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10 reasons to cancel your pre-order

pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443

Nothing in the below post breaks the NDA in any shape or form, having said that, here are 10 reasons why you should cancel your pre-order ASAP.

 

 

1. The so called "open beta" is infact a fileplanet subscriber exclusive.

2. The open beta only allows you to get to level 13, which means you wont even get to the MMO part of the game. Might aswell be a singleplayer demo in that aspect.

3. With less then a month left to release the NDA is STILL in effect.

4. Online gaming sites have only been allowed to play under supervision and for a very limited amount of time, which effectively limits their reporting to whatever funcom wants them to report.

5. Countless beta leaks on various forums (of which many are consistent with other leaks) stating a plethora of issues with the game and that it is not ready for release.

6. Where are the ACTUAL siege movies? So far all weve seen are video demonstrations and not fraps recordings of two real beta guilds sieging it out. Not even a screenshot!

7. Its funcom. Remember Anarchy Online? Dubbed by many to be the worst launch in MMO history(possibly rivaled by dark and light).

8. Lucrative yet expensive pre-order deals (read: siege mounts) usually means the devs are out to make a quick buck before the shi* hits the storm (a'la dark and light).

9. The amount of information released on one of the game's biggest selling points is vague at best, looking more like a showcase of its potential then what is actually implemented right now. Yes im talking about sieging.

10. And last but not least, its fanboys. Ive noticed a trend in games that fail soon after release and that is; the crappier the game, the more rabid the fanboy. We saw this trend in Vanguard, Dark and Light, Pirates of The Burning Sea and DDO. All of whom can be considered rather huge failures in terms of hype pre-release versus success post-release.

All these games had huge followings of rabid fanboys that would burn alive any critic of the game no matter how sounds their arguments were. This trend has become painfully apparent in AoC and unfortunately, its due to these fanboys that would rather flame and troll then question the developers motives of not releasing a full scale NDA-free beta that will ultimately doom this game.

 

 

 

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  • aithieelaithieel Member Posts: 232

    Actually I'am not sure if I'll cancel my pre-order or not. I'll decide when I get into play at 1st May. Anyway I won't suggest topic like this (no, no no!) at my decision. Maybe some pepole expect too mutch from AoC? I just wanna give it a try and see that on my own.

    A.

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  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882

    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.

     

     

    OH well!

    "Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
    ^MMORPG.com

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Hmm all i can say is i cancelled after the beta weekend because it was boring to me and bland. While i know i haven t seen much of the game i can already tell it won t hold my attention a really long time. Will i buy it ya i m sure i will (review after release pending) but i know for a fact IMO anways i ll not be to keen on the end game pvp as it s described now. If it s changed more to how i like it then maybe but i doubt that. Now remember this is my opinion and everyone has their own , but i will be playing WAR at it s release no matter what(testing it and love it, all i ll say) but i m bored to death with the MMO s out now, which means ya i might buy it till WAR is released. That being said I know alot of people doing the same as me, waiting to hear how AOC is and play till they drop it faster then the click of a button for WAR :) To each their own though.

  • skepticalskeptical Member Posts: 357

    All valid points that are making alot of people concerned. I'm not a fanboi by any means, but I don't know if I would say the game is going to be like Vanguard either. We will find out soon enough. If they are keeping as much as possible from the public to peak interest and hype that could backfire bigtime even if the game is solid.

    This game can't and won't make a profit just on pre-orders. If it really sucks this could all be a ploy to sell as many pre-orders as possible and just dump the game after release like Vanguard did. That would ruin funcom so it's hard to see them going with that kind of scorched earth policy.

  • BetaguyBetaguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,629
    Originally posted by pirrg

    Nothing in the below post breaks the NDA in any shape or form, having said that, here are 10 reasons why you should cancel your pre-order ASAP.
     
     
    1. The so called "open beta" is infact a fileplanet subscriber exclusive.
    2. The open beta only allows you to get to level 13, which means you wont even get to the MMO part of the game. Might aswell be a singleplayer demo in that aspect.
    3. With less then a month left to release the NDA is STILL in effect.
    4. Online gaming sites have only been allowed to play under supervision and for a very limited amount of time, which effectively limits their reporting to whatever funcom wants them to report.
    5. Countless beta leaks on various forums (of which many are consistent with other leaks) stating a plethora of issues with the game and that it is not ready for release.
    6. Where are the ACTUAL siege movies? So far all weve seen are video demonstrations and not fraps recordings of two real beta guilds sieging it out. Not even a screenshot!
    7. Its funcom. Remember Anarchy Online? Dubbed by many to be the worst launch in MMO history(possibly rivaled by dark and light).
    8. Lucrative yet expensive pre-order deals (read: siege mounts) usually means the devs are out to make a quick buck before the shi* hits the storm (a'la dark and light).


    9. The amount of information released on one of the game's biggest selling points is vague at best, looking more like a showcase of its potential then what is actually implemented right now. Yes im talking about sieging.
    10. And last but not least, its fanboys. Ive noticed a trend in games that fail soon after release and that is; the crappier the game, the more rabid the fanboy. We saw this trend in Vanguard, Dark and Light, Pirates of The Burning Sea and DDO. All of whom can be considered rather huge failures in terms of hype pre-release versus success post-release.
    All these games had huge followings of rabid fanboys that would burn alive any critic of the game no matter how sounds their arguments were. This trend has become painfully apparent in AoC and unfortunately, its due to these fanboys that would rather flame and troll then question the developers motives of not releasing a full scale NDA-free beta that will ultimately doom this game.
     
     
     

    Troll is obvious troll.
    Haha, all fabricated information on the AOC side of the house and very very old.
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  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by pirrg


    Nothing in the below post breaks the NDA in any shape or form, having said that, here are 10 reasons why you should cancel your pre-order ASAP.
     
     
    1. The so called "open beta" is infact a fileplanet subscriber exclusive.
    2. The open beta only allows you to get to level 13, which means you wont even get to the MMO part of the game. Might aswell be a singleplayer demo in that aspect.
    3. With less then a month left to release the NDA is STILL in effect.
    4. Online gaming sites have only been allowed to play under supervision and for a very limited amount of time, which effectively limits their reporting to whatever funcom wants them to report.
    5. Countless beta leaks on various forums (of which many are consistent with other leaks) stating a plethora of issues with the game and that it is not ready for release.
    6. Where are the ACTUAL siege movies? So far all weve seen are video demonstrations and not fraps recordings of two real beta guilds sieging it out. Not even a screenshot!
    7. Its funcom. Remember Anarchy Online? Dubbed by many to be the worst launch in MMO history(possibly rivaled by dark and light).
    8. Lucrative yet expensive pre-order deals (read: siege mounts) usually means the devs are out to make a quick buck before the shi* hits the storm (a'la dark and light).
    9. The amount of information released on one of the game's biggest selling points is vague at best, looking more like a showcase of its potential then what is actually implemented right now. Yes im talking about sieging.
    10. And last but not least, its fanboys. Ive noticed a trend in games that fail soon after release and that is; the crappier the game, the more rabid the fanboy. We saw this trend in Vanguard, Dark and Light, Pirates of The Burning Sea and DDO. All of whom can be considered rather huge failures in terms of hype pre-release versus success post-release.
    All these games had huge followings of rabid fanboys that would burn alive any critic of the game no matter how sounds their arguments were. This trend has become painfully apparent in AoC and unfortunately, its due to these fanboys that would rather flame and troll then question the developers motives of not releasing a full scale NDA-free beta that will ultimately doom this game.
     
     
     

    Why do you care?

    I have read whats out there, balanced the information, and made an educated choice to pre-order.

    Why have you assumed the role of evangelical anti-AoC missionary here?

    I think your sig is wrong, I think you are just here to argue and fight.

  • ThandurinThandurin Member Posts: 21

    Thats why you preorder from Gamestop get the mammoth code card and cancel later so you can wait till the reviews come out.

  • alakramalakram Member UncommonPosts: 2,301
    Originally posted by pirrg


    Nothing in the below post breaks the NDA in any shape or form, having said that, here are 10 reasons why you should cancel your pre-order ASAP.
     
     
    1. The so called "open beta" is infact a fileplanet subscriber exclusive. This is not a reason to cancel a preorder. at least for me.


    2. The open beta only allows you to get to level 13, which means you wont even get to the MMO part of the game. Might aswell be a singleplayer demo in that aspect. Maybe they dont want players to play for free, just to strest test the logins.
    3. With less then a month left to release the NDA is STILL in effect. Dont think this is a reason for cancel a preorder too.
    4. Online gaming sites have only been allowed to play under supervision and for a very limited amount of time, which effectively limits their reporting to whatever funcom wants them to report.
    I dont know if this is true, but it would be a valid point.
    5. Countless beta leaks on various forums (of which many are consistent with other leaks) stating a plethora of issues with the game and that it is not ready for release. A lot of beta leaks said spellweaving was not in, and it is, confirmed as of today.
    6. Where are the ACTUAL siege movies? So far all weve seen are video demonstrations and not fraps recordings of two real beta guilds sieging it out. Not even a screenshot! Yeah, this is a big big reason, but maybe some days before release they make like with spellweaving and they announce that it is in too. As of today is really a big reason to preorder.
    7. Its funcom. Remember Anarchy Online? Dubbed by many to be the worst launch in MMO history(possibly rivaled by dark and light). I never was there, it was probably as bad as you say, but  people learn from their mistakes.
    8. Lucrative yet expensive pre-order deals (read: siege mounts) usually means the devs are out to make a quick buck before the shi* hits the storm (a'la dark and light). Yeah I dont like this too. Probably siege mounts ar not as good as they are suposed to be.
    9. The amount of information released on one of the game's biggest selling points is vague at best, looking more like a showcase of its potential then what is actually implemented right now. Yes im talking about sieging. This is not a another reason, is the the reason 6 again.
    10. And last but not least, its fanboys. Ive noticed a trend in games that fail soon after release and that is; the crappier the game, the more rabid the fanboy. We saw this trend in Vanguard, Dark and Light, Pirates of The Burning Sea and DDO. All of whom can be considered rather huge failures in terms of hype pre-release versus success post-release. Ewl! I dont like fanboys too, but i dont like haters.
    All these games had huge followings of rabid fanboys that would burn alive any critic of the game no matter how sounds their arguments were. This trend has become painfully apparent in AoC and unfortunately, its due to these fanboys that would rather flame and troll then question the developers motives of not releasing a full scale NDA-free beta that will ultimately doom this game.
     Yeah a full, free-nda open beta will be good to have, it's what funcom should do.
     
     

    Well Im not a preorderer. Ill never peorder again, I was a vanguard preorder and I learned my lesson. Not cose of vanguard, just i learned you shouldnt put money on something you dont know. I learned too you should not have a positive or negative opinion about a product you dont know, the better players can do is wait, try, and decide. I just wanted to comment on your list of reasons cose they were interesting to read.



  • KilmarKilmar Member UncommonPosts: 844

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I'll immediately send my preorder back and I'll buy <insert your favorite game here>.

  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882
    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    "Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
    ^MMORPG.com

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

  • skepticalskeptical Member Posts: 357

    I don't think they are planning to drop the NDA from the closed beta at all. They will drop the NDA for the fileplanet beta after it starts but who cares what a bunch of fileplanet subscribers think of an intro/tutorial. That won't tell anyone anything.

  • A.BlacklochA.Blackloch Member UncommonPosts: 842
    C'mon now, you have to admit these are not Reasons to cancel a pre order. These are just your opinions filled with a good amount of bullshit. You cancel because you can't get into Beta? You cancel because Funcom first had some troubles with AO then pulled it off? NDAs and Beta leaks? Does it really matter if the NDA is still on since you obviously have your own sources where to get reviews from an unpolished game?
  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882
    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

    "Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
    ^MMORPG.com

  • gamedevergamedever Member Posts: 143

    Sure it will. Remember Tortage is multiplayer, and therefore a noob hub, so if the game lags it will lag there liek crazy. If not, then it means it is going to be a smooth ride for tortage at least.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by pirrg


    Nothing in the below post breaks the NDA in any shape or form, having said that, here are 10 reasons why you should cancel your pre-order ASAP.
     
     
    1. The so called "open beta" is infact a fileplanet subscriber exclusive.
    2. The open beta only allows you to get to level 13, which means you wont even get to the MMO part of the game. Might aswell be a singleplayer demo in that aspect.
    3. With less then a month left to release the NDA is STILL in effect.
    4. Online gaming sites have only been allowed to play under supervision and for a very limited amount of time, which effectively limits their reporting to whatever funcom wants them to report.
    5. Countless beta leaks on various forums (of which many are consistent with other leaks) stating a plethora of issues with the game and that it is not ready for release.
    6. Where are the ACTUAL siege movies? So far all weve seen are video demonstrations and not fraps recordings of two real beta guilds sieging it out. Not even a screenshot!
    7. Its funcom. Remember Anarchy Online? Dubbed by many to be the worst launch in MMO history(possibly rivaled by dark and light).
    8. Lucrative yet expensive pre-order deals (read: siege mounts) usually means the devs are out to make a quick buck before the shi* hits the storm (a'la dark and light).
    9. The amount of information released on one of the game's biggest selling points is vague at best, looking more like a showcase of its potential then what is actually implemented right now. Yes im talking about sieging.
    10. And last but not least, its fanboys. Ive noticed a trend in games that fail soon after release and that is; the crappier the game, the more rabid the fanboy. We saw this trend in Vanguard, Dark and Light, Pirates of The Burning Sea and DDO. All of whom can be considered rather huge failures in terms of hype pre-release versus success post-release.
    All these games had huge followings of rabid fanboys that would burn alive any critic of the game no matter how sounds their arguments were. This trend has become painfully apparent in AoC and unfortunately, its due to these fanboys that would rather flame and troll then question the developers motives of not releasing a full scale NDA-free beta that will ultimately doom this game.
     
     
     
    1, so?

    2, I'm not sure that matters. I don't look at it as a "hey, let's show you the whole game" type of event. There could be issues, sure, but I have no problem just accepting the lvl 13 cap. Shouldn't matter.

    3, So what? Other games have carried their NDA to pretty close before launch. And since it is in closed beta I don't see the issue. They can do what they want.

    4, Many companies work this way.

    5, There might be issues but until I see someone I know and trust make an informed statement I will hold my judgement. I've seen a lot of crying from people who I don't know and therefore have no basis as to whether or not their concerns are my concerns or if they are just whiners.

    6, That's a good point.

    7, No I don't. But I do see that there are a lot of people who pine for early AO days so they must have done something right.

    8, Meh, show me the chart that says a preorder has to have x and y at z price or else we are being scammed?

    9, Yes I suppose we should see more about sieging. However, Lineage 2 has sieging as a highlight and it wasn't implemented at launch so there is precedent.

    10. There are many people who are extremely emotional in arguing for the game. However I see just as many people arguing as loudly and emotionally against the game.

    Quite frankly I hope game companies learn from this and NOT give players anyt information until they are ready to launch as there seems to be a sense of entitlement that quite frankly is undeserved.

    True, games like Dark and Light and Vanguard have made players a bit jumpy but I tend to look at things that are solid.

    When the game is launched then I'll submit my judgment. I am a true believe in beta being beta. Once a game company says "here it is" then that is all that matters to me. I'm not going to go nuts over a beta or issues that quite frankly have nothing to do with me UNTIL I have spent my hard earned money. Once (if) they have my money and I feel that the money was not well spent then you will see me complain.

    But until that time I simply don't care.

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  • MehjrianMehjrian Member Posts: 127

    Stopped after the first one. Sigh.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371
    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

    Really do tell plz? I am also in the beta.

    Good for you. It s fact that i don t agree with you. Don t argue with me on my opinion because you can t win. I play it , enjoy it and feel it s not WOW even remotely close. If you feel it is i could care less. So hence i know for a fact it isn t to me. /sigh

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by aithieel


    Actually I'am not sure if I'll cancel my pre-order or not. I'll decide when I get into play at 1st May. Anyway I won't suggest topic like this (no, no no!) at my decision. Maybe some pepole expect too mutch from AoC? I just wanna give it a try and see that on my own.
    A.

    Ditto, i am on the fence, and will be using this FP OB as a gauge for myself.

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  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882
    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

    Really do tell plz? I am also in the beta.

    Good for you. It s fact that i don t agree with you. Don t argue with me on my opinion because you can t win. I play it , enjoy it and feel it s not WOW even remotely close. If you feel it is i could care less. So hence i know for a fact it isn t to me. /sigh

    Ok!

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  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

    Really do tell plz? I am also in the beta.

    Good for you. It s fact that i don t agree with you. Don t argue with me on my opinion because you can t win. I play it , enjoy it and feel it s not WOW even remotely close. If you feel it is i could care less. So hence i know for a fact it isn t to me. /sigh

    Ok!

    There we go :) Anyways i know some will feel that way about WAR nothing you can do about it, but as far as AOC goes it will not be for everyone for sure, that said OP is just rambling about really nothing and trying to cause shit:)

  • pixeldogmeatpixeldogmeat Member Posts: 441

    Wow you really really care about this don't you.

    You do realize it all means nothing?

    You're staring at a piece of plastic emitting light.

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  • MaselocMaseloc Member Posts: 175

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by aithieel


    Actually I'am not sure if I'll cancel my pre-order or not. I'll decide when I get into play at 1st May. Anyway I won't suggest topic like this (no, no no!) at my decision. Maybe some pepole expect too mutch from AoC? I just wanna give it a try and see that on my own.
    A.

    Ditto, i am on the fence, and will be using this FP OB as a gauge for myself.

     

    I'm doing the same.

  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882
    Originally posted by Leucent



    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999

    Originally posted by Leucent

    Originally posted by Punk999


    If only there was not an NDA i could explain how this is the first good mmo to release since WoW.
     
     
    OH well!

    Ya and of course the NDA drop will bring a ton of opposite posts as well. It s not for everyone hence why i said in my post IMO :)

    Same for WAR too unless ppl Want a WoW with more pvp.

    LOL, this i can assure you , you re wrong i know for a fact. The WOW part anyways

    Really do tell plz? I am also in the beta.

    Good for you. It s fact that i don t agree with you. Don t argue with me on my opinion because you can t win. I play it , enjoy it and feel it s not WOW even remotely close. If you feel it is i could care less. So hence i know for a fact it isn t to me. /sigh

    Ok!

    There we go :) Anyways i know some will feel that way about WAR nothing you can do about it, but as far as AOC goes it will not be for everyone for sure, that said OP is just rambling about really nothing and trying to cause shit:)

    Oh yeah i know for sure AoC wont be for everyone.

    "Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
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