If they donated 100 percent I would have been the first to applaud Blizzard . Even 50 percent . I'm sure this will be very welcome by the people it helps but you would have to be stupid beyond belief to think this was done for anything but the benefit of Activision Blizzard . Lets see them redeam themselves create a RMT pet and give all the proceeds to the victems of the Haiti disaster . RMT pets are acceptable if they are charity event and as such they are good PR for Blizzard . Taking a cut is a bit like taking a starving person out for a meal and eating it in front of them leaving them just the relish . Pretty rotten thing to do at the end of the day .
Oh and given its proberbly tax deductable I wonder if Blizzard did not only break even but maybe they made money out of the Make a wish foundation donation ?????
So long as it doesn't affect gameplay, I couldn't care less what they sell in the item shop. Whatever it is will be nothing more than a luxury item anyways, and those that purchase it have money enough to burn. What's the problem? If they started selling gear or gems, it would be a different story. But a non-combat pet? So what. It's hardly something to get worked up over. On the other hand, some folks seem to have made it a past time to get worked up over anything that let's them rant about the Great Satan that is Blizzard. Get over yourselves.
1.1 million is 1.1 million, and it's a hell of a lot more than I've given to charity lately. What about you?
Originally posted by Unlight and those that purchase it have money enough to burn.
That is the problem, if they had the money to burn they should have donated directly, instead they bought the item to feel good about themselves while padding Blizzards pockets. Blizzard knew this would happen, so this was nothing more then greed, no matter the good that came out of it it is the root that upsets and pisses me and others off. They should have given all profits over to Make A Wish not 50%.
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Well blizzard didn't donate anything the customers that bought the pets did.
Once again. Blizzard are not a charity, they donated half the proceeds to the bloody charity. Do u understand or is it to hard for you?. Id love to see the same peopel in the other thread with the Eve $40k donation say shit about CCP. Come on please start saying stuff about CCP.
CCP is immaculate, you can't talk bad about them. Plus, they have HTFU video, what blizz got? hmmmmm...
this goes to all blizz h8rs that wanna see blizz crash and burn. u r constantly talking about money bleeding, subscribers leaving and such. u do forget that wow has 10 000 000 + subscribers. with all taxes and all fees its a hell of a lot of money. they earned million on pets alone. now take in count server transfers, faction changes, name changes. add number of selled copies and then add massive amounts of money in the past few years.that is wow alone. what do you think..blizz NEEDS money? so they pull of this trick? give me a break. u ppl see hidden agendas in everything. they dont NEED money. they just want more of it.
this goes to all blizz h8rs that wanna see blizz crash and burn. u r constantly talking about money bleeding, subscribers leaving and such. u do forget that wow has 10 000 000 + subscribers. with all taxes and all fees its a hell of a lot of money. they earned million on pets alone. now take in count server transfers, faction changes, name changes. add number of selled copies and then add massive amounts of money in the past few years.that is wow alone. what do you think..blizz NEEDS money? so they pull of this trick? give me a break. u ppl see hidden agendas in everything. they dont NEED money. they just want more of it.
And that makes people want to pay them more? And how is that defending them? I mean that just makes them sound worse, I know they are greedy but most don't see that. You are not helping anything to be honest, lol.
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There's some strange folk in this forum, from those who think the answer to making a loss on your accounts is to donate money to charity - mmm... shareholders would be really impressed with that.
To those who cannot see the wood for the trees, "like yeah, they gave $1.1 million dollars to a charity, what bastards it could have paid for more GMs".
It seems that for some people their irrational hatred of a game (I've never hated a game, just decided not to play them, hate's a bit strong to waste on a game) has turned them into crazy people full stop.
Make a Wish is not the charity that would have gotten my money, but it is nonetheless a worthy cause and Blizzard should be congratulated for making some dying kids lives better.
And anybody who resents that, you need to take a long hard look at your priorities.
There's some strange folk in this forum, from those who think the answer to making a loss on your accounts is to donate money to charity - mmm... shareholders would be really impressed with that. To those who cannot see the wood for the trees, "like yeah, they gave $1.1 million dollars to a charity, what bastards it could have paid for more GMs". It seems that for some people their irrational hatred of a game (I've never hated a game, just decided not to play them, hate's a bit strong to waste on a game) has turned them into crazy people full stop. Make a Wish is not the charity that would have gotten my money, but it is nonetheless a worthy cause and Blizzard should be congratulated for making some dying kids lives better. And anybody who resents that, you need to take a long hard look at your priorities.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.
There's some strange folk in this forum, from those who think the answer to making a loss on your accounts is to donate money to charity - mmm... shareholders would be really impressed with that. To those who cannot see the wood for the trees, "like yeah, they gave $1.1 million dollars to a charity, what bastards it could have paid for more GMs". It seems that for some people their irrational hatred of a game (I've never hated a game, just decided not to play them, hate's a bit strong to waste on a game) has turned them into crazy people full stop. Make a Wish is not the charity that would have gotten my money, but it is nonetheless a worthy cause and Blizzard should be congratulated for making some dying kids lives better. And anybody who resents that, you need to take a long hard look at your priorities.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
If people are genuinely angry that a commercial operation uses a large charity donation to draw good will and enhance their profile, then they must be living on another planet in terms of their connection to the real world.
If there was no positive association for Blizzard from this then they would be unable to make the donation as it would make their actions illegal, companies are compelled by law to "make money for their shareholders" and if they aren't doing so then they are criminals.
There's some strange folk in this forum, from those who think the answer to making a loss on your accounts is to donate money to charity - mmm... shareholders would be really impressed with that. To those who cannot see the wood for the trees, "like yeah, they gave $1.1 million dollars to a charity, what bastards it could have paid for more GMs". It seems that for some people their irrational hatred of a game (I've never hated a game, just decided not to play them, hate's a bit strong to waste on a game) has turned them into crazy people full stop. Make a Wish is not the charity that would have gotten my money, but it is nonetheless a worthy cause and Blizzard should be congratulated for making some dying kids lives better. And anybody who resents that, you need to take a long hard look at your priorities.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
Yea, so?
Blizzard is still a Business that has a goal for making money.
As have been said before, they could have kept EVERYTHING to themself and cared less, but they decided to give 50% of their proceeds to the make a wish foundation.
People shouldn't care about how they go about donating the money, if the money gets there is what you should care about.
Try looking into other organizations like the red cross that actually takes some of the money people donate to help the victims in haiti and puts them somewhere else.
They're just trying to recover from the war of attrition that they are losing as they slowly bleed out subscribers. This game has long since lost its way from the land of great games so people are leaving.
Not true. With the recent addition of Dungeon Finder, many people are coming back to WoW. Its too bad that they took so long to add something like that.
Last time I checked kids love video games. Even dying kids. And I remember the day when one kid got his wish granted by Blizzard through Make-A-Wish and I thought how cool it was. That was 3 years ago. So since they have history with Make-A-Wish, why not give something back to them that would help even more kids while at the same time empowering gamers (some who happen to be kids) to think about others from time to time.
I say that's a win-win situation. Kudos to Blizzard for doing something, even at the expense of still appearing as the greedy corporate company we all know they are anyway. No big surprise there, but what really gets my goat are all the loud mouth tight-wads who find enough venom in their hearts to spew ignorance here even as they pass up holiday bell ringers every year without batting an eye.
Personally I'm happy to see Make-A-Wish get something, they granted my little cousin's wish to go to Disneyland and 2 of my neighbor's kids a pool for their backyard.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Have any of you actually ever seen, met or spoken with a child that was a Make A Wish recipient? I have. What Blizzard did was good. Stop thinking that the world revolves around you and your petty opinions. Show some compassion and act like human beings.
A lot of gamers are dicks. Mainly because most of them look like this and hate life knowing that the only thing they will ever screw is a light bulb in their mom's basement where they live.
Agreed, anyone taking a shot at Blizzard over this needs to remember that they didn't have to do anything. They were making millions before, and they will continue to do so. This was a great gesture and people looking to condemn them over it are just petty.
What the article leaves out is the profit of 1.1 Mil, the other 50% for a CASH SHOP ITEM! Blizzard deserves hell for selling a virtual item for money, and then only giving 1.1 Mil away, for a tax right off no less. Think smart.
I'm sorry, I thought this was MMORPG.COM which is a forum for people who like to pay money to companies who supply them with virtual worlds and the means to interact with those worlds by using avatars and virtual items. You must have been looking for this forum.
Access to a game, on a basis of a subscription is not a virtual item, just like renting from netflix is not a virtual item, it is access toa product for the duration of a subscription. Now pack your bags and troll elsewhere.
So, Companies who sell virtual pet software (desktop toys, tomadachis) should be given Hell? Does that mean that EA should be burned to the ground because you can create your own virtual worlds and then buy expansions, etc to ad flavor to your virtual world? How small and useless does a virtual item have to be before game companies need to be punished for selling them. If I was an Activision share holder, then I would be very happy with them for such a decision.
What I meant is that 1.1 mil came from the customers that bought these pets so technically blizzard didn't put a cent in the donate they just gave half the money they were earning from these pets that came out of "nowere" to not say on purpose.
What I wanted to say is they earn lots of money from the millions of people that plays their game what's giving 100% of the pets income or shell some of their stored money to make the donation look more clean and less to add the pet shop hiding it behind make-a-wish?
It's awesome that they donated to the MAW foundation. Though Blizzard giving out 1.1 mil is like me giving out 10 bucks, which is something of course, I tend to donate any time I get a chance ( have extra money). I would have liked to see them give more, but as others have pointed out, they're a business and their business isn't in charity work.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Can someone please explain to me why so many people hate blizzard? I would really like an explaintion that dosen't involve them making lots of money. Because newflash, they are a business and that's what businesses do!
Why is it when something becomes big and popular people start to hate on it? Bands, Movies, TV Shows, Businesses.
It's like there is this group of people out there that think it is cool to hate something that is popular.
Well GZ to Blizzard for doing this and to other companies and everyone else that donates.
I also agree with some people here about blizzard for example : blizzard is the facilitator but the real donor is the player that bought the pet ingame so the real heroes are the players with the help of blizzard not the other way around. And this applies to the other companies also.
And CCP (it was mentioned in this thread) donates all the money they make from plexes and do not keep anything !!!
Anyway this is the f....ed up world we're living in and before anyone does something good they contact their PR department but yea GZ again and remember to help when you can, others are not that lucky as we are. Have a nice day!
Of all the talk about companies being greedy, or screwing their player base, I can't think of better example of this than what Blizzard has just done and I am appalled. 50% of one pet equaled 1.1 million? So does that means they made 3.3 more on the other pet and the leftover 50% of the one they chose to donate with or did they choose the lower profitable of the 2 to use for the donation? Either way Blizzard won. That 1.1 mil is going to be a tax write off so they win again. Blizzard makes enough money that they don't need RMT's to donate what likely is a drop in the bucket of what they gross in a year.
The winner here is Make a Wish and I'm happy for that but I really think Blizzard could have done better. Shame on you Blizzard for fleecing your paying customers and shame on you fanboi's for defending them.
Of all the talk about companies being greedy, or screwing their player base, I can't think of better example of this than what Blizzard has just done and I am appalled. 50% of one pet equaled 1.1 million? So does that means they made 3.3 more on the other pet and the leftover 50% of the one they chose to donate with or did they choose the lower profitable of the 2 to use for the donation? Either way Blizzard won. That 1.1 mil is going to be a tax write off so they win again. Blizzard makes enough money that they don't need RMT's to donate what likely is a drop in the bucket of what they gross in a year. The winner here is Make a Wish and I'm happy for that but I really think Blizzard could have done better. Shame on you Blizzard for fleecing your paying customers and shame on you fanboi's for defending them.
You're entirely right.
Giving away to charity is nice and all, but this is nothing more than good PR, marketing at its best. There is no gracious donation taking place, and you've examined why. It's a greed-based move on their behalf. The fanbois will never see it for what it really is, however.
Blizzard did, does, and continues to do, the right things for the wrong reasons.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
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If they donated 100 percent I would have been the first to applaud Blizzard . Even 50 percent . I'm sure this will be very welcome by the people it helps but you would have to be stupid beyond belief to think this was done for anything but the benefit of Activision Blizzard . Lets see them redeam themselves create a RMT pet and give all the proceeds to the victems of the Haiti disaster . RMT pets are acceptable if they are charity event and as such they are good PR for Blizzard . Taking a cut is a bit like taking a starving person out for a meal and eating it in front of them leaving them just the relish . Pretty rotten thing to do at the end of the day .
Oh and given its proberbly tax deductable I wonder if Blizzard did not only break even but maybe they made money out of the Make a wish foundation donation ?????
Nice little earner .
So Blizzard made MILLIONS from selling in-game pets? People never cease to amaze me. Idiots.
So long as it doesn't affect gameplay, I couldn't care less what they sell in the item shop. Whatever it is will be nothing more than a luxury item anyways, and those that purchase it have money enough to burn. What's the problem? If they started selling gear or gems, it would be a different story. But a non-combat pet? So what. It's hardly something to get worked up over. On the other hand, some folks seem to have made it a past time to get worked up over anything that let's them rant about the Great Satan that is Blizzard. Get over yourselves.
1.1 million is 1.1 million, and it's a hell of a lot more than I've given to charity lately. What about you?
That is the problem, if they had the money to burn they should have donated directly, instead they bought the item to feel good about themselves while padding Blizzards pockets. Blizzard knew this would happen, so this was nothing more then greed, no matter the good that came out of it it is the root that upsets and pisses me and others off. They should have given all profits over to Make A Wish not 50%.
Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.
Once again. Blizzard are not a charity, they donated half the proceeds to the bloody charity. Do u understand or is it to hard for you?. Id love to see the same peopel in the other thread with the Eve $40k donation say shit about CCP. Come on please start saying stuff about CCP.
CCP is immaculate, you can't talk bad about them. Plus, they have HTFU video, what blizz got? hmmmmm...
Mr. Bagguns
this goes to all blizz h8rs that wanna see blizz crash and burn. u r constantly talking about money bleeding, subscribers leaving and such. u do forget that wow has 10 000 000 + subscribers. with all taxes and all fees its a hell of a lot of money. they earned million on pets alone. now take in count server transfers, faction changes, name changes. add number of selled copies and then add massive amounts of money in the past few years.that is wow alone. what do you think..blizz NEEDS money? so they pull of this trick? give me a break. u ppl see hidden agendas in everything. they dont NEED money. they just want more of it.
And that makes people want to pay them more? And how is that defending them? I mean that just makes them sound worse, I know they are greedy but most don't see that. You are not helping anything to be honest, lol.
Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.
There's some strange folk in this forum, from those who think the answer to making a loss on your accounts is to donate money to charity - mmm... shareholders would be really impressed with that.
To those who cannot see the wood for the trees, "like yeah, they gave $1.1 million dollars to a charity, what bastards it could have paid for more GMs".
It seems that for some people their irrational hatred of a game (I've never hated a game, just decided not to play them, hate's a bit strong to waste on a game) has turned them into crazy people full stop.
Make a Wish is not the charity that would have gotten my money, but it is nonetheless a worthy cause and Blizzard should be congratulated for making some dying kids lives better.
And anybody who resents that, you need to take a long hard look at your priorities.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
Owner/Admin of GodlessGamer.com - Gaming news and reviews for the godless.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
If people are genuinely angry that a commercial operation uses a large charity donation to draw good will and enhance their profile, then they must be living on another planet in terms of their connection to the real world.
If there was no positive association for Blizzard from this then they would be unable to make the donation as it would make their actions illegal, companies are compelled by law to "make money for their shareholders" and if they aren't doing so then they are criminals.
I don't hate the donation, never said that, I hate how Blizzard used the whole thing to gain more profit, and publicity while getting a tax cut all at the same time. Make A Wish is a good cause, and any help to them is a great thing, but the thing you fail to see is why people are pissed. It is not what they did, it is how they did it.
Yea, so?
Blizzard is still a Business that has a goal for making money.
As have been said before, they could have kept EVERYTHING to themself and cared less, but they decided to give 50% of their proceeds to the make a wish foundation.
People shouldn't care about how they go about donating the money, if the money gets there is what you should care about.
Try looking into other organizations like the red cross that actually takes some of the money people donate to help the victims in haiti and puts them somewhere else.
Not true. With the recent addition of Dungeon Finder, many people are coming back to WoW. Its too bad that they took so long to add something like that.
Last time I checked kids love video games. Even dying kids. And I remember the day when one kid got his wish granted by Blizzard through Make-A-Wish and I thought how cool it was. That was 3 years ago. So since they have history with Make-A-Wish, why not give something back to them that would help even more kids while at the same time empowering gamers (some who happen to be kids) to think about others from time to time.
I say that's a win-win situation. Kudos to Blizzard for doing something, even at the expense of still appearing as the greedy corporate company we all know they are anyway. No big surprise there, but what really gets my goat are all the loud mouth tight-wads who find enough venom in their hearts to spew ignorance here even as they pass up holiday bell ringers every year without batting an eye.
Personally I'm happy to see Make-A-Wish get something, they granted my little cousin's wish to go to Disneyland and 2 of my neighbor's kids a pool for their backyard.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Who knew 2.2 million dollars could be made from virtual pets....
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A lot of gamers are dicks. Mainly because most of them look like this and hate life knowing that the only thing they will ever screw is a light bulb in their mom's basement where they live.
Getting too old for this $&17!
What the article leaves out is the profit of 1.1 Mil, the other 50% for a CASH SHOP ITEM! Blizzard deserves hell for selling a virtual item for money, and then only giving 1.1 Mil away, for a tax right off no less. Think smart.
I'm sorry, I thought this was MMORPG.COM which is a forum for people who like to pay money to companies who supply them with virtual worlds and the means to interact with those worlds by using avatars and virtual items. You must have been looking for this forum.
Access to a game, on a basis of a subscription is not a virtual item, just like renting from netflix is not a virtual item, it is access toa product for the duration of a subscription. Now pack your bags and troll elsewhere.
So, Companies who sell virtual pet software (desktop toys, tomadachis) should be given Hell? Does that mean that EA should be burned to the ground because you can create your own virtual worlds and then buy expansions, etc to ad flavor to your virtual world? How small and useless does a virtual item have to be before game companies need to be punished for selling them. If I was an Activision share holder, then I would be very happy with them for such a decision.
A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire
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What I meant is that 1.1 mil came from the customers that bought these pets so technically blizzard didn't put a cent in the donate they just gave half the money they were earning from these pets that came out of "nowere" to not say on purpose.
What I wanted to say is they earn lots of money from the millions of people that plays their game what's giving 100% of the pets income or shell some of their stored money to make the donation look more clean and less to add the pet shop hiding it behind make-a-wish?
Kudos to Blizzard
I always wondered why there is no Make-A-Wish-like charity for adults who have terminal diseases, seems kind of unfair to me.
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It's awesome that they donated to the MAW foundation. Though Blizzard giving out 1.1 mil is like me giving out 10 bucks, which is something of course, I tend to donate any time I get a chance ( have extra money). I would have liked to see them give more, but as others have pointed out, they're a business and their business isn't in charity work.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Can someone please explain to me why so many people hate blizzard? I would really like an explaintion that dosen't involve them making lots of money. Because newflash, they are a business and that's what businesses do!
Why is it when something becomes big and popular people start to hate on it? Bands, Movies, TV Shows, Businesses.
It's like there is this group of people out there that think it is cool to hate something that is popular.
Well GZ to Blizzard for doing this and to other companies and everyone else that donates.
I also agree with some people here about blizzard for example : blizzard is the facilitator but the real donor is the player that bought the pet ingame so the real heroes are the players with the help of blizzard not the other way around. And this applies to the other companies also.
And CCP (it was mentioned in this thread) donates all the money they make from plexes and do not keep anything !!!
Anyway this is the f....ed up world we're living in and before anyone does something good they contact their PR department but yea GZ again and remember to help when you can, others are not that lucky as we are. Have a nice day!
Of all the talk about companies being greedy, or screwing their player base, I can't think of better example of this than what Blizzard has just done and I am appalled. 50% of one pet equaled 1.1 million? So does that means they made 3.3 more on the other pet and the leftover 50% of the one they chose to donate with or did they choose the lower profitable of the 2 to use for the donation? Either way Blizzard won. That 1.1 mil is going to be a tax write off so they win again. Blizzard makes enough money that they don't need RMT's to donate what likely is a drop in the bucket of what they gross in a year.
The winner here is Make a Wish and I'm happy for that but I really think Blizzard could have done better. Shame on you Blizzard for fleecing your paying customers and shame on you fanboi's for defending them.
You're entirely right.
Giving away to charity is nice and all, but this is nothing more than good PR, marketing at its best. There is no gracious donation taking place, and you've examined why. It's a greed-based move on their behalf. The fanbois will never see it for what it really is, however.
Blizzard did, does, and continues to do, the right things for the wrong reasons.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter