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The Top 10 Reasons People Hate SWTOR
Thedrizzle
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After doing some research in other threads, I found out why people REALLY hate SWTOR. (To me it just seems ludacris)
1. It’s popular and it’s a mainstream title.
2. Because everyone on this forum hate’s all games that may do well.
3. The game is to, “instanced”.
4. It’s too much like a single player RPG.
5. Bioware is backed by EA.
6. Too much voice over and cinematic graphics.
7. The combat is too fast paced for an MMO.
8. The graphics are too, “cartoony”.
9. Bioware has never made an MMO they should stick to single player games.
10. It’s a WoW clone in space. (Gotta love the term, every game released post WoW has been dubbed, “WoW Clone”)
And there ya have it! So all of us following SWTOR need to suck it up and move o to the next big WoW clone ;-)
My Blog following SWTOR. No i'm not a fanboi, my motive is much more sinister.: http://swtormmo.org/?p=47
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Yeah, that seems to be the main reasons on the forums for many. For me though its kind of close to but not quite the WoW clone thing. It's just that, other than it being fully voice acted (which to me means very little) I have yet to see anything that seperates this game from 90% of the market as far as gameplay mechanics, features, content, etc. And no the companion system is not new either, it's barely any different than whats been used in a few other games, some of them quite old (such as PSO/PSU). Im hoping they release some info that does make me want to play it, but up until now everything ive seen just gives me that feeling of "Eh, looks ok, maybe ill check it out".
We'll just have to wait for more info, with their being so little info regarding the game atm, thats why I thought this list would be a hoot.
I think the biggest problem with SW:TOR is that people are focusing too much on what it is not instead of what it is.
Negatively or positively?
Swtor seem to be the most hated MMO right now. BW released very little info and people still find some way to hate it.
1. True.
2. True.
3. Troll BS, not backed by any actual facts.
4. Refer to 3.
5. Cool story, brah!
6. Has the game been released yet for people to know whether there is too much or too little?
7. Seriously, if I didnt know any better Id almost believe that the game was out.
8. Real gamers do not care about graphics.
9. WoW was blizzard's 1st mmo, and something I dont really know what, tells me that its pretty damn successful. Maybe its the 11 million subscribers.
10. Umm, didnt you hear the latest knews. Real life is a WoW clone. So in the great question of what came 1st, the chicken or the egg, the answer is simple. World of Warcraft.
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
How in Gods name can anyone hate a Game that is not even Beta Testing yet?
No matter though...Most of the haters will be Playing from the start anyway...Then we'll see what happens...I'm guessing, like WOW, there will be plenty of Folks hating it while millions love it...
My words Exactly.
our society tells us to criticize change. like those kids in school who had mowhawks and were considered the outcasts now every tom and dick style there hair like that.
Anything that might make us change our way of thinking is bad. mmoer's are drilled WoW is good.then you have people who defy what they are told , wow is Bad. those are the rebels or your so called noconformist's.
In the end we follow the masses. we are one mind. if stwor does good and people like it then Tada 15 million subs.
IMO just ignore the people who have alot of opinions. because opinions are like......
Maybe, but the bottom line is we are consumers and they are a business selling something. The majority of people know what they like and if they don't like what they've seen so far (and judging how much has been seen is irrelevant) or heard from the devs there's nothing wrong with voicing an opinion that they aren't interested in what direction the game is going at this point. Sure, there's no real reason for trying to fortell "doooooom" for it. But saying that what one has seen in developer interviews doesn't give much promise for the game being something one would purchase is buy no means out of bounds and certainly not grounds for the backlash that some on these forums go into because someone stated such.
I mean, I have a drinking buddy who is working on this title and I've told him that though I love him like a brother I'm not buying his game. He gets it, though, and understands that nowhere is it written that a person has to automatically give a game a try based on it's own merits. Especially not when there is a monetary exchange involved.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
Opinions are opinions, my friend. But false information and idiotic presentation is trolling. Trolls do not deserve opinions.
PS I meant the combination of false info and idiotic presentation. I am known for certain cases of idiotic presentation.
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
LOL, funny. Thanks for the chuckle.
Thats what Im here for, bro.
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
Touche. I Liked WoW in the begining and had a good time playing for a year or so post release, but pre-release WoW also had many critics. I guess all games are like that post 2000. Back in the day pre-UO release we didn't know anything else so UO was like a godsend. (i always feel like an old fart referencing UO)
I was a huge fan of Mythic and when WAR was released I defended it through and through, but in the end the consumers were right. Its really hard to tell, although mid beta we can really start getting a feel for the game to see if its even worth our time and the initial 60 bucks it may cost.
I may run a blog for the game, but i'm not sold yet and I won't be till: A. I get to test in beta or B: I play the first month and figure out if its worth my time.
-Sin
I just find it humerous that the rabid fans defending TOR say that we don't know enough about the game to criticize it, but they know enough about the game to say how great its going to be and how much fun they are going to have playing it.
Just like it's cool to be excited about a game that is made by Bioware, but you are a troll if you are concerned about EAs involvement.
Im sorry, I dont really feel like reading thru this so Im gonna go ahead and ask you to point out an instance in this thread where someone talked about how great the game IS going to be. Like for sure.
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
Honestly, TOR is not the most hated. The truth is, It's nothing more than a select few that troll every game forum with opinions they try and push off as actual facts about the game in question. They disregard the truths that the developers release and twist them into nothing more than hate to try and discourage others from being interested in the game for they think it will somehow ruin the game they are playing.
You would think that if they were having so much fun playing whatever game, they wouldn't be cruising these forums bitching and moaning everyday like they do. I personally have played many games, some i liked and some i didn't. Take EVE for example. I played it, it wasn't for me, so i quit and moved on. I didn't go to their forums on this site and start bad mouthing the game because it turned out i didn't like it.
I honestly can't understand, when did people start to think that MMORPG's were supposed to be made for everyone to like them. I mean, everyone has differant tastes, likes and dislikes. Why does some think that TOR or any game is being made especially for them alone and not being made for a much broader audience.
The old saying goes, when you're the one riding the tallest in the saddle you are the first target for the arrows. Well, TOR has been the tallest target for awhile now, so it's only human nature to try and tear it down. I have a funny feeling though, that now GW2 is riding high, it won't be long before the naysayers and doombringers turn their attention on it.
I'm not speaking of the people that make up things and then state them. I'm more talking about folks that read an interview and based on things said in the interview voice that they don't find that dev's information on the game palatable enough to merit a $50-$60 box sale.
Take my personal "gripe" (not really a gripe as I'm not upset or angry) of crafting. Vogel is on record saying that he didn't want it in at first but that a dev told him he had an idea for it. Vogel said cool, but that he just didn't want crafting getting in the way of characters/players "being heroic". Now, to me, that sounds like they have little intention of creating a robust, deep crafting system. No way to actually know until we see it, but the context clues so far point to it being so.
That's a turn off to me personally so at this point I'm not buying it. Now, if that were to 180 and we come to find that the crafting system is indded just as robust as "that other game I can't mention because my asbestos suit is at the cleaners", then yeah, I'd give it a try. But I'm not going to commit to even trying the game when I know that a game mechanic that I'm most interested in is currently being viewed by the developers as it is. Again, future interviews could change my mind, but I'm not holding my breath.
MMOs are changing to accessible, casual, combat heavy, item mall games which means this old dice roller who got in in 1997 is going to have to go back to table-top gaming. Which isn't a bad thing, mind you. Sure, I'd like there to be games out there for me, but with the current MMO design trends that isn't happening. I'd hate to give up MMO gaming, but I'm not going to spend money on something I know won't interest me. I don't have to get "foot-on" experience of a kick to the groin to know I wouildn't enjoy it. The same goes for when a developer talks about what they are doing with a game. I know what sounds enjoyable for me and what doesn't. And saying so doesn't make me a hater. Just makes me a person expressing an opinion.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
Seriously, I created this thread cause I found it funny regarding the reasons why people claim they will never play the game. I never once stated it was great, hell i know as much about the game as the next guy, which isn't much.
Disgruntled hater? I cant hate any game till i play it, even one made by EA or SOE, just because a game sh*t the bed doesn't mean every game released by a company is going to. Practice makes perfect. Regarding BIOWARE, only games i played by them were the Never Winter Nights series and Baldurs Gate, liked them both, BIOWARE can most definitly dreate a crappy MMO, but im gonna hold judgment till i play it.
1 Point Masta Sha... I mean The Drizzle
0 Point Trolls
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
I never made any claim about people in this thread, just like your initial post, I pointed out commonalities across these forums. If you had looked at my post history, before calling names, you would have seen that I'm actually waiting to get in beta or play a trial before I pass judgement. Evidently I was right in my assessment and it's ok to poke fun in one direction, but offensive to do it in your direction.
Eh they'll play the game.
When everyone is playing it, they'll play.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
I agree with this 100% in theory. In practice, not so much, lol. When SOE nuked by Doctor as far as the consumables he made and sold and then super H bombed my Creature Handler, man, if that isn't a GTFO we don't want you as a customer message in a gaming context then I don't know what is, hehehe. So, as a consumer I just don't buy their products (across the board) anymore.
Now, agreeing with your point, I was with the those who were surprised with Turbine's recent LOTRO F2P announcement. I personally think it's a "stupid" move, but I'm not an accountant and I don't have access to their numbers supporting it. I don't play DDO or LOTRO but I have played both in the past (and have 2 Lifetimes with LOTRO). That said, if they announced AC3 and ith ad gameplay/mechanics akin to the AC1, and they still offered their hybrid payment system, there's a 90% probablility I'd buy a full subscritption. The 10% chance not to would be based on how necessary or how much "comfort" the item mall items relate to gameplay.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
Lol, sorry, the Army taught me not to be a sheep.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
Lol at #8 "real gamers". Fake gamers enjoy good graphics.