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Aion Conspiracy Theory !!!
chesiremorph
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This is something That crossed my mind multiple times throughout my attempt to enjoy AION.
(which I have since decided is not the game for me)
This is a completely unproven, nonfactual, HYPOTHESIS.
Just a thought, and I may be totally off base with this, but has anyone out there considered that these bots and gold farmers may not be the standard bots and gold farmers that we have become accustomed to seeing in MMOs. I have absolutely no proof, and very little evidence to back up my claim, with the exception of the sheer volume of farmers and Bots.
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Let me explain my conspiracy theory. Lets say you owned an MMO, maybe the worlds largest ... we'll call it "World of Witchcraft" LOL... And lets say that some decent company finally made a carbon copy of your unique game with the same familiar style that you previously dominated the market with, but with a much more advanced graphics engine and some new feature like … lets say the ability to fly... etc etc etc...
How would you go about ruining the game experience in the least obvious way possible. I know if I was the head dude in charge of my fictitious MMO "World of Witchcraft" paying some anonymous company to ruin the economy and experience of the new game with a barrage of Bots and Gold Farmers is “One Hell of a good idea“! A very cheap idea at that, and apparently a difficult problem to remedy.
Ncsoft has a huge problem, and I have no idea how to remedy it at all. My question to you is > who thinks this issue is the same old Bots n Farmer issue that we have seen many times before and who thinks that this could be a much larger conspiracy related problem we may be unaware of?
BoB
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one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
NCSOFT = rmt or gold farmers cause this game has no free trial and w/o free trial gold farmers would loose money not gain if they got the game got banned bought the game again got banned bought it again got banned..... think before you post.
i stop reading at here ''some decent company finally made a carbon copy of your unique game with the same familiar style''
LOL is it wow?
I doubt Blizz would risk their "empire" with tactics such as these. If they did such a thing and were ever caught the lawyers and NCsoft would own Blizzard. There are conspiracies no doubt, but this one is too far fetched even for me
I dislike Blizzard's way of working and evolving their game. (speaking about wow)
But, i recognize they are an extremelly capable group of people, and a successfull group. I really doubt they even had the time or the concern to do those things.
Well the OP has me convinced. He is in fact spouting off about a (and here I quote him directly) "completely unproven, nonfactual, HYPOTHESIS".
You want to spout off about Santa Claus next or maybe little green Leprechauns from Mars?
Oh and I agree with him at the end also where he says that he has no idea though I'm not sure I would be so obvviously proud to be clueless.
one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
AION is nowhere remotely close to an L2 clone. It's a WOW knock off. I gave it a long hard try, reached lev 47, did not like the Abyss, and dropped it. Not sure what to do now, but I'm sure not going back to WOW. It's too dated.
BoB
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.
3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.
4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.
5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.
6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.
7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.
8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.
9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.
10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.
A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.
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Here's a more likely conspiracy.
Aion has no free trial, and every bot banned is another bot registered, another cd key sold.
NCsoft could probably fund Aion just on the 27 thousand plus bots banned every week, forget subscribers. Think of how much money NCsoft, Steam, Direct 2 Drive, and other outlets must be making on Aion sales, and at least now we know why the game's been on the top sales lists for digital download services for the months leading up, and about a month past, launch:
NCsoft are banning a ton of bots, but slow enough that it's still profitable for the gold farmers. NC doesn't care about bots, but this is a cash pit they'd be stupid not to jump into.
Funny post . But there are more companies selling gold for WoW the Aion x10. Every MMO will have bots / farmers, why ?? Because ppl will always buy the stuff because they are lazy!!
Played Aoc/DDO/FFXI/WAR / LoTRo / CO / Aion
Playing Rift
Waiting for FFXIV to be the game it should. so sad =(
Santa Claus is coming to town. what are you talking about? just because I suggested something far fetched it doesnt make it impossible. It just crossed my mind, soooo I brought it to an open forum full of open minded people to discuss it with. Well... except for you who decided to chime in just to bash. Nice Job!
BoB
one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
AION is nowhere remotely close to an L2 clone. It's a WOW knock off. I gave it a long hard try, reached lev 47, did not like the Abyss, and dropped it. Not sure what to do now, but I'm sure not going back to WOW. It's too dated.
How is aion like wow explain that one to me? Oh it has smooth animations, it has hot keys that allow me to actually use skills by pressing the various hot keys. It has balanced classes, mounts, and other such things. It is also entirely gear driven. It has pvp areas but it's not required to pvp the entire time. And the artistic style is original?
Ok now let's look at this seriously. Aion has a graphical style where the characters look like lineage 2 and also have animations of similar quality. The graphical quality of the game reminds me of Perfect World. The style of the enviroment practically screams it. So Aion is a wow clone correct? Tell me what features has ncsoft managed to clone into Aion?
Despite people's hatred for WoW, its hard to deny that almost everything Blizz makes is rock solid, and super-well-polished. They are a MASSIVE company with high expectations.
And because of that, there is no way they would risk getting caught in an act like this. They would be sued for potentially billions of dollars.
Thanks for that....
It would take a completely unoriginal mind to disregard any and all Hypothesized conspiracies. Do I believe that what I said is true. NO ... I just think that it would be naive to think that it is impossible.
BoB
I guess WoW is responsible for Global Warming too..
The sad thing behind the OPs theory is that he thinks that people left Aion because of the spamming issue and botting.
That game has way more issues than that..
Not to toot my own horn,but i have a ton of experience following cheating/rmt in all online games,so i think i have a pretty good feel for what is going on.
I would say the OP's theory is not an accurate one sorry.However i can tell you that WOW is the most massive RMT game going and only logical that Aion is probably number2.
I can also tell you that NCSOFT has a subsidiary that runs GM services and all those games have been rmt problematic,so they cannot be trusted at all.
I can also tell you that i did play L2 for about 4 months and i reported a ton of bots,and they were never removed ,it was very frustrating.I sent several emails to NCSOFT support and was surprised they actually responded since i was calling them out for not removing bots after i sent them the names and everything.What i got for responses were EXCUSES,it was like they were making every attempt to protect the bots,since that time in L2 ,i vow to NEVER trust NCSOFT ever again.
Who in the chain of commands at NCSOFT is actually responsible i have no idea,but there is w/o question something wrong going on ,100% positive of that.
Then you look at outright LIES by NCSOFT.They claimed to have a long drawn out beta to make sure the game was ready,yet what happens on release?massive que ues and NGUARD fails it's players .So how much effort did they actually do on the beta preparation?It shows to be NOT MUCH.
NCSOFT has had problems with bots for years now using NGUARD,so why were they not prepared LONG before launch?Now they claim to be banning tons of bots lmao,ya right,believe it if you want,i for sure do not.They never cared about bots before,now all of a sudden they care?I cal lbs on that bigtime.The mere fact that NCSOFT was going to be using NGUARD once again even though it has NEVER worked,is proof they are full of crap.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
AION is nowhere remotely close to an L2 clone. It's a WOW knock off. I gave it a long hard try, reached lev 47, did not like the Abyss, and dropped it. Not sure what to do now, but I'm sure not going back to WOW. It's too dated.
How is aion like wow explain that one to me? Oh it has smooth animations, it has hot keys that allow me to actually use skills by pressing the various hot keys. It has balanced classes, mounts, and other such things. It is also entirely gear driven. It has pvp areas but it's not required to pvp the entire time. And the artistic style is original?
Ok now let's look at this seriously. Aion has a graphical style where the characters look like lineage 2 and also have animations of similar quality. The graphical quality of the game reminds me of Perfect World. The style of the enviroment practically screams it. So Aion is a wow clone correct? Tell me what features has ncsoft managed to clone into Aion?
Most of the game is structured EXACTLY like WOW. You'd have to be blind not to see that. Just as most of WOW was originaly an upgraded clone of EQ and other games that came before it. I do not like AION. I do not like WOW anymore since it has become old and dated as I said.
Here are a few, just to amuse you. The AH, The crafting system though basic is similar, the battle mechanics, The loot system, The whole damn game with the exception of the Korean themes they could not get rid of and the issue of flight. Don't be such a WOW fanboy ... open your eyes.
BoB
VERY GOOD, and very intelligent response that totaly disagreed with me. Thank you.
BoB
You must not have played AION. The game is not bad, but it is made almost unplayable due to Bots and Farmers. I have never seen a problem this bad before. It's mind blowing. I would recommend checking it out if they had a free trial, but I don't think that they do.
BoB
Good Point.
BoB
one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
AION is nowhere remotely close to an L2 clone. It's a WOW knock off. I gave it a long hard try, reached lev 47, did not like the Abyss, and dropped it. Not sure what to do now, but I'm sure not going back to WOW. It's too dated.
How is aion like wow explain that one to me? Oh it has smooth animations, it has hot keys that allow me to actually use skills by pressing the various hot keys. It has balanced classes, mounts, and other such things. It is also entirely gear driven. It has pvp areas but it's not required to pvp the entire time. And the artistic style is original?
Ok now let's look at this seriously. Aion has a graphical style where the characters look like lineage 2 and also have animations of similar quality. The graphical quality of the game reminds me of Perfect World. The style of the enviroment practically screams it. So Aion is a wow clone correct? Tell me what features has ncsoft managed to clone into Aion?
Most of the game is structured EXACTLY like WOW. You'd have to be blind not to see that. Just as most of WOW was originaly an upgraded clone of EQ and other games that came before it. I do not like AION. I do not like WOW anymore since it has become old and dated as I said.
Here are a few, just to amuse you. The AH, The crafting system though basic is similar, the battle mechanics, The loot system, The whole damn game with the exception of the Korean themes they could not get rid of and the issue of flight. Don't be such a WOW fanboy ... open your eyes.
Not a wow fan boy. I dislike the game wow. I tried it at one time and said screw this. I've not played aion besides just looking at some gameplay videos. That's b/c from what i've seen it's just another korean grindfest.
one problem with your theory. WoW!= Aion. Aion=L2 clone. Learn to realize how the world works...
AION is nowhere remotely close to an L2 clone. It's a WOW knock off. I gave it a long hard try, reached lev 47, did not like the Abyss, and dropped it. Not sure what to do now, but I'm sure not going back to WOW. It's too dated.
How is aion like wow explain that one to me? Oh it has smooth animations, it has hot keys that allow me to actually use skills by pressing the various hot keys. It has balanced classes, mounts, and other such things. It is also entirely gear driven. It has pvp areas but it's not required to pvp the entire time. And the artistic style is original?
Ok now let's look at this seriously. Aion has a graphical style where the characters look like lineage 2 and also have animations of similar quality. The graphical quality of the game reminds me of Perfect World. The style of the enviroment practically screams it. So Aion is a wow clone correct? Tell me what features has ncsoft managed to clone into Aion?
Most of the game is structured EXACTLY like WOW. You'd have to be blind not to see that. Just as most of WOW was originaly an upgraded clone of EQ and other games that came before it. I do not like AION. I do not like WOW anymore since it has become old and dated as I said.
Here are a few, just to amuse you. The AH, The crafting system though basic is similar, the battle mechanics, The loot system, The whole damn game with the exception of the Korean themes they could not get rid of and the issue of flight. Don't be such a WOW fanboy ... open your eyes.
Not a wow fan boy. I dislike the game wow. I tried it at one time and said screw this. I've not played aion besides just looking at some gameplay videos. That's b/c from what i've seen it's just another korean grindfest.
Very simply It is a WOW clone, with a bit more grinding and flight.
BoB
Santa Claus is coming to town. what are you talking about? just because I suggested something far fetched it doesnt make it impossible. It just crossed my mind, soooo I brought it to an open forum full of open minded people to discuss it with. Well... except for you who decided to chime in just to bash. Nice Job!
I didn't say he was coming to town however he is at this time a unproven, nonfactual Hypothesis. I'm not bashing your conspiracy so much as I'm bashing your unwillingness to make a forceful stand for it. To make some claims while at the same time disavowing any responsibility for them is just ineffectual at best and being a weasel at worst.
If YOU don't believe in what you are saying then why should we? Now excuse me as I need to go talk to one of Santa's leprachauns as I want a new bot for Christmas.
you see, banning bots is a very careful balancing act. You have to ban enough to make people feel like they're worth something, but not enough to make the botters give up. You have to allow the botters to actually make money from the whole transaction of buying accounts/selling currency.
I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.
You all need to learn to spell.