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gthreenogthreeno Member Posts: 36

...they discovered the Power Shards?

I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.

So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.

WHY.

Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.

WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 

Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.

It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.

This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?

...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)

Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...

 

Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

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  • VandiegoVandiego Member Posts: 34

    Ammo?  We're talking about ammo? Not the game?  Not the game?  We're talking about ammo?  Not the game that we go out there and die for and play every life like it's our last.  We're not talking about the game.  We're talking about ammo.  I mean how silly is that, we're talking about ammo.  I'm not shovin it aside like it don't mean anything.  I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.  But we talkin about ammo, man, what're we talking about.  Ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We ain't talking about the game, we're talkin about ammo man.    We're talking about ammo man, not even the game, the actual game that matters, we're talking about ammo.

     

    Allen Iverson is a genius.

  • xerotwo321xerotwo321 Member UncommonPosts: 30

    Honestly I dont think anything is wrong with the Soul Shard thingys, It was put there to speed lvling along and make the combat more flashy. I dont know what its like in Aion but in L2 it played out nicely. I honestly liked the idea of it, it was an item where even if you were a noob you had a chance of becoming successful really quick. I started crafting them and made a fortune over night, I kinda wish Aion would of done the same but they actually just vendor sell them which is kinda lame in my opinion lol, but none the less easier..

     

    I would think they added it to increase the player driven economy. But yea I'm shocked you would actually quit the game because of that 1 little thing lol, you dont even know if its a big difference in Aion really, and its so much easier to obtain then it was in L2 at lower lvls

  • NomortaLNomortaL Member Posts: 43
    Originally posted by gthreeno



    This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?
    ...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)

     

    Auto-movement can be turned off.

    I think there is mob-tagging... can someone confirm this?

    only a few places are instanced i believe.

    as for power shards, i have never played with them before so i cant give any opinion about them :]

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334

    The shards barely add anything to your damage, unlike SS/SP which about doubles your damage. I use the shards only when I accidentally hit B.

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  • xerotwo321xerotwo321 Member UncommonPosts: 30

    The auto moving...I dont think I've ever seen a game that doesnt have that. You mean auto run correct? lol

    and umm Mob Tagging, I'm not sure either but I saw that you can do it on players, and I'm sure even if they dont have it now they will have it in the near future.

  • gthreenogthreeno Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by NomortaL

    Originally posted by gthreeno



    This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?
    ...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)

     

    Auto-movement can be turned off.

    I think there is mob-tagging... can someone confirm this?

    only a few places are instanced i believe.

    as for power shards, i have never played with them before so i cant give any opinion about them :]

    As far as I saw the highest DPS claims the loot/quests rights. Please correct me if I am wrong.

     

  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by gthreeno


    ...they discovered the Power Shards?
    I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.
    So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.
    WHY.
    Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.
    WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 
    Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.
    It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.
    This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?
    ...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)
    Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...
     
    Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

    Power Shard aren't as useful as there were in Lineage.

    You can turn off the click to move and auto-approach... made the game far more enjoyable for me.

    Instancing is really limited, to a few dungoens.

    Channeling, only happens in pre-20 zones.



    I don't like the no mob tagging thing myself but I can deal with that.

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  • xerotwo321xerotwo321 Member UncommonPosts: 30

    ahh I see, yea I found that to be pretty lame, I kinda like how in other games u needa follow their movements  if you wana cast the spell on them or something. I say that though because I wana be a melee char and find it unfair that my strafing aroud them comes to no good use all the time =P lol

     

    But the game does feel pretty free in combat, you can still run around people and have fun like that, but yea its kinda on easy mode when it comes to casting if you ask me, even melee, but honestly aion is the best game out there right now in my opinion for this style of play, the other game i love playing is darkfall but giving aion a shot now because my girlfriend is up for playing it lol and plus it just looks super sexy, cant beat the graphics and performance.. sorry for kinda strafing off subject =P but yea i see what ur saying now and I agree it ='s lame but its ok

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718

    Shards are good. It gives you an upper advantage with your attacks. I use them when I need a boost in a life or death situation. Past 25 I used them for pvp.

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  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by gthreeno


    What I mean is, when I have click-to-move disabled, and I right click and enemy to go into combat mode, my character auto-runs up to the enemy.

    That is auto-approach, it can be turned off too, it's in the same option screen as disable click to move.

    I didn't see it at 1st either.

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  • gthreenogthreeno Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by lornphoenix

    Originally posted by gthreeno


    What I mean is, when I have click-to-move disabled, and I right click and enemy to go into combat mode, my character auto-runs up to the enemy.

    That is auto-approach, it can be turned off too, it's in the same option screen as disable click to move.

    I didn't see it at 1st either.



     

    This is good to know, at least! Thanks! I'll remember this for the next time.

  • gthreenogthreeno Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X


    Shards are good. It gives you an upper advantage with your attacks. I use them when I need a boost in a life or death situation. Past 25 I used them for pvp.



     

    But do you keep them turned on 100% of the time in PVP and do other players as well? 

  • neosapienceneosapience Member Posts: 164

    I've given up hope on ever playing a new MMORPG that isn't some cookie-cutter, twitch-based, button-mashing, grind-fest with a shiny new graphics engine. Atlantica Online was the last hope for me ever enjoying an MMOG. Too bad it's a pay-2-win Korean grinder with  zero immersion and horribly balanced PvP.

     

    Back to playing FPS games I guess...

  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    Originally posted by gthreeno

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X


    Shards are good. It gives you an upper advantage with your attacks. I use them when I need a boost in a life or death situation. Past 25 I used them for pvp.



     

    But do you keep them turned on 100% of the time in PVP and do other players as well? 

     

    In like an area such as Abyss, if i was looking for a fight yes. If I'm questing and fighting no. It's just the B button to turn on so my fingers are close to the trigger.

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  • Calind0rCalind0r Member Posts: 735
    Originally posted by gthreeno

    Originally posted by xerotwo321


    The auto moving...I dont think I've ever seen a game that doesnt have that. You mean auto run correct? lol
    and umm Mob Tagging, I'm not sure either but I saw that you can do it on players, and I'm sure even if they dont have it now they will have it in the near future.



     

    What I mean is, when I have click-to-move disabled, and I right click and enemy to go into combat mode, my character auto-runs up to the enemy. Also when casting a spell, if a player trys to quickly dodge out of my LOS behind me, my character auto-faces him instantly.

    Just personal taste, but I didn't like it. I could over-look this though, I think, once I got used to it.

    Maybe I'm just nitpicking. :

    You can disable it in the options.

    And the soulshards almost make no difference.

  • KatillaKatilla Member UncommonPosts: 829

    i think my biggest dissapointment about this game, is the amount of WoW fanbois ranting on these forums about how much the game is a copy of other games.

  • fmaalexfmaalex Member UncommonPosts: 87
    Originally posted by Katilla


    i think my biggest dissapointment about this game, is the amount of WoW fanbois ranting on these forums about how much the game is a copy of other games.

     

    Welcome to post-wow mmo world =)

  • avalon1000avalon1000 Member UncommonPosts: 791

     

    Wait you're talking about ammo?  Not the game?  LOL

     

    Look if it's fun just play it, don't dissect it.

  • EricDanieEricDanie Member UncommonPosts: 2,238

    Nope, because they give a small bonus damage, especially considering the coins you pay for them. 

    The progression is not geometric, the shards go from +10 damage to +40 damage the most expensive ones I've seen. We're not talking about a necessary thing here, just a mere bonus, and they do not add to skills if I remember right, only to normal hits, and it's not like you'll be killing players with normal hits.

    I see them as a way of leveling alts, that's all. You're not going to win a battle just because you have these shards, unless you're talking about fighting someone with gear, stigmas, class and level exactly as yours.

    That's my impression on them, but I didn't experience L2 too deeply, so I think you got a wrong impression from the shards in Aion.

  • Azntranc3Azntranc3 Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by gthreeno


    ...they discovered the Power Shards?
    I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.
    So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.
    WHY.
    Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.
    WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 
    Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.
    It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.
    This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?
    ...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)
    Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...
     
    Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

    I was a little disappointed with the power shard feature...but I was happy when I realized they don't add much to your damage, they do help. but not so much that it becomes a necessity.

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  • LegsbiterLegsbiter Member CommonPosts: 33
    Originally posted by Vandiego


    Ammo?  We're talking about ammo? Not the game?  Not the game?  We're talking about ammo?  Not the game that we go out there and die for and play every life like it's our last.  We're not talking about the game.  We're talking about ammo.  I mean how silly is that, we're talking about ammo.  I'm not shovin it aside like it don't mean anything.  I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.  But we talkin about ammo, man, what're we talking about.  Ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We ain't talking about the game, we're talkin about ammo man.    We're talking about ammo man, not even the game, the actual game that matters, we're talking about ammo.
     
    Allen Iverson is a genius.


     

    I also think that we're talking about ammo and not the game,

  • 0guz0guz Member UncommonPosts: 287
    Originally posted by gthreeno

    Originally posted by Rikimaru_X


    Shards are good. It gives you an upper advantage with your attacks. I use them when I need a boost in a life or death situation. Past 25 I used them for pvp.



     

    But do you keep them turned on 100% of the time in PVP and do other players as well? 

    i think they are useless and also expensive, instead of power shards you can make  foods that give attack ( crafting)  better and cheap :D

  • MyDcmbr81MyDcmbr81 Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by Legsbiter

    Originally posted by Vandiego


    Ammo?  We're talking about ammo? Not the game?  Not the game?  We're talking about ammo?  Not the game that we go out there and die for and play every life like it's our last.  We're not talking about the game.  We're talking about ammo.  I mean how silly is that, we're talking about ammo.  I'm not shovin it aside like it don't mean anything.  I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.  But we talkin about ammo, man, what're we talking about.  Ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We ain't talking about the game, we're talkin about ammo man.    We're talking about ammo man, not even the game, the actual game that matters, we're talking about ammo.
     
    Allen Iverson is a genius.


     

    I also think that we're talking about ammo and not the game,



     

    Are you sure we are talking about ammo and not the game? Cuz I really thought we were talking about the game......

  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by MyDcmbr81

    Originally posted by Legsbiter

    Originally posted by Vandiego


    Ammo?  We're talking about ammo? Not the game?  Not the game?  We're talking about ammo?  Not the game that we go out there and die for and play every life like it's our last.  We're not talking about the game.  We're talking about ammo.  I mean how silly is that, we're talking about ammo.  I'm not shovin it aside like it don't mean anything.  I know it's important, I do, I honestly do.  But we talkin about ammo, man, what're we talking about.  Ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We're talking about ammo?  We ain't talking about the game, we're talkin about ammo man.    We're talking about ammo man, not even the game, the actual game that matters, we're talking about ammo.
     
    Allen Iverson is a genius.


     

    I also think that we're talking about ammo and not the game,



     

    Are you sure we are talking about ammo and not the game? Cuz I really thought we were talking about the game......

     

    ok wtf is this... because I missed the point this whole thing...

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  • InSane103InSane103 Member Posts: 26
    Originally posted by gthreeno


    ...they discovered the Power Shards?
    I have had this game pre-ordered since I could. I was stoked. Finally something new. I don't care if it's not 'innovative', I don't care if it's not 'next-gen'. I just want something new and polished... something I haven't seen in a long time. (Was at the release of AoC, and WAR.) And I am so sick of playing WoW as a waste of time.
    So naturally I was stoked for the beta. Super stoked. I logged in as soon as I could and was amazed at everything I saw up until I actually got into the game and found a few things that killed it all for me. Most notably: Power shards.
    WHY.
    Power shards are basically recycled Soul Shots from Lineage 2.
    WHY am I even seeing things similar from Lineage 2 in Aion? 
    Are they not supposed to be completely different games? I understand - same company, etc - but c'mon. The only similarities between the two games I expected to see was the art style. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy, but this killed it all for me. I think soul shots in L2 were the most pointless feature of the game, and I know many will disagree with me, but why were they even there? You had to buy millions of them and have them on 100% of the time if you wanted to get anywhere. (Granted I haven't played lineage 2 in about a year, so things might have changed). It was just a giant money-sink that left new players at a huge disadvantage.
    It's funny. I could forgive them for making me install the GameGuard trash, but for some reason I can't overlook the Power Shard "feature" in Aion. Now maybe they won't be exactly the same as they were in Lineage 2 - I don't know. I only got to level 14. I really, really, REALLY hope it doesn't play out like SS from L2 did.
    This wasn't the only similiarities I saw between Lineage 2 and Aion. Again, why?
    ...and there were other things I didn't like (auto-movement, no mob-tagging, mob training, instancing...)
    Now I've cancelled my CE pre-order and wondering if I will even play it at release. Truely I am saddened. I had hopes. Perhaps the future beta events will make me change my mind, but I doubt they'll take out Power Shards, instancing, etc...
     
    Sorry. I know many of you don't care about my opinion, and I'm happy for you if you're enjoying the game as I can see many people are. I just felt like I needed to say something.

    As far as I can tell, the whole concept behind the Power Shards was to give more "hardcore" players the option of getting better things. You can spend the money to buy these shards, get the best buff foods, etc. or choose not to and not be totally left out. It really is just an additional option for those players who like to maximize their characters.

    I personally do not like the fact that there is no mob-tagging in some cases, but for the most part it seems necessary and even helpful in PvP situations. At levels 1-20 it is just plain annoying if you have some moron following you around or people stealing specific mobs from you that you need for quests.

    As far as movement is concerned, I'm sure you've seen what other people have said in this thread.

    And as someone else has already said, there is only instancing in the first two zones. The main city and everything beyond that is not instanced. Seems the developers realized that it would be quite an annoyance to start the game and have to compete with a thousand or more people for the same mobs (since there is only one starting area per faction). I personally have not gotten far past 20 in the Chinese release, but I assume that the areas either open up more or the population of players will drop off considerably after the second zone.

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