2 has a low pop and came unglued you called every person that plays vanguard a name. You are in fact trolling when you insult every player that plays vanguard
Dont be mad at us because we like vanguard and are mostly adults who fall into the top 5% of people who own the best computers
So, Let me get this right, I said "Everquest 2 is not underpopulated, you must be thinking of vanguard or swg" and that puts me in a "huff"? I am not mad at you for liking vanguard, and I responded with #4 due to the first two replies to this thread, which do not help VG's status as "adults" as you so want to make them out to be. Plus, Vanguard is not a top 5% game if you include only systems owned by gamers. I think my C2D 2.66, 1066 FSB, 4G 800MHrz Ram with dual SLI Nvidia 7900GS system can handle anything VG wants to throw my direction.All I can say is this, Vanguard had the launch Dark and Light *wished* it could have. Which is to mean it had enough brainwashed forum mongers with Pom-Poms available who would rather crash than admit defeat. Meanwhile, Sigil was more than happy to take thousands of people for $50 for a game that would not play at it's own recommended settings. There was even a gaming site, a real gaming site, that gave the game a goose egg because they could not even get it to run on their system!?
I have found the Vanguard community, from day 1 following release, to not be reasonable adults, more a cult of fork bending wannabe beatniks (scientologists?) who spent every waking moment posting how other players systems were substandard, rather than looking at the core of the problem, that being, the game was faulty.
And for the second time in 24 hours, this complete failure had nothing to do with SOE. EQ2 on the other hand, made up for it's inequity in short months following launch, and has become one of the most accessible games on the market. That was SOE's fault, and damn them to hell for it...
Actually vanguard doesnt support SLI , so your running the game on one 7900gs , which by todays standards isnt that great of a card sorry and 4 gigs what a waste of moneyso your telling me you couldnt run vanguard on that rig but i could get my son playing just fine on a AMD 3200, 2 gigs of PC2700 and a x850xt, wow you built that rig yourself you say