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Is lotro and eq2 my only choices for a decent pve mmo grouping experience?
Angelbound
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Well actually eq2 is more of a solo game now which I forgot and really do not like soe much even though the classes are fun.
My issue with lotro is I am not finding the classes fun yet into the 20s so far and just not feeling like I am getting enough attacks or enjoying the visuals on most classes.
There has got to be something else any suggestions?
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Last time I played DDO groups were fairly easy to find. To me they seemed much more zerg-ish than holy trinity, but runs went plenty fast and I seldom saw people drop out.
Try Rift This site has no keys for it but heres a link the Test is December 3rd
It is a RPG
http://www.gamespot.com/event/codes/rift/?tag=gumballs%3Bimg%3B2
EQ2 actually punishes folks for grouping.... my buddy and i got into our high 50's... and had we Not grouped while we leveled together... we would have been quite a bit higher level... sad really
Age of Conan is actually one of the bette pve mmos on the current market, if you can get a group for the end game.
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Oh tried age of conan I just couldnt get into that game not sure why really. On ddo when I asked I heard allot of melee classes only spam like one or 2 attacks I am more interested in range but I that is only the wizard that gets many spells and the ranger doesnt get many flashy arrow atks and fairly boring melee skills.
Eq2s lower level content used to be group based but isn't any more. Now there are just a few dungeons under 60 that ever gets groups and people solo up so fast that running lower dungeons hardly is worth the work.
But after you reach Kunark it start to turn and in the latest 2 expansions are Dungeons the main focus, people need to run them alot to get good gear and master skills.
EQ2 is one of the games that have gotten too old, so all older and lower level content is just something people skip by as fast as possible, Wow who is as old have the same problem. It is one of the sad things that eventually happen to MMOs.
Since I never played EQ2X I don't know if dungeons are more popular there at lower levels but with the P2P servers most people are close to max level and very little happens in the lower zones. The people who makes alts rushes through the content as fast a s possible and since gear matters little the time you earns when you level faster in a group usually isn't enough since getting a PUG together takes time.
Try Vanguard instead, it is newer and have more focus on dungeons for the entire game. Or you can fast level up a EQ2 char until you hit the last expansions, after that groups are plenty.
Sounds like you want to play WoW.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
DDO for grouping. Typical today MMOs just lack the incentives to group, while DDO is all about instances.
The only melee that has variety of moves is monk.
Then again DDO has a lot of movement in combat, it is like complaining FPSs are boring because guns do not have twenty different modes each. Yes, you can dodge or block attacks in DDO.
Edit: And indeed you can play everyones favorite WoW. You have your PUG tool, you have battlegrounds.
What exactly are you looking for in your PvE game?
LotRO and EQ2 both recently went F2P....theres a reason why they couldn't make money off subscriptions.
What classes have you tried in LOTRO?
I would recommend trying out all of the classes before you give up on the game. They each play very differently.
Also as far as the visuals go, both attack animations and particle effects are controlled by your graphics settings so make sure the respective settings are turned all the way up.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Yes because companies that make money don't want to make more money... Makes perfect sense!
oh wait!
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
They still had pretty large communities, the reason is that Turbine think they can get more money that way. Eq2 tries to do both ways and have F2P servers and P2P servers.
But both games did rather fine compared to most games, Wow and Eve did better but otherwise few games actually have so many subs. FF XI also possible.
Only one such game exists >>FFXI.
I wouldn't join it however unless you got together 6 people that are willing to experience the game,by that i mean not just leveling.It is actually prime to get a total of maybe 12 people,split into a 2 group Linkshell.This way they can organize things to do into 2 different groups in case people can't always be on the same time.
If you can attain 6 or 12 people this game is truly rewarding as it not only has unique combat but is very challenging.Many games you can fight 6 mobs at once,in FFXI only a skilled group could possibly survive more than 2.Often in FFXI it is more challenging to fight one average mob in a group ,than some raiding in other games>>>>how many have died to Goblin Smithy in jungle??
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Vg is a bit time consuming for me and I found the combat to wierd there is something wrong with the combat espically on the ranger and found the special effects more subtle then lotros so far.
And you make a good point about lotro and eq2, shudders wow, as much as I hate to admit it might be my only choice I am almost emberassed to say I am trying it again while it it somewhat lacking in vairety of abilities it is better then most games, its just the community and the night elf models espically the arms they look like gorillias, terrible character customization I am truly emberassed trying again almost like one of those things you never admit you do like watch a chic flick by yourself rofl.
I am however trying some of the rp servers earten ring seems alright so far, so maybe I will have better luck with the community just wished there was a better choice sigh, thanks for all the help guys.
Vindictus is by far my favorite PvE game atm
Not a huge fan of instanced-based games, but I love group play and being able to assign different challenges for a run.
Im afraid of f2p games honestly terrible communities atleast lotros picks up after the lowbie zones its still kind of bad though.
Maybe I should force myself to get into a more pvp focused game like eve or darkfall I enjoy pvp but I do not enjoy pvping with egomaniacs and people who throw a temper tampram because a gnome beat a human.
WoW, AoC, CoH, & DDO are some others. Out of that batch personally I think DDO and WoW are the best ones. I find it hard to believe you haven't played WoW though so maybe AoC? I personally think both LotR and EQ2 are better than AoC but if you haven't tried it out yet may want to give their trial a go. Different strokes for different folks and all...
Then again if you thought EQ2 was too solo oriented doubt your opinion will be any different with AoC. Could always give FFXI a whirl.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Last time I played EQ2 it was solo based and you couldn't find groups, in fact it was easier than WoW now. Lotro just had the most horrible character models, animations and the most boring combat/classes so I didn't even bother past the starter area.
Well I still have a few weeks left in lotro so I am not giving up yet so far captain at 28 on paper perfect for me but got bored with the slow 2h melee style and his animations very dissapointed, hunter lacks in not enough attacks he is filled up with other tools which is nice but mostly ports later. Actually he has more melee attacks then ranged he has enough but I need more ranged attacks is what I am trying to say. Loremaster played it for a bit and do not want to wait until level 40 to have fun maybe after I max another toon out first.
Decided to finally give warden a try it sounds like I might really enjoy it and its flashy.
Well it's a little misleading to say Turbine "thinks they can get more money that way". They pretty clearly know they can make more money that way. Not many products in business get to claim that their revenues increase by 200% and 500% due to a fairly simple change.
As for a good group PVE game, ever since Dungeon Finder WOW is flat out the best PVE small-group game out there (made it so that you level in groups rather than soloing 24/7.) Still a bit disappointing that it ends in a raiding game, but everything up til that point is awesome.
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WoW and Eq2 aren't the only games where players group up a lot. In fact there are better grouping games than either WoW or Eq2 for grouping. Try Vindictus as that game is almost pure group play after the tuturial.
Nexon Fail. Dont do it
Believe it or not Aion has turned into a really good PVE oriented game.. And finding a group in it is pretty easy. You want flashy? well you cant get more flashy thant it most likely at least not currently.
lol. That made my day
FFXI (not the new one) is also very group oriented. Been a few years since I last played it, but you can pick up the collectors edition or whatnot from Direct2Drive for $10. Heard they even added a level sync so higher levels could play with the lower levels.