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Magic World Online CB2 (partial open beta)
asciirider
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Tonight at 10 PM Pacific time (GMT -7) Magic World Online wil lbe going into CB 2, which is pretty much an open beta as registration is open to all, and there's no plan on any server wipes.
mwo.enjoymmo.com is the link to the home page.
I've been playing since CB1 started and I have to say I'm hooked. Friendly community, Easy to learn, and unheard of features not found in other games, namely a legal bot and videochat.
GM's are active, unlike most games and actually listen to input from players. They've even sharted their own MSN chat group for players to interact with them, and each other.
While by today's standards of high powered 3-d games, the 2.5D grapics seem dated, all it does it make you concentrate more on the gameplay instead of the hype.
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Does movement consist of the arrow keys or clicking? And are the classes and genders linked, or can any class be any gender?
I'll pass after seeing this:
"* Free Your Hands *
Getting fed up with the tiring but endless and unnecessary mouse clicking in MMORPG?
Spending hundreds of minutes to walk in a map and hoping something like the GPS auto navigation system could be your savior?
There are players spotted smiling in their sound sleep when their characters are continuing to level up. It is entirely a job of artificial intelligence (AI) that allows you to commission the extremely smart in-game MWO Robot to perform for you. Apart from the convenience of AI, game guide information in MWO is available to players wherever and whenever they need it. Players can easily navigate through the help index to search a topic of interest. The displays and controls of help information are made very accessible and easy to use."
Who wants to play a game where everyone just has their characters on auto-pilot leveling up? The friggen game plays itself for you, where the hell is the fun in that?
The 4 classes, Archer, Mage, Summoner, Warrior can be used by either sex.
For movement, it's point and click, however you can open the map, click a point there and your character will go there, but the game also has a unique feature in the fact it has a built in bot. With it you can cross multiple maps with just a few clicks, set it to fight in a certaiin area, have it auto buy and sell, heal youself, etc. It basically takes al lthe drudgery out of moving and grinding. And yes... you CAN even level up in your sleep if you set the bot right.
And to Zorvan finer YOU go play a game where people make illegal bots to gold farm, run power leveling sites etc. This levels the playing field...EVERYONE has the same chance now.
I've been part of the game since the launch of CB1, and the only thing I find a problem with is being able to videochat in game... while novel, in an all ages environment it could lead to some serious problems.
I greatly dislike clicking to move. I won't play a game if it's click to move. I also have to agree that with a game that plays itself, there isn't much point.
WTF?!... you have EVE online on your sign? Don't EVE let you level offline???
I totally agree, I tried the game..Its literally the worst one yet, not only is it clicked to move, with lack of cam control. You do not have to do anything but let the game run itself...so emm...why are you playing a game if your not accually playing?
Everyone has his own style of picking a game. To me I like click and point games, it's easy and playing game is to have fun not to regard it as a pro-job. I can play when I want, I can click when I want, I can point when I want, I can chat when I want. That's enough for me. If you like 2D games, you can have a try.
Your point is 100% understandable....the point I personally do not understand is the fact that you do not have to play this game at all... hence you have people with 200 accounts trolling the game, there is no way for there to be a balanced market, or any type of in game balance..its just foolishness...its going to turn into a video chat room with an option too watch you character play a game!
Well there is nothing wrong with the in game balance. Hardcore gamers can take a break and casual gamers can be hardcore. Thanks to the botting system every can level evenly, it doenst depend on how many hours you can spare in the day or not and i think thats excellent.
As for the game playing itself, you are far wrong, if you want to do the quests and what not you have to do them by yourself the bot cant complete the quests for you and also whilst im in the game i actually play it, i only leave it botting when i go, which i find great because i still feel im achieving somthing in the game whilst im gone.
How come nobody ever knocks EVE, it does exactly the same sort of thing, you can train skills whilst your offline, in MWO you can level up its just a variation.
The community isnt effected atall really, yes there are bots, but nobody is running around shouting "AMG BOTTER" because in MWO it is accepted, today iv been chatting to different people all day, yes iv encountered some people just botting, but so what, i have no need to talk to them anyway.
As long as i have some friends to chat to and PVP wars with high turn outs im fine.
How many times have you heard people say, or said yourself in a game "i like having people to talk to, it helps with the grind" well this is a game where you dont have to worry about that.
Bellah what the hell are you basing your statement on "you dont have to actually play this game atall" thats BS, if you actually want to be effective in the game you need to be actively playing it, the botting wont cut it, you will miss out on important quests (job upgrades) crafting, pvp, boss hunts. You cannot simply say that the game plays itself, it has alot of other features in it that require the players attention to complete.
All the bot does is simply level the playing field and remove the boring grind allowing the user to progress constantly and still be able to play the game for fun when he/she wants to.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
What a crock! the game is unbalanced and will never have an economy! whats the point...could be why people are leaving it in droves! there is no way to balance a game where money and power are no object!
You are simply incorrect. Games eceonomies only become unbalanced when gold is being sold for real life cash thanks to ilegal botting. You see the botters get the in game currency, some idiot buys it online and then spends 10mil in game on an item that should only cost maybe 1mil, then suddenly everyone is selling that same 1mi item for 10mil and up because thats what gold buyers have been buying them for. It then becomes a never ending cycle of gold buyers bumping up prices of normal items due to them having such a huge amount of money that the normal gamer has to grind and grind just to be able to afford the items, or give in and buy gold for themselves just to be able to compete. Its a vicious circle and That FYI is called inflation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
In MWO this wont happen as everyone will be able to make the same amount of cash. and will have no need to purchase it from websites simply because botting is legal for everyone. So really you have your very own gold farming machine at your disposal and thus it is fair for everyone.
Money and power are no object for everyone who plays MWO so that makes it balanced, everyone has the ability to do what everyone else can, it doesnt matter who has more hours in the day to play, its not like other games where the unemplyed players are the rulers because they are able to play all day long and thus gain more money/power than the average joe who works 8 hours+ a day. I just cant understand how you seem to be incapable of grasping this.
Also i actually laughed at your comment about people leaving in droves. Where are you even pulling this stuff from. Do you even realise that the game has only been open for everyone to play for 4 days.
Serious ignorance.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
You need to read posts my freind, and there is no way for the IN GAME economy to be balanced!!!! the money will never have a value as no one will have a need..the only thing that will have value will be items, so unless people start some serious bartering..your out of luck! and balance of in game currency by gold farmers was never even mentioned as that was never thought to be an issue since, again the money is never going to have a value..and people even left the beta's!!
AND P.S. it isnt just the unemployed gamers that have money and power in a game..its the ones that accually have a clue, they learn the game and how to play it correctly and not use nonsense to get ahead like having 20 alts, gold farming, or playing 24 hours a day. Stradegy will get you everywhere in a real MMO which this game is not now...and never will be..it is a glorified chat room!
People always leave betas, people always leave games, thats the way the cookie crumbles.
I have read your posts, so dont accuse me of not reading. Iv read every word and i still think its bs.
Yes items will be the main thing of value, but what will items be bought with, hmmmm in game currency just like every other game on the market. I dont see how you are making the connection that just because people will have alot of money in the game that it wont be used to buy items. Iv played a few games where money has been really easy to get and all that happend was that the items just went for larger sums of money.
Even if what you say does happen (which i doubt) it wont matter anyway, because people will just bot until they get the item they want, no big deal.
Your stuck on 1 thought and blowing it out of proportion without even considering other out comes. Your just repeating what your have already said in every post. Atleast im trying to understand where your coming from.
Lmao, just read your P.S. Listen, unemployed people or people with loads of time on there hands who have some understanding of a game (any game) will always be ahead because they get about 6 hours more play time per day.
It doesnt make any bloody difference if someone is pro at an mmorpg, if its going to take them an hour to get a level up and they only have 6 hours to play but the unemployed guy has 12 or 15 hours to play the unemplyed guy will be ahead by 6 to 8 levels IF it takes an hour to level, this is just an example.
Anyway its early in the AM now for me so im gonna sleep. Happy ranting.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
No i just think YOU have no clue how this works..you didnt read the post! what I said had you read it is that it will end up on a bartering system....that means...now ill go slow for you....it means you will trade items, goods, or services for other items, goods or services....ok then?? can you follow now...and if your going to quote someone...try doing it appropriatly!! you might want to reread yours as you reworded what i said into nonsense! and Im no longer here about the game...your just anoying!
I read every word of your post again, stop claiming that i havnt, is that your only defence. As for quoting you, i cant even find a line in my posts where i have tried to quote you, iv simply just answered your points. i cba chopping up posts and quoting little bits because its late. Either way i havnt switched anything into nonsense like you claim. Infact please point out what i reworded into nonsesne lol ? iv just read my posts again and it all makes perfect sense to someone who can manage their A.B.C's.
I read about the bartering and like i said, that wont happen, cash will still be used.
In Cabal online you can quite easily get 50,000,000 in game money, but people sell the items for 250,000,000+ to make up the large amount of money in the game. They dont barter, or offer services, they simply just up the prices of the items that they are selling and that is how money keeps its value, just like it will in MWO.
^^in bold to help you^^
If you actually replied to the points in my post and answered my arguments like im answering your it would be great.
We arnt going to agree, your going to keep babbling about money having no value because everyone will be able to get it easily, even though your forgetting that people will be able to get these items that you speak of for "bartering" with via the usage of the bot system also. As for services i dont even know what your talking about, there was no prostitute class in the game when i last looked.
I dont even care for the argument now.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
you quoted my PS first off..second off..you cant compare COBAL online and this game...you need to work for that money not leave a game trolling 24 hours a day!
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Nope, your ps said this
"AND P.S. it isnt just the unemployed gamers that have money and power in a game..its the ones that accually have a clue, they learn the game and how to play it correctly and not use nonsense to get ahead like having 20 alts, gold farming, or playing 24 hours a day. Stradegy will get you everywhere in a real MMO which this game is not now...and never will be..it is a glorified chat room!"
My reply was this
"Lmao, just read your P.S. Listen, unemployed people or people with loads of time on there hands who have some understanding of a game (any game) will always be ahead because they get about 6 hours more play time per day.
It doesnt make any bloody difference if someone is pro at an mmorpg, if its going to take them an hour to get a level up and they only have 6 hours to play but the unemployed guy has 12 or 15 hours to play the unemplyed guy will be ahead by 6 to 8 levels IF it takes an hour to level, this is just an example."
Please point out where i quoted you and twisted what you said. I think you will find that i didn't, all i did was simply point out that you where wrong.
I can compare Cabal, it's a free to play game as is MWO, you can gain money easily on Cabal just like you can on MWO the only difference being that you are not allowed to bot on Cabal, so therefore both of the games economies can be compared.
Your arguments make no sense atall, first your going on about how money will have no value in MWO and now your slating it because you dont have to work for the money, sounds like your just trying desperatly argue about anything. Also you are obviously not reading what im writing because all your doing is repeating yourself over and over again and not actually answering any of my points, in fact most of the things iv said have broken your arguments and all you can do to defend it is repeat what you have already said.
Id just like to add also that iv never played an mmo that requires strategy in your P.S you said
"stradegy (strategy) will get you everywhere in a real mmo"
seriously what MMO have you played that requires strategy, they are all pretty much the same old click on a monster and let your character attack whilst you use the odd skill and potion.
Really answer what im saying this time.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Cobal is not a game run on botting..money is worked for..not reproduced by botting, yes items may sell for millions, but its millions gained by work. All games have a stradegy, thats why they are called games.
And by the way...long post do not make you look good...they make you look long winded and full of nonsensical jargon with factless statments.
1. Im not argueing a useless point, i have said what i wanted to say, you do nothing but repeat yourself because you dont have a clue what your talking about. Already you have changed your original point.
2. You dont have any backup either, atleast mine makes more sense than yours.
3. I don't think mmorpgs need strategy, they are some of the most simple games around, you hardly even have to think about 90% of them, this has been discussed on these bored many times.
4. It is spelt Cabal. What difference does it make if the money is worked for or not, the point is in both games you get alot of many, so the prices of items are higher but money does still have VALUE, that was your original argument ffs. Now you are changing your argument to a different subject entirely.
5. My posts are only long winded because i am replying to everything that you are typing and i am also constructing my points properly, it is a waste of time though because you lack the comprehension to understand what im writing. Actually looking back my posts aren't even that long.
Now lets see if you can actually read and answer any of this.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
While I think the idea of adding legal bots sounds interesting and daring, I keep wondering...Why not make a MMO without any grind to start with? Why should the solution to grind be: 'let's add methods to make grinding easier' and not 'let's remove grind alltogether'. I am really curious as to how the dev team came up with this particular solution to grind, because to me, it seems such an illogical solution.
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Playing: Final Fantasy Online: ARR, Destiny
Most memorable games for me: UO, GW1, LoTRO
I understand what your saying but the bot isnt entirely for the grind, infact so far the game isn't even all that grindy compared to alot.
The GMs have said the main thought behind the bot is to level the playing field, no matter what yor circumstances are you can still be as "active" in the game as the next guy, it doesn't matter if your working or not you wont be left behind and nobody will get ahead. Basically everyone has the same leveling time as each other, thus making it a level playing field for everyone.
Garrik
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
While I think the idea of adding legal bots sounds interesting and daring, I keep wondering...Why not make a MMO without any grind to start with? Why should the solution to grind be: 'let's add methods to make grinding easier' and not 'let's remove grind alltogether'. I am really curious as to how the dev team came up with this particular solution to grind, because to me, it seems such an illogical solution.
The GMs have said the main thought behind the bot is to level the playing field, no matter what yor circumstances are you can still be as "avtive" in the game as the next guy, it doesn't matter if your working or not you wont be left behind and nobody will get ahead. Basically everyone has the same leveling time as each other, thus making it a level playing field for everyone.
If it's about 'leveling the playing field', the same logic applies: why not make a game that doesn't have levels that you need to increase? It's kind of like the devs thought: 'every MMO on the market has levels, so our game will have them too'. *Devs go off and make a generic MMO with levels*. And then it's 'oh wait, but leveling needs to be done in a way that it isn't grindy and that the leveling field is equal for everyone. Let's add bots!'. Instead of 'we want to make a non-grindy game where the leveling field is equal, so we make an MMO without levels'. I just can't help but think that this way of thinking (the bot solution) is rather peculiar.
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Playing: Final Fantasy Online: ARR, Destiny
Most memorable games for me: UO, GW1, LoTRO
I gave this game a shot and I'm really surprised how much I'm enjoying it. Its a lot of fun actually. You can grind all you want, and when you want to walk away, you can, and keep on grinding afk. The bot isn't perfect, but it helps when you are trying to get a specific skill book. You can just get it going in the area that drops it and go surf the web or play another game for a bit. The graphics are actually pretty damn decent considering its 2D. And it runs so well I don't think anyones PC would have a problem with it (even when you run multiple other games at the same time). Not a single bug found yet!
BTW, they are not going to wipe characters after open beta ends. Theres a lot of cool things about this game once you dig under the surface. I'd suggest trying it. I bet by the time you get to level 30 you'll agree that its the best Open Beta going, and maybe the best free MMO out there.
The GMs have said the main thought behind the bot is to level the playing field, no matter what yor circumstances are you can still be as "avtive" in the game as the next guy, it doesn't matter if your working or not you wont be left behind and nobody will get ahead. Basically everyone has the same leveling time as each other, thus making it a level playing field for everyone.
If it's about 'leveling the playing field', the same logic applies: why not make a game that doesn't have levels that you need to increase? It's kind of like the devs thought: 'every MMO on the market has levels, so our game will have them too'. *Devs go off and make a generic MMO with levels*. And then it's 'oh wait, but leveling needs to be done in a way that it isn't grindy and that the leveling field is equal for everyone. Let's add bots!'. Instead of 'we want to make a non-grindy game where the leveling field is equal, so we make an MMO without levels'. I just can't help but think that this way of thinking (the bot solution) is rather peculiar.
If the game was made grind free then what would the hardcore players do who choose to play the game all day instead of botting ?
The bot allows the casual players to keep up with the hardcore players whilst still allowing the hardcore players to be as hardcore as they normally are.
Like i've said, there is alot more to the game other than grinding and that is the only area that hardcore players who are actually playing their character will be able to gain an advantage.
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"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
LOL, so what you are saying is botting levels the playing field, but hardcore players will still have an advantage. See my problem with understanding the logic ? Are we not clear on the definition of level playing field ?