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Mortal Online doing what Darkfall fails to do right (for many years)
AmazingAvery
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There are many similarities between Darkall and Mortal Online, premise, gameplay design elements etc etc.
There is one thing that MO is doing better than Darkfall in terms of similar development timeline.
Mortal Online was only officially announced back in April this year and they have had the TV camera's in the dev studio already! Can you believe it?
Some might argue that DF is doing things the right way, but I for one hate all the "is it?" isn't it?" mumbo. Sure it's Adverturine's prerogative to go about how they want to, but in my opinion this is an excellent start and omen for MO and StarVault long may it continue. I think it's good that DF is now taking steps to be more open mind you. But in essence this goes some way to stamp out similar claims of non existance.
Sure it's in Swedish and local, but StarVault weren't shy in being open about talking about their game.
It's a small video clip and can be seen here: svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp or if that link doesn't work svt.se/play
As it is in Swedish a couple of guys on MO forums have briefly translated to roughly:
"First the reporter just said that they are making an mmorpg, and said what an mmo was. Later they said that it aint like WoW, that it is more free. And lastly they said that they aren't affected by the economics crisis since they plan to release the game themselves and don't have a publisher" "Well the reporter did say something like "The game is a mmo bla bla where thousands of people play with - or against each other online, kinda like the popular game World of Warcraft, but that is where the similarities end." So they referred to WoW, but not much"
"-The game Mortal Online is just now under development in a small office in central Malmö.
Its a so called MMORPG game where millions of people will be able to play with and against each other in a world filled with monsters and fantasy creatures, just like you would in World of Warcraft. But the resemblances from that game stops here.
-I would say that Mortal Online have a wider range of freedom that other games may have, and we believe that we will with that capure a lot of players that would like that sort of thing. Not being forced to follow a certain path, but be free to make your own path thats not directed to you from the game developers.
-The developers lack a distributor, but instead of that they get their fundings from making the game them selfs and giving the game out via the internet.
Something that may be a good thing as the distributors usually are somewhat strickt with their money and the law somethng something can be a pain in the ass (no the same words, but I couldnt find a way to say it)
-Something something we don't need to have/get those crisis that others go through since we will destribute our game our selfs.... something.... ....
As I'm from Norway, its kind hard to understand the last guy (Henrik?) as he got some crazy sweeding accent. ^^
Not word for word, but almost I guess."
I think it's a great inital start for the decent flow of information. Not to mention they went to Leipzig this year with a demo! In addition to them setting up an official IRC channel too, where one of the guys there said they are looking to enter the next stage of beta end of November 
Yes this game does exist.
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Not letting you disappointed, but first thoughts and plans about MO started on 2002y. DFo didn't have really much in 2002. I've got nothing against DFo, cause i think it's gonna be great sandbox game. The more success it achieves, the better for MO, and future sandbox games like earth rise.
U mentioned beta ? :>
Well.. there are some rumors about playable alpha at the end of november. But ... don't say that loud
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Doesn't matter. Darkfall will be released before MO.
^^^^ lol ok hope you are right for all the defender's of darkfall sake.
Don't get me wrong I think DF will be a good game, a lot of disillusioned forumfaller's are present on Mortal Online boards. But this is not essentially about DF, it's about doing the right thing for the fans. MO is doing great so far and their openess is refreshing.
Totally agree. I hate the lack of information from Aventurine.
I'm waiting for DF and MO, but DF will be out soon and unless it fails or MO offers more features I don't see why people would play MO over DF,
I can't shake the feeling off that there's something just not right in MO, maybe it's the cinematic video, I usually get de-hyped when a developer takes a week off just to make cartoon movie, instead of developing the game.
I really, really hope MO will be a huge success and actually comes out in the next year or two, all these themepark idiotgrinders make me sick.
I have more faith in Star Vault as they seem to be much more professional than Aventurine. Not only are they doing great with communicating their progress, they also have an attractive website with up-to-date, detailed and organized information on the game. The best part is that they're starting a normal development testing cycle (Alpha/Beta); none of this testing through "advanced AI" and "professional testers". Overall they actually seem to know what they're doing, which is more than I can say for Aventurine. I'm still looking forward to Darkfall though, of course.
However, I'm concerned about this summer 2009 release date. It does not sound very realistic to me considering their current progress.
I think that the summer release is possible, but definitely a little "ify". Everything is going according to schedule for them, however who knows how many bugs will arrise and how long it will take to work out the kinks of the game. I would guess that Star Vault would rather push back the release date than have it be too soon and not ready for the public.
We shall see what happens though.
All I assess on this subject is that MOs existence is more tangible than DFs.
I'm hoping something like them or the games themselves will hurry up and come out so that I can try a modern MMO with no levels and such
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How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
From what we have heard from the Dev team, there is a whole lot more finished than they are letting the public know about.
They are trying to keep Hype down, and reduce the amount of content they can't deliver, by not telling us about it.
I would rather not know about something, and have it not happen. Then know about something amazing, and then have it not work.
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
Err, not sure who said this one, but...
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Believing != Knowing. One can believe something that isn't known to be true or exist.
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
I agree.
~Sarkai
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
Err, not sure who said this one, but...
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Believing != Knowing. One can believe something that isn't known to be true or exist.
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
Hey Doobster no offense but, I directed these to the OP. Thank you for explaining that believing !=Knowing though. Seriously though your right you can believe something that doesn't exist. What I meant to say was
How can you Know Darkfall is going to be a good game after all the previous comments you have made bashing this game and your comments questioning it's existance?
~Sarkai
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
That's actually pretty easy to answer.
Millions of people 'believe' that there's some dude up in the sky who decides who will get immortal life and who will rot.
There's a bunch of those guys and 'believing' in them doesn't not make it the truth.
and by that logic Mo is a really bad game too, since it's not released. But who knows, maybe it sucks.
It's pretty easy to believe, knowing is kinda difficult.
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
Err, not sure who said this one, but...
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Believing != Knowing. One can believe something that isn't known to be true or exist.
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
Hey Doobster no offense but, I directed these to the OP. Thank you for explaining that believing !=Knowing though. Seriously though your right you can believe something that doesn't exist. What I meant to say was
How can you Know Darkfall is going to be a good game after all the previous comments you have made bashing this game and your comments questioning it's existance?
~Sarkai
Hey Sarkai, I realize that you didn't direct it at me, and I've read the sentence you've quoted and even went back and re-read the entire OP and still cannot find the place where he said he knew it was going to be good or that he knew it wasn't going to come out. Sounds like he said he was skeptical yet hopeful. Maybe there is some sort of ongoing thing you were commenting about, in which case I really haven't a clue becasue I don't come here often or keep tabs on different posters.
Cheers
they are very open in irc about things too, and the developers themselves communicate *ALOT* with us. they talk to us like they're normal people and not robots like most development studios.
I would be very impressed if this were the case. It would be a huge change from all of the previous and anticipated let-downs. Smart move - don't let the hype destroy the game.
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game when you don't believe it exists?
Err, not sure who said this one, but...
How can you believe Darkfall is a good game if it's not released?
Believing != Knowing. One can believe something that isn't known to be true or exist.
Answer these pls OP.
~Sarkai
Hey Doobster no offense but, I directed these to the OP. Thank you for explaining that believing !=Knowing though. Seriously though your right you can believe something that doesn't exist. What I meant to say was
How can you Know Darkfall is going to be a good game after all the previous comments you have made bashing this game and your comments questioning it's existance?
~Sarkai
Hey Sarkai, I realize that you didn't direct it at me, and I've read the sentence you've quoted and even went back and re-read the entire OP and still cannot find the place where he said he knew it was going to be good or that he knew it wasn't going to come out. Sounds like he said he was skeptical yet hopeful. Maybe there is some sort of ongoing thing you were commenting about, in which case I really haven't a clue becasue I don't come here often or keep tabs on different posters.
Cheers
It's ongoing and he said in my qoute that he thinks the game is going to be good. In other threads he is known to question the games existance. I'm done with this thread now.
~Sarkai
I must agree with avery on this one they are alot more open than aventurine about information and from a "veteran" mmo gamer point of view it does seem credible but ofc this does not make it credible there have been terrible scams out there with bigger promises and showcases but if not then they had a good start in my book.
On a side not just have been speaking with a couple of my guild mates who are swedish and apparently MO has been sold a couple of times already due to financial problems so it could be that starvault bought it recently to continue development and it is finally starting to see the light of day? I cant confirm this so if you have any information please feel free to correct me.
This looks like a proper game by a professional company. Compare the DF website with the MO one for instance. Everything about DF's development is shabby and unclear. And don't bet on seeing DF release before this!
I would basically bet anything against you and offer you 5:1 odds that DF releases before MO.
But you are a known troll so i know you will never actually follow up your nonsense. Should be easy money right?
Anyways MO has a lot to prove...but definitely is a promising game, but has a long way to go and wont be making summer 09.
Good fall back game if DF doesn't release well, even if it doesn't offer as much.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
I would basically bet anything against you and offer you 5:1 odds that DF releases before MO.
But you are a known troll so i know you will never actually follow up your nonsense. Should be easy money right?
Anyways MO has a lot to prove...but definitely is a promising game, but has a long way to go and wont be making summer 09.
Good fall back game if DF doesn't release well, even if it doesn't offer as much.
No YOU are the troll, if you havent realized yet, going through every thread telling people on your bets and how DF is more credible bla bla bla... these boards were just opened, already a damn DF fanboi preaching out how MO has alot to prove ironic isnt it.
No one cares about your bets people are expressing their views on the current state and this company sure does feel alot more credible than aventurine ever was.
/off before a legion of DF fanbois start coming in here preaching about how their game is the end of all things and Tasos is the son of Zeus.
I would basically bet anything against you and offer you 5:1 odds that DF releases before MO.
But you are a known troll so i know you will never actually follow up your nonsense. Should be easy money right?
Anyways MO has a lot to prove...but definitely is a promising game, but has a long way to go and wont be making summer 09.
Good fall back game if DF doesn't release well, even if it doesn't offer as much.
No YOU are the troll, if you havent realized yet, going through every thread telling people on your bets and how DF is more credible bla bla bla... these boards were just opened, already a damn DF fanboi preaching out how MO has alot to prove ironic isnt it.
No one cares about your bets people are expressing their views on the current state and this company sure does feel alot more credible than aventurine ever was.
/off before a legion of DF fanbois start coming in here preaching about how their game is the end of all things and Tasos is the son of Zeus.
Wow anger issues.
Sorry but MO does have a lot to prove. Im all about MO and couldnt be happier that more companies arent moving towards this type of game and breaking the snorefest WoW clone trend.
Just common sense man. Calm down its just video games. You are way more invested than I ever will be with how you react.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
It is good they are more active and open with their community. Still too bad they are focused on ffa pvp only, but that is the niche market they are shooting for. I wish them all the luck in the world.