So where is the option in your poll for NO? All you have is a No, but yes option. Assuming everyone agrees with you in the first place is a lot, especially since the last 3 threads of yours indicate not everyone does.
Oh and my vote is NO. The UI appears to have borrowed some aspects of a few WoW UI mods, some of which Blizzard had also stolen parts of to add to their game of WoW.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread...
Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either.
Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
Have any of you looked at the game? They took WoW's UI, class abilities, and even the terrain.
Important facts: 1. Free to Play games are poorly made. 2. Casuals are not all idiots, but idiots call themselves casuals. 3. Great solo and group content are not mutually exclusive, but they suffer when one is shoved into the mold of the other. The same is true of PvP and PvE. 4. Community is more important than you think.
there are only so many ways you can shove abilities, minimap and a character portrait onto a screen before you run out of innovation. There is a difference between ripping off and using the Industry standard. Do all websites rip off one another or use the Industry standard of website layout?
People really have to stop with this ripping off crap. Until a company sues another one then it should never be classed as a rip off.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
there are only so many ways you can shove abilities, minimap and a character portrait onto a screen before you run out of innovation. There is a difference between ripping off and using the Industry standard. Do all websites rip off one another or use the Industry standard of website layout?
People really have to stop with this ripping off crap. Until a company sues another one then it should never be classed as a rip off.
Wow, seriously, only so many ways?
Tell that to all the UI modders that play WoW... or all the people who reconfigure their Vanguard/EQ2 UIs, or all the game developers who actually took the time to develop a unique UI. Tell them all, there is only so many ways.
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
WARNING! Please do not reply to this thread if you disagree with the OP or he will immediately jump all over you and call you everything he can get away with. If you agree with him you should be fine to respond. Open discussion of the topic is NOT allowed, support of a single opinion is, as long as it matches the OP's ONLY.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
And? WoW took many things, including major UI elements from other games, and dozens and dozens of games since have used the same things, including nearly identical UIs since WoW. wtf is the point in debating over Alganon doing the same?
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
WARNING! Please do not reply to this thread if you disagree with the OP or he will immediately jump all over you and call you everything he can get away with. If you agree with him you should be fine to respond. Open discussion of the topic is NOT allowed, support of a single opinion is, as long as it matches the OP's ONLY.
Wrong, what you don't like people pointing out that you are wrong and that hurts your feelings so much! You said "do your research..." what research? You mean the ones where QoL say "no, it isn't ripped off" that isn't research. A picture is worth a thousand words, take a look then tell me they aren't ripped off. And no, it's not like they took mods from WoW, it's like they took the base WoW UI assest and made them into a hard coded including the art work for a Key Ring, which the game doesn't even have code to use. (I took about their .pak folder to look for the keyring bag artwork/xml files and they are no where to be found.)
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
And? WoW took many things, including major UI elements from other games, and dozens and dozens of games since have used the same things, including nearly identical UIs since WoW. wtf is the point in debating over Alganon doing the same?
Name them. Please do and I will show you countless UI screenshots proving you wrong.
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
WARNING! Please do not reply to this thread if you disagree with the OP or he will immediately jump all over you and call you everything he can get away with. If you agree with him you should be fine to respond. Open discussion of the topic is NOT allowed, support of a single opinion is, as long as it matches the OP's ONLY.
Oh you haven't been to the official alganon forums yet have you? Fanbois have taken those over and for anyone with a brain to post we have to run away to these kind of forums to have any say and even here the invasion has taken over. THE END IS NEAR!.
Man, if only we could harness the anger of forums and focus it on something useful, like hunger or poverty. We'd be in a pajama wearing euphoric society in like three days, tops. He seems very angry about the UI. WoW did not invent the hotbar, sorry.
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
I've taken the liberty of replying after your edit. There is hope after all.
You assume one needs to view a completeness of material to gain understanding of thought process. Not so. I have more to go off of than images of their UI- so your statement is false. The correct statement would read that you have presented nothing more than images, and that your claims are bound by these terms.
Seriously, go to their site, watch their development teams in action- video, not image. It's evident they are putting in effort. As far as similarities go, there are plenty to be found throughout the genre. The UI polish itself calls for a review of play, of which no one retorts. But social box placement, character ability bar placement et al. follow the same format standards that everyone else does.
Is this the finished polish? Or just a stand-in familiar layout while devs work on other more pressing issues? I'm not saying either is true. But for being an unannounced title from an indie, they for sure get the benefit of the doubt.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread... Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either. Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
I've taken the liberty of replying after your edit. There is hope after all.
You assume one needs to view a completeness of material to gain understanding of thought process. Not so. I have more to go off of than images of their UI- so your statement is false. The correct statement would read that you have presented nothing more than images, and that your claims are bound by these terms.
Seriously, go to their site, watch their development teams in action- video, not image. It's evident they are putting in effort. As far as similarities go, there are plenty to be found throughout the genre. The UI polish itself calls for a review of play, of which no one retorts. But social box placement, character ability bar placement et al. follow the same format standards that everyone else does.
Is this the finished polish? Or just a stand-in familiar layout while devs work on other more pressing issues? I'm not saying either is true. But for being an unannounced title from an indie, they for sure get the benefit of the doubt.
Watching a lie in action doesn't make it any less of a lie. Everyone is going to put out what they want you to see. You think it was a happy coincidence the UI looks exactly the same? Or that they include a Keyring graphic with no files that call upon the keyring option and an achievement panel with no achievements added or even mentioned as being on the way. Or the fact that many of their "abilities" and "skills" use the same name and have the same exact effect as those in WoW? Take for example a soldier hamstring, the talent "improved hamstring" is the same exact 5 point talent as it was in WoW during Burning Crusade, word for word the same. Blizzard of course made it a 3 point talent in Wrath but that doesn't change that the effect and name are the same.
But guess what? they perfected it and now every single game takes the main elements from them. Even bioware says they took wow's UI because it had been perfected but guess what i see no similarity visually in both of them. Seriously how hard is to change up the UI a little bit and not use the same exact colours and layout as wow?
But guess what? they perfected it and now every single game takes the main elements from them. Even bioware says they took wow's UI because it had been perfected but guess what i see no similarity visually in both of them. Seriously how hard is to change up the UI a little bit and not use the same exact colours and layout as wow?
Even worse is the idea that "there are only so many ways" when you can go to any WoW site that hosts UIs and see there are thousands of ways to create a UI.
*sigh* Claiming something doesn't make that thing any more true or false. You're hinting at conspiracy by hinging it on a marketing ploy. If it is proven true, then they'll have the Justice Department to answer to. Where does anyone else get involved, or matter? There is no coincidence. There is benefit of doubt due to their stature and their efforts towards transparency.
I feel at this point that you will only believe what you choose to believe.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
*sigh* Claiming something doesn't make that thing any more true or false. You're hinting at conspiracy by hinging it on a marketing ploy. If it is proven true, then they'll have the Justice Department to answer to. Where does anyone else get involved, or matter? There is no coincidence. There is benefit of doubt due to their stature and their efforts towards transparency. I feel at this point that you will only believe what you choose to believe.
LoL! Seriously, so because they are a small company they get the benefit of the doubt? What their eyes and ears have been closed for the last 5 years? No one in their company has played WoW? Again, no company is going to show you if they are ripping someone off, just not going to happen. To believe otherwise is naive.
Don't play it, if the hotbar bothers you that much. Mine looks nothing like that in WoW, but hey, each their own. Remember when everyone said WoW ripped of EQ's UI? Oh man, those were good times.
Believe it or not, some things are just standardize so morons all over the world can grasp the simple concepts required to play, so they sort of have to pander a bit. The UI is there for the game, not in spite of it. Hence easy of use, and such, is a common factor when it comes to design. I mean all FPS use the WADS system, even WoW. Did they have to, no they could have used the TFGH system or just the arrow keys. So what if you get every single person on the planet to admit they directly ripped off WoW's hotbar, in the end, that just means 11+ million of them will be able to play quicker. It has zero impact on the game, but a massive impact on you it seems.
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So where is the option in your poll for NO? All you have is a No, but yes option. Assuming everyone agrees with you in the first place is a lot, especially since the last 3 threads of yours indicate not everyone does.
Oh and my vote is NO. The UI appears to have borrowed some aspects of a few WoW UI mods, some of which Blizzard had also stolen parts of to add to their game of WoW.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Both this thread and the other you started are nothing but mere trolls- esp considering how fast you posted both and how they could have easily been merged. Along with this past week's hoax plagiarism thread...
Do your research on the dev team's efforts, and you'll find their efforts have been sincere. I personally think the game looks like crap (no PvP what?) but don't knock an honest effort. And similarities run rampant in this genre, so there's nothing to see here about that either.
Call it what it is: a development honest effort, but game that doesn't warrant much attention.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
Have any of you looked at the game? They took WoW's UI, class abilities, and even the terrain.
Important facts:
1. Free to Play games are poorly made.
2. Casuals are not all idiots, but idiots call themselves casuals.
3. Great solo and group content are not mutually exclusive, but they suffer when one is shoved into the mold of the other. The same is true of PvP and PvE.
4. Community is more important than you think.
there are only so many ways you can shove abilities, minimap and a character portrait onto a screen before you run out of innovation. There is a difference between ripping off and using the Industry standard. Do all websites rip off one another or use the Industry standard of website layout?
People really have to stop with this ripping off crap. Until a company sues another one then it should never be classed as a rip off.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
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You call that a sincere effort?
Wow, seriously, only so many ways?
Tell that to all the UI modders that play WoW... or all the people who reconfigure their Vanguard/EQ2 UIs, or all the game developers who actually took the time to develop a unique UI. Tell them all, there is only so many ways.
Someone using copyrighted material isn't plagiarism, it's infringement.
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You call that a sincere effort?
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(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
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You call that a sincere effort?
And? WoW took many things, including major UI elements from other games, and dozens and dozens of games since have used the same things, including nearly identical UIs since WoW. wtf is the point in debating over Alganon doing the same?
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
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You call that a sincere effort?
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Wrong, what you don't like people pointing out that you are wrong and that hurts your feelings so much! You said "do your research..." what research? You mean the ones where QoL say "no, it isn't ripped off" that isn't research. A picture is worth a thousand words, take a look then tell me they aren't ripped off. And no, it's not like they took mods from WoW, it's like they took the base WoW UI assest and made them into a hard coded including the art work for a Key Ring, which the game doesn't even have code to use. (I took about their .pak folder to look for the keyring bag artwork/xml files and they are no where to be found.)
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
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2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-sEw3gNI/AAAAAAAAAA0/moo-t9GmgLU/s1600-h/skill+plagiarism.jpg
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You call that a sincere effort?
And? WoW took many things, including major UI elements from other games, and dozens and dozens of games since have used the same things, including nearly identical UIs since WoW. wtf is the point in debating over Alganon doing the same?
Name them. Please do and I will show you countless UI screenshots proving you wrong.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
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You call that a sincere effort?
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-oDc38sI/AAAAAAAAAAs/bNnC1T3wqJA/s1600-h/talent+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-sEw3gNI/AAAAAAAAAA0/moo-t9GmgLU/s1600-h/skill+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuVoA7OLIzI/AAAAAAAAABM/6xIaScGPO64/s1600-h/mortal+kombat.jpg
You call that a sincere effort?
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
Oh you haven't been to the official alganon forums yet have you? Fanbois have taken those over and for anyone with a brain to post we have to run away to these kind of forums to have any say and even here the invasion has taken over. THE END IS NEAR!.
Man, if only we could harness the anger of forums and focus it on something useful, like hunger or poverty. We'd be in a pajama wearing euphoric society in like three days, tops. He seems very angry about the UI. WoW did not invent the hotbar, sorry.
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-oDc38sI/AAAAAAAAAAs/bNnC1T3wqJA/s1600-h/talent+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-sEw3gNI/AAAAAAAAAA0/moo-t9GmgLU/s1600-h/skill+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuVoA7OLIzI/AAAAAAAAABM/6xIaScGPO64/s1600-h/mortal+kombat.jpg
You call that a sincere effort?
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
I've taken the liberty of replying after your edit. There is hope after all.
You assume one needs to view a completeness of material to gain understanding of thought process. Not so. I have more to go off of than images of their UI- so your statement is false. The correct statement would read that you have presented nothing more than images, and that your claims are bound by these terms.
Seriously, go to their site, watch their development teams in action- video, not image. It's evident they are putting in effort. As far as similarities go, there are plenty to be found throughout the genre. The UI polish itself calls for a review of play, of which no one retorts. But social box placement, character ability bar placement et al. follow the same format standards that everyone else does.
Is this the finished polish? Or just a stand-in familiar layout while devs work on other more pressing issues? I'm not saying either is true. But for being an unannounced title from an indie, they for sure get the benefit of the doubt.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
Hello retard, how are you? You can't edit a poll. Opps! Sincere effort? I will show you a sincere effort:
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-oDc38sI/AAAAAAAAAAs/bNnC1T3wqJA/s1600-h/talent+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuA-sEw3gNI/AAAAAAAAAA0/moo-t9GmgLU/s1600-h/skill+plagiarism.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_uX5eC7LD5ro/SuVoA7OLIzI/AAAAAAAAABM/6xIaScGPO64/s1600-h/mortal+kombat.jpg
You call that a sincere effort?
Apologies for lack of formatting, not on my usual PC.
First and foremost, I do not come to these boards looking for flamewars, and remember that respect goes 2 ways. Feel free to discuss topics while maintaining a certain degree of decency in your choice of words.
As far as polls: think before posting. No need to post duplicate threads in the first place.
I see you've done some research on the topic, but would encourage you to see things from their eyes as well. A casual visit to their host site will provide you with insight into their design process and the effort they've put into their product. Unless this studio mocked up a nice demo reel, there is nothing but clear effort on their behalf to make their game detailed, involving and fun. Note that I say innovative nowhere.
Note that regardless of what you want, it probably won't happen. Second, you still can't edit polls.
See things from their eyes, would mean you have seen the entire creation process, which you haven't. All you have to go on are the images of their UI, which looks like an exact clone of Warcrafts.
I've taken the liberty of replying after your edit. There is hope after all.
You assume one needs to view a completeness of material to gain understanding of thought process. Not so. I have more to go off of than images of their UI- so your statement is false. The correct statement would read that you have presented nothing more than images, and that your claims are bound by these terms.
Seriously, go to their site, watch their development teams in action- video, not image. It's evident they are putting in effort. As far as similarities go, there are plenty to be found throughout the genre. The UI polish itself calls for a review of play, of which no one retorts. But social box placement, character ability bar placement et al. follow the same format standards that everyone else does.
Is this the finished polish? Or just a stand-in familiar layout while devs work on other more pressing issues? I'm not saying either is true. But for being an unannounced title from an indie, they for sure get the benefit of the doubt.
Watching a lie in action doesn't make it any less of a lie. Everyone is going to put out what they want you to see. You think it was a happy coincidence the UI looks exactly the same? Or that they include a Keyring graphic with no files that call upon the keyring option and an achievement panel with no achievements added or even mentioned as being on the way. Or the fact that many of their "abilities" and "skills" use the same name and have the same exact effect as those in WoW? Take for example a soldier hamstring, the talent "improved hamstring" is the same exact 5 point talent as it was in WoW during Burning Crusade, word for word the same. Blizzard of course made it a 3 point talent in Wrath but that doesn't change that the effect and name are the same.
But guess what? they perfected it and now every single game takes the main elements from them. Even bioware says they took wow's UI because it had been perfected but guess what i see no similarity visually in both of them. Seriously how hard is to change up the UI a little bit and not use the same exact colours and layout as wow?
But guess what? they perfected it and now every single game takes the main elements from them. Even bioware says they took wow's UI because it had been perfected but guess what i see no similarity visually in both of them. Seriously how hard is to change up the UI a little bit and not use the same exact colours and layout as wow?
Even worse is the idea that "there are only so many ways" when you can go to any WoW site that hosts UIs and see there are thousands of ways to create a UI.
*sigh* Claiming something doesn't make that thing any more true or false. You're hinting at conspiracy by hinging it on a marketing ploy. If it is proven true, then they'll have the Justice Department to answer to. Where does anyone else get involved, or matter? There is no coincidence. There is benefit of doubt due to their stature and their efforts towards transparency.
I feel at this point that you will only believe what you choose to believe.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
Exactly! Who the f@ck cares! At least I know where to find things and how to use it.
Get over it already!
LoL! Seriously, so because they are a small company they get the benefit of the doubt? What their eyes and ears have been closed for the last 5 years? No one in their company has played WoW? Again, no company is going to show you if they are ripping someone off, just not going to happen. To believe otherwise is naive.
Ya, who cares if they stole it! Stealing is acceptable!
wow OP, those screenshots are pathetic. no wonder all the mmos being churned out, free or not, are garbage
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Don't play it, if the hotbar bothers you that much. Mine looks nothing like that in WoW, but hey, each their own. Remember when everyone said WoW ripped of EQ's UI? Oh man, those were good times.
Believe it or not, some things are just standardize so morons all over the world can grasp the simple concepts required to play, so they sort of have to pander a bit. The UI is there for the game, not in spite of it. Hence easy of use, and such, is a common factor when it comes to design. I mean all FPS use the WADS system, even WoW. Did they have to, no they could have used the TFGH system or just the arrow keys. So what if you get every single person on the planet to admit they directly ripped off WoW's hotbar, in the end, that just means 11+ million of them will be able to play quicker. It has zero impact on the game, but a massive impact on you it seems.
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