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Anyone still of the belief that Obama is going to lose?

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  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

    Well this came out today...more proof Obama can't sell his socialism even with $650 million bucks spent..

    (and you libs say repubs try to buy power lol)

     

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/Polls.aspx?id=309635713550536

     

    By the way, this pollster was the MOST accurate one in 2004. 

    It's a ONE POINT game now... with 11+% "undecided"

    you libs should panic now.

  • NarugNarug Member UncommonPosts: 756

    I think it's going to be hard for McCain to win based on the same party going a third term alone but I'm still pulling for McCain nevertheless.

    As Cabe brought up the "Joe the Plumber" incident I hope that allows the people to see Obama really isn't for the people. His VP's comments and their storm troopers err left media illuminated it further for me.

    I hope when people watch the brainwashed looking children on the videos they can see what kind of damage Socialism can bring.

    I hope people will value free thought, free trade, and not allow a Socialist goverment, which Obama and Pelosi would run, to think for them.

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  • NarugNarug Member UncommonPosts: 756
    Originally posted by DailyBuzz


    Talking about the 'liberal media' (aka 'media elite') seems to be a popular past time for conservatives. I wonder if the networks you listed have been branded with the term 'liberal' because of political coverage or if it's a religious thing. Perhaps, these networks don't mention Jesus or values enough, that could make them liberal. Perhaps conservatives use the term 'elite' because reporters have college degrees and speak with a certain eloquance not taught in high school.


    Makes you wonder.



     

    If you can't see the liberial bias, especially at NBC err Obama headquarters, then you should really look at the stats Fox had illimunating the percentage of negative coverage between the two camps.

    I have a degree of higher education thank you and you'll find Republicans can obtain them too. Anyway since you have to paint Republicans as intellectually inadequate I find it funny how they have money because they're responsible in their actions.

    You can't claim automatic intellectual superiority by saying the other side is lacking. Intelligence is measured by more than degrees and I'd say the current tests don't pan out in believibility towards that measure of intelligence in any case.

    Makes you wonder about the liberals instead.

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  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    i have a feeling that in about 8-10 days alot of those early voters are going to wish they had waited.

    but its just a feeling.

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    Originally posted by Gorair


    i have a feeling that in about 8-10 days alot of those early voters are going to wish they had waited.
    but its just a feeling.
     

     

    Why do you think Obama's camp has been pushing early voting so much? 

     

    I haven't heard much from the McCain camp about getting in there and voting now, but Obama sure is trying to get votes right away. 

     

    It is almost like he knows something is coming that might hurt his campaign. 

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  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396

    So remember DO NOT VOTE.

    Actually voting would be evidence of a lack of faith in the destiny of Master Obama and of his power as a transformative figure. To go to a polling place and cast a ballot would indicate that you do not believe completely in the absolute determination of the Universe to place not just the United States but the entire planet under the care of the Ascended Master Barack.

    Remember Bodhisattva Barack does not need or want your vote. What Bodhisattva Barack requires is your absolute and unquestioning faith and obedience. Bodhisattva Barack does not practice the Old Piscean Age politics which required the "consent of the governed". Bodhisattva Barack practices the Aquarian Age politics of transformation and rebirth.

    One does not "vote" for Bodhisattva Barack any more than a caterpillar votes to enter its cocoon and emerge a Butterfly. The caterpillar simply does what it must as the planet will do what it must now that Bodhisattva Barack has risen like the sun to bring about the World Collective.

    So remember again DO NOT VOTE.

    To vote would be to insult Master Obama by implying that he lacks the power to fulfill his destiny without your help. Instead of voting spend every possible moment of every day between now and election day and all of election day in prayer. Not praying FOR Master Obama but praying TO Master Obama.

    Do this and the God of This World will receive you into his warm embrace where you will reside for all eternity.

     

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  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    it almost seems as if the Dems want to ride his popularity into control , but they really dont plan on having him there the entire time or something.

    Ive have never seen anything like this , rememebr when you are rushed you make mistakes so why the call all of a sudden to rush?

    why now , right now! not tomorrow now!

    just seems weird , but im a suspicious kind guy by nature so it could just be a tinfoil hat moment or something. But still this feelling wont go away.

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by Gorair


    it almost seems as if the Dems want to ride his popularity into control , but they really dont plan on having him there the entire time or something.
    Ive have never seen anything like this , rememebr when you are rushed you make mistakes so why the call all of a sudden to rush?
    why now , right now! not tomorrow now!
    just seems weird , but im a suspicious kind guy by nature so it could just be a tinfoil hat moment or something. But still this feelling wont go away.
     

    Gorair that was vary astute.

     

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  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952
    Originally posted by frodus

    Originally posted by Gorair


    it almost seems as if the Dems want to ride his popularity into control , but they really dont plan on having him there the entire time or something.
    Ive have never seen anything like this , rememebr when you are rushed you make mistakes so why the call all of a sudden to rush?
    why now , right now! not tomorrow now!
    just seems weird , but im a suspicious kind guy by nature so it could just be a tinfoil hat moment or something. But still this feelling wont go away.
     

    Gorair that was vary astute.

     

    Why rush? Because most people already know who they are going to vote for. Those who don't are the undecided voters. I mean, it's not like you guys are going to suddenly see something that will make you change your vote from McCain to Obama. Is there any chance that any of you guys would vote for Obama, honestly?

    Yeah, that's what I thought. We feel the same way about McCain.

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959
    Originally posted by Slythe

    Originally posted by frodus

    Originally posted by Gorair


    it almost seems as if the Dems want to ride his popularity into control , but they really dont plan on having him there the entire time or something.
    Ive have never seen anything like this , rememebr when you are rushed you make mistakes so why the call all of a sudden to rush?
    why now , right now! not tomorrow now!
    just seems weird , but im a suspicious kind guy by nature so it could just be a tinfoil hat moment or something. But still this feelling wont go away.
     

    Gorair that was vary astute.

     

    Why rush? Because most people already know who they are going to vote for. Those who don't are the undecided voters. I mean, it's not like you guys are going to suddenly see something that will make you change your vote from McCain to Obama. Is there any chance that any of you guys would vote for Obama, honestly?

    Yeah, that's what I thought. We feel the same way about McCain.



     

    he dropsthe cant work  universal health care and decide not to punish people for having drive and ability BOOM i vote for him... but im not voting McCain either.mcCain will ruin us too it will just take 15 years longer.

    Both are .... i cant even be nice about it anymore, shitstains on the drawers of America.

    I refuse to pick my next and possibly last presidential candidate on lesser of two evils ballot, i done that last 3 times.

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • DailyBuzzDailyBuzz Member Posts: 2,306
    Originally posted by Gorair


    it almost seems as if the Dems want to ride his popularity into control , but they really dont plan on having him there the entire time or something.
    Ive have never seen anything like this , rememebr when you are rushed you make mistakes so why the call all of a sudden to rush?
    why now , right now! not tomorrow now!
    just seems weird , but im a suspicious kind guy by nature so it could just be a tinfoil hat moment or something. But still this feelling wont go away.
     

     

    You people still don't get it. Obama has been popular since 2004. It's not as though he's going to lose popularity overnight. Obama pushes early voting because his goal has always been to get people involved in the process. That's why he became a community organizer.

    The massive turnout you will see from democrats this election will be too much for polling places to accomodate. Any person that votes early is one that won't show up to the lines on the 4th then turn and walk away. Of course, that isn't as exciting as some half baked conspiracy theory, so I'm sure you'll carry on with the hairbrained chatter.

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    we do get it .

    he is popular because he is handing out money , not because he is the messia or has new ideas ( not one of his is new  or original and most have alerady been tried and failed).

    Hell if he was giving me free shit and telling me to sit on my ass,  i would like him too, but no, he is tellnig me to keep up the good work and pay for those people who wont.

    i dont have a theory i said i have a feeling ... why is it a democrat doesnt get those?

    AND i stated it could be a huge tinfoil hat moment too , because hey we all have one of those every so often.

    anywho...

    i just really thinhk in 8-10 days alot of people are going to regret their votes.

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • OpticaleyeOpticaleye Member Posts: 498

    I think its going to be quite close.

    Nobody should give any polls a bit of notice.We have seen this backfire on election night news coverage several times.

    The fact of the matter is that for the 1st time in American politics race WILL play a role no matter what.Democrats deny it even though they call it a "historic" election well why is it just not another election?

    When it comes down to it i can bet ya that there is still a segment of society who like Obama's ideas they just cant get past the skin color.This will be a deciding factor.(personally i think the guy reeks of marxism)

    Personally i think both choices are so bad im moving my money overseas for the next 5 years.

    I cant believe in a country so large there are only 2 people deemed worthy of the oval office.We have all been fooled once again.

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912

    Obama will win simply because Palin fucked any chance of McCain ever getting elected. And now there is already speculation ( including many  among the Republican party itself wanting her to run ) that the reason she sits and disagrees with McCain (openly ) is so when they lose, she can say "It wasn't my fault." when she runs for election in 2012. Fuckin' morons are already printing up "Palin for President 2012" stickers and shit.

    So expect the Republican ticket to already be a losing option in 2012.

    Hopefully a real showstopper Independent will show up to go against Obama in 2012 or we'll be stuck with his ignorant ass for 8 years.

    Here's to hoping the Mayans were right about 2012.....

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    Obama will win simply because Palin fucked any chance of McCain ever getting elected. And now there is already speculation ( including many  among the Republican party itself wanting her to run ) that the reason she sits and disagrees with McCain (openly ) is so when they lose, she can say "It wasn't my fault." when she runs for election in 2012. Fuckin' morons are already printing up "Palin for President 2012" stickers and shit.
    So expect the Republican ticket to already be a losing option in 2012.
    Hopefully a real showstopper Independent will show up to go against Obama in 2012 or we'll be stuck with his ignorant ass for 8 years.
    Here's to hoping the Mayans were right about 2012.....

     

    If McCain loses, and he probably will, it'll have othing to do with Sarah Palin. It'll have to do with republicans screwing up, Bush and all, by spending like Democrats over the past eight years. The Liberal George Bush divided the party and paved the way for a loser like McCain to win the nomination.

    McCain then went for the socialist bailout, which further separated him from the base. He then came up with his crazy socialist housing scam, and that hurt him more.

    He also screwed up with Palin by handing her to the same idiots who managed George Bush.

    He ran a campaign for morons in a year where the democrats fielded the worst candidate in their history. Obama will win, he'll raise taxes, throwing us into the worst economic mess since Carter. he will lose the congress in two years, and the White House to either Palin/Jindal or Patreus, or some combination of them.

    There are no showstopper independents. Independents only elect Democrats. It's republicans who don't like government in general, so they are the ones who vote for independents. The democrats always vote for the democrat. Only a strong green helps Republicans, since they are the party of even bigger government than the democrats.

  • LibertasplzLibertasplz Member Posts: 221

    Early voting is definitely making a comeback by McCain more difficult by the day.  He needs something substantial to happen in the next week.  The longer it goes the larger the event will have to be.

    By all accounts McCain has already lost approximately .5% from early voting.  If this keeps up he could be down 1-1.5% before the regular polls even open. 

     

  • LibertasplzLibertasplz Member Posts: 221

    To reiterate the point:

    McCain has to come back and win EACH of these toss-up states that he is currently losing in: 

    Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, Missouri, Nevada

    Next, he has to swing back key states leaning towards Obama: 

    Ohio (up 6.6 points) and Colorado (up 5.4 points).  Realize in Ohio Obama has brought about perhaps the largest grassroots vote early campaign in the history of US elections and might have as much as a 1 point lead there already. 

    That still leaves Obama with 277 electoral votes.  McCain would have to pick off one of these also:

    Virginia (Obama is up 7 points) or Pennsylvania (Obama is up 11 points).

    Pragmatically McCain will likely need Pennsylvania to cover the loss of one of the previous 7 states (and he has to win Ohio and Florida obviously).

    He is running out of time and fast.

  • flainusflainus Member Posts: 75

    The me who hears what the other me can't, is the dominant one.

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  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by Thrakk






     

    Oh, man. lol

    Those guys in the back look like the poster children for inbreeding.

    And what the hell happened to Cindy? She used to be hot not even a year ago, now she looks like a grandma with a bad blonde dye job.

  • qazymanqazyman Member Posts: 1,785

    I think it would be extremely difficult for any republican to win after the last eight years. Kinda feel sorry for John McCain, he deserved better than that. The best they can probably do is not loose total control of congress.

    BTW to the post about Gore and Kerry being ahead and losing, thats not true. Gore won the election and Kerry was behind all the way. The polls have been pretty accurate.

    Truthfully, I just wanted to post under that Sig.

    And to Gorair who wrote this "we do get it   he is popular because he is handing out money"

    That's pretty funny, nobody has handed out more money than big W. and it hasn't done a whole lot for him.

     

  • LisaUberfrauLisaUberfrau Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by Libertasplz


    I'm not saying that Obama WILL win...as anything is possible.  However, who here still thinks that Obama is likely to lose or has a solid chance of losing? 
    The numbers don't lie...Obama's lead is substantial and he is absolutely destroying the early vote polls.
     
     



     

    The polls had Gore up this much or more 8 years ago.  ditto for Kerry this time 4 years ago.

    the polls don't mean shit.

     

    I believe that there is NO WAY Obama can win, and that McCain win will by a pretty good margin.  Why?  I don't think that ANY of the polls are accurate.  I believe that too many people are hiding the fact that, even if claiming to be Liberal, they are not going to vote for Obama.  Even in a poll, I believe they would lie.  Why?  Well some people are not being truthful about their choice, and that's very probably because of the reason WHY they made their choice.  Lie, even in a poll, because someone might ask them to tell why and then they couldn't do it.

    Here's what I see that I don't think others are taking into consideration:



    1.  Palin/Woman Voters - there are plenty of women out there, not just feminists and lesbians, that would love to see a woman in such a prominent position.  They know what I know, that women are still not treated as good as men are.  So I believe that some women, even if they are Liberals, know that having a woman in office would be of better benefit to them.



    2.  Race Voters - Yes, I'll say it.  Racists do exist, even though I am not one.  There are some people that would not like a non-caucasian president, even if they claim to be Liberal.  Plus, we have an entire generation of older, senior adults that grew up during a time where african-americans were not held in such high standards.  My grandmother who's 84 has told me plenty of bad stories about how some were treated when she was a child.  So, the racists and older americans just might not vote for obama simply because of his race, and again, it will not matter if they consider themselves to be Liberals or not.



    3.  Liars/Politically Correct Voters - there are tons of people who only 'go along with the group', who would never want to cause waves and just keep everyone happy.  I believe there are plenty of people 'pretending' to be Liberals because of the stigma associated right now with being anything else.  But when they start pushing buttons on the voting machine, knowing that their votes are anonymous, they will vote for the other side.   (I used to know a person like this, and I KNOW that he wasn't the only one guilty of this..plenty more like him out there.)

     

    4.  Stupid/Lazy Voters - there are those that will put signs in their yards and bumper stickers on their cars, and then, will not pull their asses up off the sofa and bother to go vote.  So the number of actual voters will be much smaller than those that claim to be Liberals.

     

    GO OUT AND VOTE!  I stood in line for an hour last Tuesday and early voted!  It was one of the best spent hours of my life! 

    So get out and vote, or keep your damn mouth shut when things don't turn out later like you wanted!







     

  • SigneSigne Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,524
    Originally posted by qazyman


    I think it would be extremely difficult for any republican to win after the last eight years. Kinda feel sorry for John McCain, he deserved better than that. The best they can probably do is not loose total control of congress.
    BTW to the post about Gore and Kerry being ahead and losing, thats not true. Gore won the election and Kerry was behind all the way. The polls have been pretty accurate.
    Truthfully, I just wanted to post under that Sig.
    And to Gorair who wrote this "we do get it   he is popular because he is handing out money"
    That's pretty funny, nobody has handed out more money than big W. and it hasn't done a whole lot for him.

     

     

    Oh, I don't about that.  Today, it seems, the US briefly invaded Syria.  If Bush can quickly turn that into a full fledged declared war, McCain might have a chance.  Uh oh.

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by LisaUberfrau  

     
     
    GO OUT AND VOTE!  I stood in line for an hour last Tuesday and early voted!  It was one of the best spent hours of my life!  


    Huh?

    You only voted once?

    What kind of a lazy ass are you?

    Everybody in Chicago votes at least three times, even the deaders!

     

     

  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186
    Originally posted by Signe


    Oh, I don't about that.  Today, it seems, the US briefly invaded Syria.  If Bush can quickly turn that into a full fledged declared war, McCain might have a chance.  Uh oh.

     

    I admit, I LoL'd. But seriously, no. McCain is running one of the worst campaigns in history, and the economy is in crap-shape. AND he is running after Bush, who might be the worst president in history. I don't need polls to tell me which way the wind is blowing.

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