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Or they can just move it. ; )
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Operative words here being "history" and "in the name of". Neither Christianity nor Islam espouse those values. To blame the good women in the local church chorus for all the atrocities of history is an injustice to them, their religion and historical truth.
Banning the words Gay and Lesbian removes the ability of any punk to use them and adds a permaban to him for avoiding the word filter if he tries. In that it also prevents discussion of a divisive topic irrelevant to the forums purpose it's a GOOD THING not an attack against freedom. I don't see anyone petitioning in favor of allowing the word "fuckwit" because it prevents fuckwits from discussing how oppressed they are. I guess it pays to be part of a substantial perpetually offended group of people who view everything as a slight no matter how it was meant. You have your symbolic victory but it will be Pyhrric because not only will you be subjected to the abuse by the punks you abhor you'll be reviled for enabling them and causing moderators to be overwhelmed at times with useless work cleaning up after your misapplied principles. GG
If straights weren't also a perpetually offended group who also see everything non-straight as a slight against humanity, this wouldn't be a topic of discussion in the first place. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
That's why I prefer to play RP servers to be honest... I just wish more games had them AND enforced the "rules".
I live in the "real world" and have to hear about the GM bailout and Baseball players using "performance enhancing drugs" all the time.
I play games because they are "fun" and don't invovle the BS of "real life".... and I really don't see why people have this need to bring the other crap into a place that shouuld be an escape from it.
Later in this thread someone makes their wonderful assessment of how this all could be a non factor... My personal view is if everyone checked their baggage at the door.. it would be a non factor regardless. There really should be an off topic area for things like this.
OR they should filter all "non topic" discussion because there are plenty of forums where you can talk about Cars, Baseball and the various other topics. Why are these even something you would talk about on a ToR forum or any game that isn't about them?
Operative words here being "history" and "in the name of". Neither Christianity nor Islam espouse those values. To blame the good women in the local church chorus for all the atrocities of history is an injustice to them, their religion and historical truth.
Banning the words Gay and Lesbian removes the ability of any punk to use them and adds a permaban to him for avoiding the word filter if he tries. In that it also prevents discussion of a divisive topic irrelevant to the forums purpose it's a GOOD THING not an attack against freedom. I don't see anyone petitioning in favor of allowing the word "fuckwit" because it prevents fuckwits from discussing how oppressed they are. I guess it pays to be part of a substantial perpetually offended group of people who view everything as a slight no matter how it was meant. You have your symbolic victory but it will be Pyhrric because not only will you be subjected to the abuse by the punks you abhor you'll be reviled for enabling them and causing moderators to be overwhelmed at times with useless work cleaning up after your misapplied principles. GG
If straights weren't also a perpetually offended group who also see everything non-straight as a slight against humanity, this wouldn't be a topic of discussion in the first place. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
But you are buying into the exact same thing he is talking about.
"Straights" aren't a perpetually offended group. There are people who are straight who are perpetually offended and in some cases seek to inflict their views on others but by no means does that mean everyone who is straight does this.
People need to start paying attention to own their business and stop pushing their views on others.
It's like that recent beauty pageant contestant who was asked whether she believed in gay marriage and she replied that though she was glad that strides were being made for people who wanted gay marriage, she personally didn't believe in it.
Well that should be ok. Why should she change her views and beliefs so long as she is not inflicting them on others. Forcing her to believe anything else is just as bad as saying that people who are gay are wrong and evil (my opinion).
But it seems that some members in the gay community lambasted her for that. Well, it runs both ways.
I am all for everyone believing whatever they want. That is what we strive for in a democracy/free society in any event. However, people tend to forget that a free society means that on all sides of the fence we are going to be faced with things that will make us uncomfortable.
There are of course exceptions. It's a very difficult balancing act. And people don't make it easy.
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Operative words here being "history" and "in the name of". Neither Christianity nor Islam espouse those values. To blame the good women in the local church chorus for all the atrocities of history is an injustice to them, their religion and historical truth.
Banning the words Gay and Lesbian removes the ability of any punk to use them and adds a permaban to him for avoiding the word filter if he tries. In that it also prevents discussion of a divisive topic irrelevant to the forums purpose it's a GOOD THING not an attack against freedom. I don't see anyone petitioning in favor of allowing the word "fuckwit" because it prevents fuckwits from discussing how oppressed they are. I guess it pays to be part of a substantial perpetually offended group of people who view everything as a slight no matter how it was meant. You have your symbolic victory but it will be Pyhrric because not only will you be subjected to the abuse by the punks you abhor you'll be reviled for enabling them and causing moderators to be overwhelmed at times with useless work cleaning up after your misapplied principles. GG
well said, agree with you 100%
I agree with you...
... in the end, most arguments against christianity are related to protestant and catholic history.
Even with all the historical destructive moments and hypocrisy of these institutions, they were important to cultural development and society.
There is a misunderstandment that those institutions have their base into pacifism, they dont have, although pure christianity has.
In my opinion, this thread is an example of generalization and judgment from all sides.
"Homosexual hidden agenda", "religion is always negative" are expressions that show only the limited knowledge the antagonic side has about its "enemies".
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Operative words here being "history" and "in the name of". Neither Christianity nor Islam espouse those values. To blame the good women in the local church chorus for all the atrocities of history is an injustice to them, their religion and historical truth.
Banning the words Gay and Lesbian removes the ability of any punk to use them and adds a permaban to him for avoiding the word filter if he tries. In that it also prevents discussion of a divisive topic irrelevant to the forums purpose it's a GOOD THING not an attack against freedom. I don't see anyone petitioning in favor of allowing the word "fuckwit" because it prevents fuckwits from discussing how oppressed they are. I guess it pays to be part of a substantial perpetually offended group of people who view everything as a slight no matter how it was meant. You have your symbolic victory but it will be Pyhrric because not only will you be subjected to the abuse by the punks you abhor you'll be reviled for enabling them and causing moderators to be overwhelmed at times with useless work cleaning up after your misapplied principles. GG
well said, agree with you 100%
And yet if it wasn't for radical behavior and loud mothed individuals like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, Women's Activists and Gay Rights Activists, then we wouldn't have the progress we have today, nor would we ever see any progress at all. Being silent or silencing the Words that represent us is exactly the wrong way to bring about change. I stand by my principles because it's the right thing to do. I apply those principles to everything in my life, so it would be impossible to "misapply" them.
I won't be silent about it, here, in game, at work or out and about. Silence is the destoyer of ideas. By blocking the words, you give power to the negative connotation. It implies consent that the words ARE in fact insults rather than just being mis-used by ignorant individuals.
You try being a minority that is opressed physically, pshycologically and vocally on a daily basis and not be defensive. Being straight, you get to express yourselves anywhere at any time for any reason without reprecussion, so you can't even begin to imagine what it's like to not be able to express yourself without fear of retribution. You get to express yourselves in computer games and don't even think twice about it. Not only do gays get harrassed for even inferring it, but are censored to boot.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
Come on... are you telling me that Han and Chewie never shared an "intimate moment" while floating alone through the stars? A little Brokeback Wookie?
I don't have an issue with anything you want to discuss. I do however, have issue with anyone that wants to go into a fury about rules that apply to EVERYone... and then say they are oppressed or silenced because they are not like "me".
Yet then turn around and complain that they are treated differently after they tell me we aren't the same.
I know I have this odd logic.
The pinpoint for me here is.... While I am fully aware that people cyber etc in games. On another level I just don't understand why anyone feels a need to talk about being "straight" or not.. in a game. I've never asked anyone about that in all the MMO's I've played from 1997 on.. In fact I've been online since 1985 and I've never asked anyone that.
I don't want them to tell me because... I don't care. I'm not in a game to know that.. I am in a game to play THE GAME. I am on a game forum to talk about THE GAME (since this is all based on something from TOR forums).
So what exactly is the problem?
If you want to go to some appropriate forum and have a discussion about this and all the wrongs that have happened I'm happy to listen... That's not the issue.
Because once you open that can... there are a whole lot of topics and points of view... that are very valid but depending on what side you are sitting on suddenly its an attack or something.
Which is exactly why those discussions don't belong here... or IN GAME or in an "on topic" game forum.
There is a difference between "oppression" and "common sense" odd as that is.
Chevy and baseball posts/theads would be moved to the offtopic forums. The point is Gay and Lesbian is a heated subject and people have strong beliefs about that topic and filtering it on a "game" forum is a very smart move.
awesome!
there is no room for any type of sexual talk in a star wars game forum, if you want to talk about your sexuality there is many other places to do that. if bioware put gay themes in their game a lot of people wouldnt buy it and therefore it would hurt sales. i have nothing against gay people just dont shove it in my face please.
Agree with that, can't stand homs, there enough of it on TV and in fims without it being forced in to videogames too.
Homs seem to think that because there are hetrosexual relationships shown in the media regularly that they have some mission to constantly advertise homosexuality . The thing is though that hetrosexuality is normal, it is nature, Homosexuality is against nature, wrong, a perversion and should not be advertised.
As for the guy that stated earlier that anti-homosexual views made him concerned for the future of human race, consider this. The more popular homosexuality becomes, the less hetrosexuals there will be. Meaning decline in births meaning decline in population. Hetrosexuality is needed, homosexuality is not and is detrimental to the Human race.
What's it like being an uninformed ,ignorant bigot
I am still waiting for your post about how the Jews and gypsies are trying to take over the world
I know this is a difficult concept for you to understand but the reason we see gay movies and aspects of gay relationships on TV is because your sexual orientation doesnt need to be hidden or excuses made about it
And your absurb point about homosexuality leading to the end of the human is not worth commenting on due to the absolute idiotic nature of the logic
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
Totally agree. I am so sick of people throwing their sexuality in my face that I could puke. "Homs".........roflmao.
I agree, us WASPS have it pretty rough!
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Shame. This was a good thread, but now it's deteriorated to a gay-bashing orgy. Oh, and I have reported you. I find your statement that homosexuality is a perversion offensive and I don't need to be gay for that.
The statement that sexuality is 'against nature' is also something I've heard again and again from such as you. What does that mean: "Against" Nature? Being homosexual doesn't in any way impair the 'natural order of things'. There are examples of homosexual animals as well as plants, if you are broadminded enough to contemplate this.
The statement of 'fact and logic' that the greater the number of homosexuals the lower the birthrate, is also a gross simplification. The global birth rate depends on so many other factors that are far more important. I'm not going to pretend I have some magic survey at hand, but I would claim that in order for homosexuality to have any measurable impact on the world's population trends, so many people would have to 'convert' that everyone would have a large number gay friends and family members. It would be ludicrous to continue to hate them.
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