When did it become all about being the "elitest"?

Jairoe03

Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Jairoe03



It sounds like a waste for a player to not to take advantage of the multiplayer aspect of a massive multiplayer game. When speaking in terms of solo, I'm pretty sure I clearly implied solo in the purest form as in not doing anything even RELATED to activities involving more than one person. I have also clearly state that its perfectly fine for a player to not even say a word to anyone as long as they do things like PvP, participate in the economy etc., they can be said to be taking advantage of an MMO. When a player solely quests alone and makes no attempt on making no action that involves other players, I'm saying that is where a line is drawn to where that game probably will not be best for that particular player and they are better off playing a single player game, those games are more enriched and designed for those players. Those players opinions shouldn't matter if it doesn't involve the overall well being of many players, most likely their opinions will be from their own experience and I speak in terms of solo in the purest form.
There you go again.  *YOU* say it seems like a waste for a player not to play *YOUR* way.  Obviously, many, many other people don't share your opinion.  There's still no requirement in any MMO that anyone participates or interacts with anyone else whether you like it or not.  In the end, it's none of your damn business to judge what is "best" for anyone but yourself, everyone is paying the same monthly fee, people can pay it and never even log on and it's none of your business whether they do or not.  You're taking what *YOU* like and you're making an assertion that anyone not doing what *YOU* like is somehow doing it wrong.
Never did I say anything about having to group, having to talk, or having to do anything directly. I spoke very loosely in terms of just participating in activities that other players are involved in whether DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY. Now I think this is the part thats overlooked most of the time which I explained over and over again, I guess you can reread my post or maybe actually read it more thoroughly. I do not have a playstyle that is all encompassing or an interest that covers absolutely everything or even require anyone else to have that sort of attitude to actually be considered participating within an MMORPG. Its so easy to pick a paragraph and focus on it without taking the rest of my post (and previous posts) into consideration. It's clear you made an assumption that is entirely not true especially in terms of the tones I take in all my posts. Maybe you are wrong
Perhaps not you specifically, but if I was going to respond to you and only to you, I'd send you a private message.  Publically-posted messages are open for anyone and let's be honest, there are people who do post on MMORPG.com that *DO* think exactly that and have posted as much.
Stop acting like just because your message gets quoted, it's a private message for you.

 

 

Well to respond to your last thing first, when you say YOU are wrong, I feel in some way that it was directed at me. So, excuse me if that wasn't your intention, but I think you have taken my message more or less in the same way I don't mind a public debate or anything based on assumption but merely pointed out flaws within your assumption and in fact that it was an assumption that was wrong (I think I know what I meant).

Never in my post did I say you MUST interact with other players, I merely offered it up as a suggestion that they more likely than not don't belong there. I never said they don't deserve to buy it or spend time on it solo, but merely suggest its a waste of time mainly on their own part especially the ones that want to complain about the game later. An opinion of a game should not bear much merit if a player only experiences 1 dimension of an MMORPG which usually contains multiple dimensions. I agree that everyone is obligated to play however they want since they pay for it the same as the next guy. I point out that they MIGHT be wasting their time and MIGHT be better off playing a game better suited for them. Its easy how you can blow my post out of proportion and take out of context fairly easily.

Take my opinions as opinions please and not as me speaking in absolute terms because I don't believe in absolutes. Not telling all people that want to play an MMO to bugger off, just stating again, they are probably wasting their time and won't be as satisfied. There are better games for those people and again these are suggestions. I'm not trying to clear the land of MMOville of all pure soloist players, that probably won't be in a company's best interest and I understand that. Just a very complex way of saying that MMO's should focus more efforts on the multiplayer aspects of a game and less on the solo aspects (not to eliminate it completely).

Again, read my previous posts more thoroughly. I don't feel like I have to defend my posts any more than this, beyond this is just a waste of time if you manage to take this one out of perspective as well and I guess that'll be more your problem than mine

Axehilt, I want to respond to that, but I know its not worth responding to based on the outrageousness of your statement. Again, more misassumptions, I guess the response above can be directed at you too.

Cephus404

Originally posted by Jairoe03



Well to respond to your last thing first, when you say YOU are wrong, I feel in some way that it was directed at me. So, excuse me if that wasn't your intention, but I think you have taken my message more or less in the same way I don't mind a public debate or anything based on assumption but merely pointed out flaws within your assumption and in fact that it was an assumption that was wrong (I think I know what I meant).
You're probably right and I didn't mean to confuse anyone.  We can chalk it up to a misunderstanding.
Never in my post did I say you MUST interact with other players, I merely offered it up as a suggestion that they more likely than not don't belong there. I never said they don't deserve to buy it or spend time on it solo, but merely suggest its a waste of time mainly on their own part especially the ones that want to complain about the game later. An opinion of a game should not bear much merit if a player only experiences 1 dimension of an MMORPG which usually contains multiple dimensions. I agree that everyone is obligated to play however they want since they pay for it the same as the next guy. I point out that they MIGHT be wasting their time and MIGHT be better off playing a game better suited for them. Its easy how you can blow my post out of proportion and take out of context fairly easily.
But again, you're asserting that *YOUR* way of playing is the only correct way of playing.  You are saying that people who don't do what you want them to do don't belong there.  That's not your call to make.
Take my opinions as opinions please and not as me speaking in absolute terms because I don't believe in absolutes. Not telling all people that want to play an MMO to bugger off, just stating again, they are probably wasting their time and won't be as satisfied. There are better games for those people and again these are suggestions. I'm not trying to clear the land of MMOville of all pure soloist players, that probably won't be in a company's best interest and I understand that. Just a very complex way of saying that MMO's should focus more efforts on the multiplayer aspects of a game and less on the solo aspects (not to eliminate it completely).
But apparently they are satisfied because they continue to pay their monthly fee and they continue to play.  If they're satisfied with how they are playing and what they're getting out of the game, why does it bother you so much what they're doing?  You keep posting that they're doing something wrong when you cannot defend this view beyond your own personal opinion.