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I got issued a warning for NDA violation.
Maseloc
Member Posts: 175
and I'm not even in the beta. Seriously how does that possibly happen?
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Perhaps reposting informaton that was "leaked" from a site that "leaks" "leak" information on beta..... leaks.
You musta said something...
In the post I made I even said that I was not in the beta. I said nothing wrong. I'm tempted to just repost it.
and there was no leaked info in my original post.
LOL, you didn't "sign" an agreement so can can't violate anything, NDA wise that is.
LOL, you didn't "sign" an agreement so can can't violate anything, NDA wise that is.
Thats exactly what I'm trying to say. and that was in the e-mail I sent back to them after I got warned...
haha thats happened to me before as well on this website. The mods act more or less on impulse, which is sadly not the best thing to do when in the hands of the few elitist and or childish mods they have on the forum.
Basically, if you even pretend like you know what you are talking about, they will give you a warning for a NDA violation. What they do not realize is that you actually have to agree and accept an No discloser agreement, emphasis on "agreement". It is impossible enforce on a forum unless you know who actually agreed to it and is participating in the said beta.
Then they should not hand out warnings and bans.
What part of the following sentence are you having difficulty understanding?
"*MMORPG.com does not permit users to post information on games still under an NDA. For more information about your specific game's NDA, please visit their official website."
Seems clear enough to me, don't post NDA material here. Whether you're bound by NDA or not.
Then they should not hand out warnings and bans.
hah, they dont care. Very rarely does the admin care or bother doing anything about what his little henchmen and women are doing on the forums. To put it bluntly, the problem with some mods is that at one point the get into the habit of actually looking for things they find wrong or excuses in which to act upon.
You get used to it on here though. MMORPG mods are a step up from the AoC mods, but sadly thats not saying much.
MMORPG.com doesnt know who is in beta's and who is not so what would stop every person posting nda breaks from saying "but I am not even in beta my mums new husband's son from his 3rd marrage has a friend that is and he told me"...in other words you get the warning for posting an nda break pure and simple.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Yep, thats it right there folks.
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You wouldn't understand
Whilst its true that you would have to be in beta to break the NDA, its also quite abundantly clear that you do not have to be in beta to post information that is in violation of the NDA, to this site (and all others) there is quite obviously no distinction (nor should there be).
However I think the point the OP was trying to make is that the information in their post did not break NDA, which tbh is between the mod and them.
edit: fuck me about 10 people were reading my mind then
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WOOO must have offended the fanboi's ! Did you say the game stinks LOL
I think you are not listening, I posted NO information about the game at all, I asked a question that I had come up with, nothing more.
Actually, you are wrong. The NDA policy MMORPG.com is enforcing is not Mythics, but their own. And they do not permit people to post information that violates Mythic's NDA policy no matter what the source.
They don't care if you never signed a NDA agreement, or looked over a friends shoulder, if it violates the NDA (or even appears to) then you will receive a warning.
Its their forum, so you have to live by their rules, and they most certainly can and do enforce it.
Once I got into CB, I stopped posting much of anything on these forums because I never really knew what was public knowledge, and what was still under NDA.
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The problem with that, is that it actually is NOT clear and a lot of official information has been given out, even about beta content. There are numerous official sources for this news, however, because you talk about it you are therefor allowed to be tagged as a NDA breaker.
The only way to actually break the NDA rule, even if you are not part of it, is to give information that is strictly about the current beta. For example "the latest beta patch totally made walking up slopes impossible" or "that buff they just gave the Chosen makes them over powered, it causes the other player to glitch out or die in one hit".
See those are specifics, and the whole point of why there is a NDA. Anyone can talk the talk, but its not breaking any NDA rules by doing so, especially given what the official sources have already given us.
The problem with that, is that it actually is NOT clear and a lot of official information has been given out, even about beta content. There are numerous official sources for this news, however, because you talk about it you are therefor allowed to be tagged as a NDA breaker.
Well if that's the case, a simple PM to the mod with a link to the source of information should clear things right up I would assume. Stop looking for excuses.
The problem with that, is that it actually is NOT clear and a lot of official information has been given out, even about beta content. There are numerous official sources for this news, however, because you talk about it you are therefor allowed to be tagged as a NDA breaker.
Well if that's the case, a simple PM to the mod with a link to the source of information should clear things right up I would assume. Stop looking for excuses.
Alternatively you post a link in your post to the official release and thus negating any misunderstanding, really not that difficult at all.
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Don't worry about it mate, I got a weeks ban from this site for insulting someones intelligence in response to them insulting me. They didn't get a ban so I suppose around here it's a case of he who reports 1st wins.
The problem with that, is that it actually is NOT clear and a lot of official information has been given out, even about beta content. There are numerous official sources for this news, however, because you talk about it you are therefor allowed to be tagged as a NDA breaker.
Well if that's the case, a simple PM to the mod with a link to the source of information should clear things right up I would assume. Stop looking for excuses.
My post contained a question that I hoped would be answered in a few hours when the NDA dropped, like many other posts, there was NO INFORMATION on the current state of beta or any information that any person not in the beta couldn't come up with.
Actually, you are wrong. The NDA policy MMORPG.com is enforcing is not Mythics, but their own. And they do not permit people to post information that violates Mythic's NDA policy no matter what the source.
They don't care if you never signed a NDA agreement, or looked over a friends shoulder, if it violates the NDA (or even appears to) then you will receive a warning.
Its their forum, so you have to live by their rules, and they most certainly can and do enforce it.
Once I got into CB, I stopped posting much of anything on these forums because I never really knew what was public knowledge, and what was still under NDA.
No im not wrong at all bud. They are enforcing Mythics NDA, though not official, that is the reason for their actions.
Again the problem here is, there is no clear line on what is covered in the NDA, especially given the information already available to the public via official resources. Unless you 1. mention that you are in the beta and or 2. post about something you see in the beta that is not public knowledge and given exact details (for example, information about a patch in the CB client) then you are not breaking any rules. No one should be punished for talking about the game with information they are either 1. Assuming or 2. Gleamed from official resources.
There is no real logical way to enforce this given what the NDA covers and what is already known.
I Thought the NDA dropped today. Does it not drop till later or something?
Like always for issues with moderation contact the community manager at community@mmorpg.com.
"*MMORPG.com does not permit users to post information on games still under an NDA. For more information about your specific game's NDA, please visit their official website."
Almost every thread in the WAR section of this forum breaks the rule.
They either need to change the wording or not a have a section for games with NDA's.
In fact I've just broken the rule merely by stating that there is an NDA on WAR.
Ridiculous.
I did, haven't heard back yet. but it still bothers me.