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Give us a second chance! but first buy our new expansion
Zholz
Member Posts: 29
What are they thinking? I played this game when it first came out and wanted to love it so badly but it sucked. I then gave it six months and tried it again because I was told they fixed so many things. Sadly, it still lost my interest quickly because it was nothing new.
Now Funcom is saying that they are getting the game to the point they wanted it at launch in the first place with fun and exciting content that should put this game back on the map as a top MMO. They also want old players to give their game another shot because they are happy with where their game is at but once again they are asking people to sub and buy the expansion to see this new content.
This makes me so angry, I would love to try out the new expansion maybe even rerole one of the new races and subscribe to this game once more but to ask that I buy another box from them is garbage.
If someone has something helpful to add please do because this just pisses me off
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Yes shame on Funcom for publishing an expansion, no other MMO Developer does this.
On a serious note tho, did you expect them to give you the expansion for free ? As much as they might want more people to join, im sure they would like to actually pay their staff just as much.
I understand why you would be angry as it's kind of a bummer they aren't offering any comeback campaigns. However expecting them to just give us the expansion isn't exactly fair either. They've added plenty of free content to the game, lots actually.
Now they're adding (most reports indicate) a ton of new content, that's what an expansions is, it's no surprise they're charging for it.
I've been back to AOC for a little over a month, it's improved by leaps and bounds since the last time I played it. In both technical aspect as well as offered content.
I know you want something posted that is helpful to your situation, however I really can't say I back your complaint 100% as I've enjoyed what I've experienced since coming back. For me it's the first MMO i've thoroughly enjoyed since I quit SWG in 05'. I'm more than willing to pay for this coming expansion. Also in game you wouldn't believe how many Kappa's I've seen (ROTGS pre-order item), more than half of the people I see (lvls 50-80) have one. Which says the playerbase is more than happy with what they are offering.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I don't think the OP is upset that they're charging for an expansion. I think he's upset because this expansion is supposed to put the game "where they wanted it at launch." Basically, he feels that he has to pay for content that should've been there from the start.
We've all seen this argument before. Too many times, in fact. And even when games patch in content that should've been there at launch (WAR's classes, for example), they rarely get any praise for it. More of an "about time" attitude. At least Mark had the balls to come out and say, "We're cutting cities and 4 classes. Sorry. We'll try to get them back in ASAP."
If it makes it in, it makes it in. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I remember some of the launch controversy around AoC, people claiming that Funcom was falsely advertising because the game didn't deliver the features on the box (such as DX10). I laughed.
I seriously don't understand, should they release an expansion for free? I'm confused why funcom gets the shit, when no other company who does the same thing gets anything? Funcom this and funcom that. I'm glad they are working on the game, and are brining out so much new content. But it seems like no matter what they do, people will bash and complain on everything. I'm almost at loss for words.
I just don't know how you can hate and come with outrageous accusations because a game you had your own idea about didn't turn out to be like your dream. Its not like you tried the game a year before it was released and you had a good idea how the game was going to be, then at launch it was completely different?
In a perfect world they would toss everything around for free, and everything would be as you expect, but that mentality is just absurd to even mention in the real world. Bewildered, yes I am.
I am seeing a lot of games now that are able to launch free expansion because they know the player base will grow which will bring in more subscriptions. That is a totally legit way to pay their bills.
I suppose I should just wait until I can at least get a trial or a Veteran player promotion. I don't know, I guess I was just hoping someone could help me see past my possible irrational thought process because I was hoping for something it's not.
I haven't seen a single p2p title that offered a free expansion. Content updates, yeah, but not full fledged expansions.
What Triple A title (yes AOC was launched as this) has published free expansion ?
I think EVE did it, but that's about it.
Actually Funcom was offering the expansio for free with a 12 months subscription that ended up costing arround 10$ a month. not sure if they are still offering that but there ya go. they did offer it free .....well sort of.
In EVE's case they rarley release an expansion that needs a full blown development team though. Most of the time their expansions offer systems changes and additions, rather than creating all new content, area's, graphical enhancements and so on... The one expansion they've been showing that would take all of this (walking in stations) has been slow moving if not arguably vaporware..
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This is taking the topic in the wrong direction but EVE has done a great job of releasing tons of expansions for free. That have added tons of content, graphic upgrades and new features and they do it almost twice a year... not to mention, they have not once charged for any of them and their game continues to grow.
Ah, ok, but go ahead, name another one
I'ts not WoW, not LotrO, not EQ2, not GW, not Aion - oh wait, Aion has no expansions... well, I guess you catch the drift. It'd be nice, free expansions, but it's not the norm.
They did add a lot of free content areas, but that's not the same as an expansion.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
ya, this is an epic weak concept... This game is good enough, that I think a trial could gain some ground for them, but no one is ready to make another purchase into this IP.
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Lol. You're joking, right?
I could name you 20 out of the top of my head
(and yes, there'd be some among them who play AoC now).
I know, that was a silly comment, but there are enough people who've returned lately after having been gone from AoC for a long time who'll dig into the expansion too, and also enough people who want to give AoC a 2nd and the expansion a 1st chance.
Btw, there IS a free trial possible for the original AoC.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Those games had large enough followings two years out. I will say one thing WoW added about one AoC expansion worth of stuff before the expansion but then this is what I don't get. WoW goes ahead an lets many players and recognized guilds beta test the expansion and then they lift NDA about a month before release so there are videos all over the place and the expansion was well bug tested and everyone know the new class skills and talent trees. After the original AoC launch I am sceptical of buying a pig in a poke and I'm sure most rational MMO players are the same so I don't get why AoC would not do the same? If the expansion was awesome why is NDA up before it releases? I follow AoC and know nothing about it aside from it haveing 4 end game zone areas and two dungeans which sounds like very little.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
Funcoms problems with AoC were mainly due to the idiot who was running the game at the time when it was released broken and incomplete. Since the current producer took over the game has changed for the better. So I would wait and see how this expansion is received by current community members of the game. I think there will be server issues like any other game when it is release day. But I would expect every whiner to posts here when something does go wrong. It will especially happen when TOR is released. I can't wait for that blood festival!
PS- Incarna is worth the wait.
Champions online did it.
They call them "expansions" others call them "Patches".
Which one of the "tons of expansions" in EVE would you have paid nearly full box price for if they charged for them? At least when Lotro adds new free content, they dont have the nerve to call it an expansion. But you said yourself that maybe you should wait for a veteran promotion or something. Keep in mind though that if you didn't like the core mechanics of the game, no matter how much stuff they give you for free, you will still not like the game.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
There's no second chances for this game from me. They were fully aware of problems their game had with certain ATI cards and they didn't fix them in my introductory month. What's worse is they completely ignored the problem even after they had a thread with over a thousand posts on it.
It's the only mmo disc I ever bought that I actually pulled out of my hard drive and threw into the garbage.
War Hammer Online - Land of The Dead.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Chargeable expansions for EVE Online has no meaning.
The expansions are inseparable part of the game and as such can't be compared to any other game expansion nor does any other game gets twice a year major content update.
You can check the history of evolution of EVE Online here:
http://www.eveonline.com/features/
I think you missed my point but still managed to answer my question. Weird... Besides, you are mistaken about EVE and that no other mmo gets a twice a year major content update.
You can check the history of evolution of Lotro here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online:_Shadows_of_Angmar
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
No need to be angry. This only proves the fact that they are desperate and that AoC is slowly but surely sinking. Like when they introduced micro with possibiltiy to purchase pets and other things. No respectable MMO would ever try to rip off subscribers in such an obvious way.
I have just given AoC another try few days ago and just can't get into it. Its only few days so I'll give it a chance for the whole month before making decisions but with already one crash to desktop and low server population I can only say so far so bad...
Speaking strictly of time scale, LOTRO does get updated sort of twice a year but it is nothing like steady development cycle of 2 content updates per year.
Otherwise development models are completely incomparable.
What was your point I have supposedly missed?