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It's not full loot pvp, or world pvp, awsome dungeons, no instances, or even the community like I thought it was... In ever MMO I have played, the part that I enjoyed the most was simply standing in the most populated areas, and trade hubs, AND TRADING!
It's thrilling to find good deals and to increase your wealth through power trading! Specifically trading the rare party hats and holiday items in Runescape and GuildWars. Does anyone know any other MMO's that would have a good environment for a player like me?
edit* And I know it sounds terrible, but I use to enjoy scamming people in games like this. Not in a serious way, like im sending out a virus thats going to hack your account, but I mean being strategic in getting good deals, to the point where sometimes I would lie about things or take advantage of peoples ignorance of the prices.
I hate to say that I enjoyed doing that, but I did! I think it comes from the fact that I am a very honest person in real life, I have very strong morales and online games allow me to let go of that and play the devils advocate haha.
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I thought you were going to say 'the community'. *sigh*
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You enjoy taking advantage of people?
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Lots of people do. In fact, that's what a lot of people who advocate grouping do, they just want to use a bunch of other people to get things they cannot get on their own, they are using the time and energy of others to get stuff. They're just not honest about it.
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That makes me a sad panda.
In an MMO I don't have a problem with taking advantage of someone, for example; If I am trying to buy an item off of a person and I get the feeling that they have no idea how much it is worth I am going to give a low offer. If I'm trying to sell an item, I will try to sell to people don't have a good idea of it's value, i might tell them the current offer is 100gold when the item is only worth 40g.
So yes I do take advantage of people in MMOS and I don't feel bad because It is in a light- hearted setting, a video game. In real life I am very apposed to things like this, how I act in an MMO is not a reflection of who I am in real life. I am ok with this attitude in a video game because it is not a serious environment, your life and well being is not at stake.
Lets say I get an expensive item for cheap because the seller didn't know it was actually a valuable item, he may be upset when he finds out about its real value, understandable. Now, some people will let this game them down in real life, for weeks! the way I see it, this is THEIR problem for having so much emotional investment in a VIDEO GAME. If I get scammed in a video game, sure I will be a little upset, but it does not effect my daily life OUTSIDE of the game! I do not get emotionally involved in a game, real life ALWAYS comes first.
In a sense, when I play MMO's, I am always ROLEPLAYING as a kindof Mafia type character. And I think MMOs need people that do this! It's what has created the online games that we all love so much, UO, AC, SWG. These games all had worlds full of scammers, heroes, fighters, crafters, spammers, groupers, soloers. It all adds to the excitement of the game! How much more exciting is the trading process when you have to think about more than just Open trade screen>Accept offer.
I did that sometimes in real too like buying a gameboy advance for 25 with 5 games after 1 week I got sick of it and sold it to some guy online for 25 with 3 games and the rest 2 sold them to a friend for 5 hehe
The problem OP to find a game that you can take advantage of the market price doesn't have to have auction but player shops since the prices are usually different from each other and sometimes hard tot find what you need so the first person they find selling x item they may buy it from him/her.
Ether saga and a bit aion were the last games I played that you could get better deals from random people selling in shops then auctions sometimes but aion has also auction house so gonna be a bit harder to "trick" people.
Anyways unless you hate f2p it's gonna be a bit hard to find a modern p2p mmorpg that doesn't use an auction but only player made shops.
Your so right haha, I didn't think about that but it makes sense that the recent addition of Auction houses to MMO's is what killed this kindof thing for me.
Trading used to be such fun. I remember standing in a hut in Kelethin with my box of wares, and negotiating with the other folks over their wares. Good times.
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First an answer, EVE. Scamming is considered a fine art there.
Second it was this typo that attracted me to the post. I typo a lot too. But would a "strong morales" be: http://www.life.com/image/82249531
I still play ROSE online from time to time just to craft and trade,no game has come close to the trading/crafting in that game for me.The items you create have random stats and you would hope to get the best stat set for the class the gear was for to sell for loads!Also the items you made was really cool,cute though mind,like wings,face masks and costume sets,again all with random stats on them.Also there was no AH,you set up your little store with a selling and buying tab.Go afk come back and hope to find your stuff sold and be restocked on mats to make more...good times
I never thought about it, but the OP is exactly right. I have played every MMO out there..... literally. Right now I am taking a break, considering Darkfall again, but for the most part playing BC2 and Supcom2.
The only thing that I actually miss from mmos is making a crap ton of items, making a few alts, and playing a quick market control game through my 3 alts. Turn the money around to buy up the rares and try the same thing again.
Playing the market is always fun. Its another facet of the game that single player titles can never touch on. The gold grind can be as exciting as the skill grind.
yes! haha. Playing the market is an artform, it takes a strategic use of language (knowing when to say things) and it takes alot of creativity, coming up with ways to make money.