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Way too much drama. Let's just hope the game beta's and relese roll out and it provides a home for those who want this type of game, and for the others who feel the need to compare it to everything else out there well they can keep wasting their time thinking anyone on the internet gives a damn what they think, or remembers what they say for more than three minutes.
As I've said before in regards to DarkFall and the o.Os that dislike it... (Even though it isn't out in a playable form yet)...
Me and mine will find our way to DF, and I sincerely hope you nay sayers stay clear of it. As the game will not need its player base diluted with people that fear a challenging fight. Stick with WoW where you belong, thanks.
-Kin
Its already been in clan Beta for a long time. God some of you people are idiots. You deny anything positive about the game that is said, then when a single uncredible source says something bad, you instantly believe it. Wow....youre just as fanatical about opressing it as the people who support it.
Accept the fact that Darkfall will bring something much different to the MMO community than what has been recently presented by recent games.
Provided the promised features are included upon release, then it will be a great game.
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just because people dont buy the darkfall hype that you obviously have, doesn't mean they are wow players. i hate wow and have no interest in darkfall either. its just another fantasy mmo, no matter how you spin it. I'm sick of that genre of mmo.
just because people dont buy the darkfall hype that you obviously have, doesn't mean they are wow players. i hate wow and have no interest in darkfall either. its just another fantasy mmo, no matter how you spin it. I'm sick of that genre of mmo.
then why are you here?
The first thing I do when the game is released will be killing all the trolls.
I plan on trying the game out myself, of course, BUT...
I am not expecting half the things some of these guys are posting. No offense, but it's the exact same stuff people posted about DnL, about AoC, and a lot of other MMOs that just didn't deliver. My suspicion is that they will give something out, and it will contain new things, but remember...new does not always equal good, which is something many people seem to be forgetting...
Furthermore, I bet it will have lots of bugs, and I bet you that's going to push a lot of you who are rabid now into the "OMG, worst gaem evar" column.
Oh, and as to why we post here? Couple of reasons...some just like to troll, of course. For some others, I daresay it's because they don't want anyone new to be drawn in by all the hype, and thus want to provide a more moderate voice.
And yes...I will eat my words if the game comes out and it's everything people here said it would be.
All his hype is because we URGE a game that resemble UO gold age but modernized. THIS can be it. So, Its already the best game
Just more nonsense. Some of you would believe anything Adventurine says despite their past record of lies and deceit.
When a known journalist gets to play and report on the game, then you can say actually exists, until then it is still vaporware.
This.
I want this game to come out. But we've been fed videos.. every so often to keep the spirit alive. The game HAS to be amazing with this much Hype (in development for 8+ years??).. and now only moving to the closed beta? WTF? Sorry folks, until something gets leaked, a jouralist reports on it.. or someting else along those lines.....
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that has already happened... 2 years ago... wake up...
FYI, Aventurine haven't lied about anything yet. They have delivered on all official promises.
Your troll fails.
"FYI, Aventurine haven't lied about anything yet. They have delivered on all official promises."
Just where have you been? Two beta announcements that never happened, along with numerous other missed promises?
So what do you consider official? Let me clue you in, those speaking for Adventurine are masters at disinformation, they have been practicing for 7 years at it.
All we want is some proof because we can't trust what they say anymore. I will be clapping my hands if they actually deliever on a beta, as I too want to play the game they describe on their site.
Link me where they ever announce an official beta - ie: an official beta announcement. Link me the actual quotes for any broken promises you think they've made as well.
...the "lies" and "broken promises" argument is always due to idiots over-reading what they say. there's been no lies, cause i've read all their dev journals, multiple times, and there's nothing they've lied about.
feel free to prove me wrong though, but do it with actual quotes.
Get drawn in by the hype? They have said that they "want everyone to try the game before they pay any money for it." (paraphrased). If this is true than no-one will lose anything by trying this game. From what than would you be protecting them from?
Sorry, but you no longer have a legitimate excuse to post here. We will all miss you!
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
Get drawn in by the hype? They have said that they "want everyone to try the game before they pay any money for it." (paraphrased). If this is true than no-one will lose anything by trying this game. From what than would you be protecting them from?
Sorry, but you no longer have a legitimate excuse to post here. We will all miss you!
See, it's saying creepy zealot shit like that which is doing far more to put people off this game than any troll could manage. The Darkfall fan base really is its own worst enemy, painting themselves as a self-deluded shrill-voiced bunch who refuse to hear even moderate criticism of the way Aventurine conducts its business. If this is indicative of the sort of people who'll be drawn to the game...
It's an open forum so by definition everyone has a legitimate right (no need for an "excuse") to post here, so long as it's not in breach of the codes of conduct (which the above poster clearly was not).
Time and again the debate in the Darkfall forums boils down to one question: whether or not, given the general lack of convincing evidence, people are willing to believe Aventurine's claims that they will be able to release this game as promised after so many years in development. I make no secret of the fact that I do not, but given that it's such a subjective question and the answer will only be revealed by time, I just can't believe all the hostility such an opinion (which is all it is) seems to generate amongst Darkfallowers.
yeh urm...your all idiots...the game isnt OUT so wtf is the point in all this?
when the game is out, play it, makea judgement, then have fun defending or flaming it
until then you are all arguing on the internet about something that DOESNT EXIST YET
You are all idiots...
commence flaming me......now
(p.s. i am a fan of DF and i will be playing - doesnt mean DF fans here arnt idiots too)
Better question is, has 1 single person from MMORPG.com gotten a closed beta invite?
If not dont you find that a bit strange?
I mean there are at least several forum goers here that get into every closed beta for every game that has ever been released and noone from here got a closed beta invite?
....hmmmmmm
Get drawn in by the hype? They have said that they "want everyone to try the game before they pay any money for it." (paraphrased). If this is true than no-one will lose anything by trying this game. From what than would you be protecting them from?
Sorry, but you no longer have a legitimate excuse to post here. We will all miss you!
See, it's saying creepy zealot shit like that which is doing far more to put people off this game than any troll could manage. The Darkfall fan base really is its own worst enemy, painting themselves as a self-deluded shrill-voiced bunch who refuse to hear even moderate criticism of the way Aventurine conducts its business. If this is indicative of the sort of people who'll be drawn to the game...
It's an open forum so by definition everyone has a legitimate right (no need for an "excuse") to post here, so long as it's not in breach of the codes of conduct (which the above poster clearly was not).
Time and again the debate in the Darkfall forums boils down to one question: whether or not, given the general lack of convincing evidence, people are willing to believe Aventurine's claims that they will be able to release this game as promised after so many years in development. I make no secret of the fact that I do not, but given that it's such a subjective question and the answer will only be revealed by time, I just can't believe all the hostility such an opinion (which is all it is) seems to generate amongst Darkfallowers.
That was intended to be sarcastic.
I thought the second sentence and emote would have made this obvious. Sorry if it was misinterpreted.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
sarcasm in text form = 100% fail at all times
that has already happened... 2 years ago... wake up...
FYI, Aventurine haven't lied about anything yet. They have delivered on all official promises.
Your troll fails.
Perhaps you should "wake up". The two-year old article you cite is indeed from a fairly reputable source (Ten Ton Hammer) but it is not a (p)review of a game they have tried playing, or even seen being played (because as we now know, back in 2006 there was no game to play). It is a sit-down interview with silver-tongued Tasos who tell them what fantastic features will be in the game... just like every single other source of info about Darkfall. Once again, we're asked to believe the game will deliver all its features as promised because Flambouras told us to. Or because downtoearth waggles his virtual eyebrows and hints that he knows these people personally. (And I had to chuckle when they wrote "It has been in development for over 3 years and is getting close to a beta release.")
As for "they have delivered on all official promises" this is of course a pointless statement: they have made no 'official' promises, and they have `delivered' nothing, so while you can't really accuse them of being liars neither can you say that they have anything to show for the last 8 years of their lives. Which must be pretty depressing for them I guess...
I so badly want (as does everyone) this game to live up to the hype. i'm taking the good until proven rubbish approach. I NEED A BETA INVITE!!!!!!!
As for "they have delivered on all official promises" this is of course a pointless statement: they have made no 'official' promises, and they have `delivered' nothing, so while you can't really accuse them of being liars neither can you say that they have anything to show for the last 8 years of their lives. Which must be pretty depressing for them I guess...
No, not quite. They have delivered upon all promised screenshots.
Also, it is not pointless. Despite a long history of carefully avoiding promises so as not to break any, they have now announced not only a launch window without elusive wording attached, the beginning of a hardware beta, and partnerships with publishing companies (+1 self-pulblishing region). When you compare how careful they have been in the past to remain elusive, this new angle is actually quite promising. It shows that they are confident that they will be able to deliver. Well this is not a 100% guarantee, it is significant.
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.
I don't disagree with you, it does certainly seem like they're (finally) gearing up towards something more than the very little they've revealed so far. The odds seem pretty heavily stacked against it being a successful product though, or one which manages to deliver all (or even some) of the many many features they've been promising for so long.
But that doesn't mean that I'm actually hoping Darkfall will crash and burn - though the game doesn't appeal to me personally for a number of reasons (and no, I'm not a carebear), if it were to manage to launch even semi-successfully and retain just a modest fan base (sub-100K) it would send a positive message to other indie developers out there that it is possible to break the mould and achieve a respectable success in a niche market rather than trying to please everyone. Given the sorry, stagnant state of recent MMO releases this could only be a good thing.
Sadly I'm not particularly confident that Darkfall will achieve even this. The simple reality is that when someone has a fantastic product that does exactly what they're promising it does (as Tasos has claimed numerous times) they have no legitimate reason to hide it. Sure they don't believe in the 'hype machine', and they didn't want to waste their limited cash resources on publicity stuff rather than invest in further development. Fine and dandy, I can respect that. However, thanks to the very outspoken and excited (to use generous euphemisms) Darkfall fan base a huge amount of hype has been created completely independently of, perhaps even in spite of, Aventurine's efforts.
It's one thing to decide not to try to get attention for your product, but it's a completely different (and far more questionable) decision to more or less totally ignore that attention once it exists. It would have been so simple for Aventurine to have silenced all the doubters and the flamers any number of ways before now by providing credible evidence that their product works more or less as promised, at little or no cost to their integrity, intellectual property or financial position. But they have not. Time and again history has shown that the cloak of secrecy is thrown over such endeavours not to protect them from theft (since there's no way anyone could steal and implement their ideas quickly enough this far into the dev cycle), but rather to hide some glaring flaw(s).
So by all means carry on believing that Darkfall will somehow be the exception to this rule. Believe that the game will release this year (their first official promise), that it will be everything you've been told it will be, that Aventurine will somehow have the capacity to let everyone who wants try it for free do so, and that Tasos Flambouras is indeed the Luke Skywalker of the MMO industry bringing A New Hope in the battle against conservative design, mass marketing and corporate greed. I just don't happen to share your faith.
I don't disagree with you, it does certainly seem like they're (finally) gearing up towards something more than the very little they've revealed so far. The odds seem pretty heavily stacked against it being a successful product though, or one which manages to deliver all (or even some) of the many many features they've been promising for so long.
But that doesn't mean that I'm actually hoping Darkfall will crash and burn - though the game doesn't appeal to me personally for a number of reasons (and no, I'm not a carebear), if it were to manage to launch even semi-successfully and retain just a modest fan base (sub-100K) it would send a positive message to other indie developers out there that it is possible to break the mould and achieve a respectable success in a niche market rather than trying to please everyone. Given the sorry, stagnant state of recent MMO releases this could only be a good thing.
Sadly I'm not particularly confident that Darkfall will achieve even this. The simple reality is that when someone has a fantastic product that does exactly what they're promising it does (as Tasos has claimed numerous times) they have no legitimate reason to hide it. Sure they don't believe in the 'hype machine', and they didn't want to waste their limited cash resources on publicity stuff rather than invest in further development. Fine and dandy, I can respect that. However, thanks to the very outspoken and excited (to use generous euphemisms) Darkfall fan base a huge amount of hype has been created completely independently of, perhaps even in spite of, Aventurine's efforts.
It's one thing to decide not to try to get attention for your product, but it's a completely different (and far more questionable) decision to more or less totally ignore that attention once it exists. It would have been so simple for Aventurine to have silenced all the doubters and the flamers any number of ways before now by providing credible evidence that their product works more or less as promised, at little or no cost to their integrity, intellectual property or financial position. But they have not. Time and again history has shown that the cloak of secrecy is thrown over such endeavours not to protect them from theft (since there's no way anyone could steal and implement their ideas quickly enough this far into the dev cycle), but rather to hide some glaring flaw(s).
So by all means carry on believing that Darkfall will somehow be the exception to this rule. Believe that the game will release this year (their first official promise), that it will be everything you've been told it will be, that Aventurine will somehow have the capacity to let everyone who wants try it for free do so, and that Tasos Flambouras is indeed the Luke Skywalker of the MMO industry bringing A New Hope in the battle against conservative design, mass marketing and corporate greed. I just don't happen to share your faith.
First, I do not blindly believe that it will be everything that it has been hyped to be. I hope it is, but that is not faith. However, I have to disagree that secrecy means flaws that can not be corrected. Many times, people want the unveiling of something to be a big ceremony. This has happened at every birthday party I have ever been to. Also, Aventurine has poneyed up and pulled back the curtain a lot. If it is information you seek, search out the dev journals. If it is demonstration of functionality, then from what I understand, you need look no farther than the trailer. The community called for a demonstration of the combat system. This was the motivation for the focus of the trailer. Anyone saying that they focused on combat because they had nothing else is ignoring the fact that combat was what was asked for.
Also, if Aventurine delivers only a portion of their numerous feature list, they will still have an extremely successful niche game.
Finally, you really need to stop blindly beleiving every thing that the vapour trolls spew at you!
I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.