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I'd almost rather do housework..
Vaedur
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That's how much i hate the state of mmo's first time in years i do not have a subscription on renewal (have one or two expiring in a few days) giving Eve a try, but my god, when did they all turn to junk. Why does everything have to hold your hand. Tokens? give me a break.. noone can do a mmo w/ any real PvE challange.
Lotro? 2 dungeons to get t1 tokens.. then 2 dungeons to get t2 tokens.. no thank you.. boring me
WoW token fest
FE? No lvl 45 content.. what's the point.. solocraft they should call it no interdependency
SWG lifesupport
FF11 nope waiting till f14
VG Lifesupport
EQ2 .. engame is the only game.. super fast leveling, no challange, whole game is cap for AA's.. all content till endgame is super simple..
DDO itemshopp ruined it for me.
Is it me.. or is it the state of mmo's?? We can call this the Dark age of the MMo.. we are officially in it.. and like most of us.. (or some of us) they only game we are playing is ...
The waiting game....
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Sounds to me like you are burnt out on the genre.
Don't play for a year or two.
Burn out is nature's way of getting us to try new things.
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not playig for a year or 2 isnt really an option for a mmoholic like myself and no doubt 1000's of others, ive also tried filling my time with doing housework also, trust me, that isnt the answer either....
Funny you would title the thread that OP. That is what ive been doing a lot of since getting thrown out of work. More time to play than ive had in years and what do I do? Housework and some times a single player game. Dont know if its burn out or the genre but I suspect it is both.
You aren't alone.
I've tolerated MMOs for a few years now. Some things are extremely cool for a little while. Some even a few months. But there's always something that nibbles at my interest. Something that is just SO bad that eventually what good is available gets drowned out by X.
And unfortunately, I don't see anything on the horizon that is going to change the environment.
Yeah....THAT ^^^^^. Because some of the things you said aren't even entirely true. So yeah...you just sound totally burnt out on the genre. Why not try some single player RPGs for a while. That's always worked pretty well for me. Apart from the fact, that there are some really really good ones, both old and new.
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Well that's how I've felt since BC came out for WoW. I actually do homework for University now.
Well it sounds like the OP and some of you others have just about played it all. To put it in perspective, if you're getting more then a month or two of play out of any of these MMOs then that is really worth your money then. Many single player games are only good for about a month or two unless you're a die hard FPS fan or a very intricate RTS player.
I've stopped playing MMOs as hardcore as I did before... when FE came out I hit it pretty hard.. and a lot of my other responsibilities suffered.. as usual. Now that I've experienced a few months of that I decided to focus on my next big thing, and take this time in between to get the rest of my life in order... I've been training for an upcoming 5k, working out, cleaning the house, hell even some volunteering.. and I've been getting compliments on my job performance which isn't too bad either.
On the flipside I find that when I do have time to log back into my current MMO of choice, or spend time researching my next big thing, I enjoy it a lot more.... its not as frustrating as it was near the end there where I just wanted to play, I just didn't have anything left to do.
I just work nowadays. Haven't subscribed to an MMO for well over 6 months now and haven't tried any free trials for any either. Instead of gaming I just get out of the house, read, go for a drive to places I wanted to go but never got around to. Doesn't look like any future games will grab my attention much.
You're not alone.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Yes I agree with the op mmo industry is really failing. We have moved to and industry which is turning towards item shops, payed betas and the going with mmos which have a lifetime of zilch:( startrek being the latest example of rush it out, hype to max and get investment back get some profit then let it explode...
I play eve and will wait until something worth while comes along which i might enjoy playing. But atm about the only appealing game im looking forward to is diablo 3 which is not and mmo.
This is not saying that some of the older mmos are,nt good I am quite sure some certainly have a following as are many are playing that gamewhile waiting for the smoke to clear and starts producing playable long term mmos again.
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Well I am a grandpa also. I am in the same situation you are. I imagine there is some burnout but I think its mostly the crap they call MMOs' today and the ADHD players.
Just did a dungeon run in a MMO and the stupid tank would not stop and let us mana users regain our mana. The healer told him to stop for a minute and to get mana or the heals would stop. He died and we got our mana break,
Also we had a rogue that spent most of his time jumping instead of fighting. Whats up with that ??
I gave up on MMOs once but I came back. If things don't change I may just go back to my Xbox and single player games.
I can understand the "almost" feeling. About a month ago, I was disappointed with the micro-transaction fever.
I think I was burnt out. So, I joined a few more game sites, tried games that I wouldn't normally try, and put my name in for Betas (and was lucky that some Beta that I had already applied for came through). That was enough of a break ...
I had to laugh at the poster who said for you to come back to gaming in a year or two ... by then we will probably be doing gaming with holograms. Gaming is progressing fast.
They are becoming increasingly boring because they aren't focusing on what makes MMOs so very different than other genres.
Socialization. This comes in many forms.
The biggest form is working with other people to affect change in the game world. DAoC and WAR gave us a taste of this on the PvP end of things. WAR gave us public quests which, if expanded upon, have a lot of potential of really revolutionizing the way people view PvE content.
LotRO does the non-combat forms very well. Their music system which is touched upon in one of the more recent articles on the front page has a lot of potential and small things like that go a long way towards keeping people for the long run.
Another important form of socializing is through economies. Craftable items should be a big part of games and help to create a nice flow of supply and demand.
Guild and Faction structures need to be expanded upon to allow growth beyond numbers. AoC is implementing a system that seems to pit guilds against eachother and it could lead to some interesting rivalries.
Solo quests aren't bad, but people should be encouraged to work together towards a common goal. People shouldn't be playing through the entire game completely on their own. Frodo didn't get the ring to Mordor on his own. Luke didn't single-handedly bring balance to the Force. Harry Potter only killed Voldemort because of help from others.
Heroes need help, and so should the heroes in MMOs. The epic adventures where people work together should be rewarded handsomely. Killing the rats infesting the poor little town shouldn't earn you a sword of 1000 truthes.
TL;DR
Bottom line, we need more pathes for advancement and we need more opportunities to work with others to accomplish great goals.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I can tell you that I am in the exact same state. Just an hour ago I came from Home Depot with some sheet metal and moldings for my house. Would I have done this if I had an mmorpg to use up my time? Nope. I am just finding ways to keep myself busy until the next big thing. Last time I legitly played an mmo was aion for a very short time when it came out. It's been about 3 months or so and I have not went this long without playing an mmo since the start of the decade. Quite sad on many levels lol.
Honestly, i think just not playing anything for awhile GREATLY affects your chances of loving something again. I haven't dedicated myself to a game in over 6 months through which i ended up playing literally every single game out there and then bought a ps3. Wow...the magic feeling of playing games as a kid were back, and ive been quite literally playing that only nowadays. I've also come to the conclusion that my passion for games has been affecting my social life so i was able to pay a lot more attention in that area too. Maybe im just grow out of MMO's or im just sick of them right now but ye at this point it simply feels pointless to play anything more than an hour a day.
You hit the nail on the head. Took the words right out of my mouth... Errr... The words right from my finger tips lol.
This was the boat I was in before I resubbed to Darkfall.
Now.....nothing gets done
I spent a few months playing the single player games I had missed out on, and checking on the status of a certain community-based pre-cu SWG project.
So sick and tired of the current trend of MMORPGs, and the next generation (STO, SW:TOR, etc) looks no better. If it weren't for DF, I wouldn't be playing one at all, probably.
SO glad I decided to see if I could still get a free transfer, and check the game out again. Now I can proceed to waste my time away in this chair like I did in the good ole' days of MMOs past
I understand where the OP is coming from. I think you need to decide if its truly fustration with the state od MMOs today or true "burnout". I feel this way about it: If its fustration you still yearn to play an MMO, you may have your other interests as well but that gaming hobby still has an itch to be scratched. If your suffering from burnout you may have been playing simply to many hours a week and your feeling anxious and angry as nothing seems to truly make you happy. Decide which one it is.
If you decide that it is truly fustration, well you may be fustrated a bit longer. I do agree in part, MMO's are going thru a bad period. How do I know this? Simple: If people will defend buggy games with bad customer service, constant crashes and many other issues, we know the MMO market is bad. The level of desperation is so high that inferior products are actually acceptable.
I am waiting on some of the new titles to hit this year to see if one of them becomes "the ONE" for me. Till then I am raiding in WOW and having some fun ICC. Im also working longer hours and spending more time with friends.
Current Games: WOW, EVE Online
I have to agree with the OP on this thread. Too many games doing the holding hands thing now. I don't want to reach max level in a month, two months, three months, four months, 5 or 6! It should take a hell of a long time to become max level on a massive MMO. Give me consequences for my deaths... gah, just, gah. I am burnt out on the genre and the way things have gone. I'm an old MUD and particularly DragonRealms player that started playing MMO's with Asheron's Call and played up to BC with WoW and Age of Conan. Since then I've quit and shake my head at the great majority of it.
I could go on an endless rant but I am waiting. I was hoping for Hero's Journey but that failed right onto its face. The new Star Wars MMO is what I'm going to give a try next. But yeah, I'm bored of it all. Old WoW was good, new WoW is bad... too easymode for me. I thrive in difficulty and hardship, and am used to old school games that took a lot of talent and dedication to beat. I'm too old now I guess, maybe I should rename myself grandpa even if I am in my 20's. I get tired of being #1 on my FPS servers too. BOOOOO. I'm going to sleep, haha!! Old man grumpy grampy needs his rest!
Its just how mmo cycles always go.
EQ was awesome but then after a few years i needed something dif so i played shadowbane and ffxi while going back to EQ from time to time and eventually blizzard announced they were making an MMO so i waited for that. Wow launched i bought it and played it a lot, then got tired of it.
Problem is the mmo market for a lot of people is at that inbetween stage where enough people still play wow that new MMOs dont get the huge player base they need to fund further development. So you get stuck with games like AoC and such that sound great but then dont live up to the initial ideas because of $$.
In a couple of years the next big thing will hit and unless blizzard does something amazing wow will go the same way eq did.. with vanguard and EQ2 being semi-flops in the grand scale.
Personally im hitting up my xbox and waiting untill ffxiv comes out because nothing i see coming out untill then looks that great, i might hit up a trial for lotro becuase that game was really fun, and i might re-activate my AoC account to see what the hype is about with its most improved game status.
Yeah I think im just burnt out on this genre, but I may not be. Ive been taking a break from FE because my cousin hasn't been able to play. I picked up Aion cuz I liked the beta but all there is from 1-25 is a quest grind. I enjoy PvP like taking and defending forts and so and love dungeon runs but Im lvl 14 and its a quest grind and tons of reading. Personally I'm not a big reader unless there is something going on like watching a movie or anime in Japanese. If something pops up like these dumbass quest scrolls that just tell you whats going on its hella fucking boring.
I loved how FFXI had cut scenes for their quests, you got to read something while there was something going on. I also love games by Bethesda and Bioware, Im currently playing Dragon Age and I love how you can interact with the NPC's. I really think this is what is lacking with MMORPG's, there is no interaction with NPC's besides that damn quest scroll pop up you get. The 2 games I am hella interested in right now is FFXIV because FFXI was the only game that kept my interest for a long ass time and SWTOR because I love Bioware and I like how everything is voiced over.
Short version and morel of the story for me is, WTF its 2010 do we need to read every fucking thing or what? I want full voice over of shit, I never have been a reader and never will be. I like interaction with NPC's and not feel like a damn gofer on every damn thing. I want a choice in telling this npc things and get different outcomes with my choices in MMORPG's like in offline RPG's.
Huh. I rather read "boring" quest books, so I can get a good feeling about what Im doing in the game, insteed of listing to voice actors boring reading of the same thing.
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Huh. I rather read "boring" quest books, so I can get a good feeling about what Im doing in the game, insteed of listing to voice actors boring reading of the same thing.
Yeah I guess were just 2 kinds of different people. Reading is just damn boring to me, I've hated reading since I could remember and Im 27. I love seeing and hearing things compared to imagining what they look and sound like. I say the more senses you get involved into something the better. If movies and games could involve touch and smell I would be set, even though it may suck to be in an area that smells because of all the dead bodies, it would be worth it to be more immersed.
Yeah I guess were just 2 kinds of different people. Reading is just damn boring to me, I've hated reading since I could remember and Im 27. I love seeing and hearing things for real compared to imagining what they look and sound like. I say the more senses you get involved into something the better.
Oh my. I can see that what I wrote could be read as a rather harsh comment. That was not my intention at all
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Yeah I guess were just 2 kinds of different people. Reading is just damn boring to me, I've hated reading since I could remember and Im 27. I love seeing and hearing things for real compared to imagining what they look and sound like. I say the more senses you get involved into something the better.
Oh my. I can see that what I wrote could be read as a rather harsh comment. That was not my intention at all
Oh no problems here, no offense taken. Like I said we are different, I can't except people to like the same thing as me, that would be boring. Some people are just different and love reading and some don't. I like more of a hands on type thing seeing, feeling, hearing, smelling type of guy. But some people can just read something and get all those things in their imagination. While I can try to imagine whats going on, I get a better grasp if I see and hear things going on.