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The potential of the kinect system..

exestenz69exestenz69 Member Posts: 121

If no one else has saw this system in action or tried it out or even read the reviews about it you really should. you can get a basic ideal of what it does here

 

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66328

This system that brings game interaction between human and machine that much closer is an awesome piece of tech. The potential of this one piece of hardware is so extreme that i doubt many people truly understand it. I have saw on TV just over the past few weeks since its launch the fitness programs , the different different interaction games made for this.

My problem is why hasn't this tech been identified as usable by different aspects of the training market. This tech could potentially be used for limitless training purposes.

Think of training in any martial art. Any type of physical training involving human movement. Being military i could give you countless ways this tech could be used to train soldiers. While i can surely see the practical use in hacking it to make hand pupets http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2010-11/five-hacks-free-microsofts-kinect-xbox   There are so many more useful things we could do with this its pathetic.

So tell me what do you think

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Comments

  • SpasticolonSpasticolon Member Posts: 178

    For Martial arts, I think that a qualified instructor is the best bet to make sure you have (near)perfect form at all times and are learning the safest way to perform the moves. You could do some serious injury to yourself, or god forbid someone else (Yes, Martial Art, but if you are trying to be non lethal, not being in perfect form may kill someone)

    I can see it as a helpful asset and a training aid, but not as a replacement for a qualified instructor. However, if some company wants to make a quick buck and dont give two figs about personal safety, by all means, release a UFC Fighting instructor, just make the lawyers go through a fine tooth comb and work their magic to avoid lawsuits.

  • JakdstripperJakdstripper Member RarePosts: 2,410

    i have my own opinion on why us gamers prefer to play video games instead of going out and playing sports or other such activites. simply put if i want to run arround and exert myself phisically i go outside and play sports, if i want to sit on my couch and entertain myself with the least exertion possible i play video games. combining the two just feels weird, and you end up basicly trying to do both and enjoying neither.

    but all the more power to those that like it.

  • lordtwistedlordtwisted Member UncommonPosts: 570

    I agree for the most part, when it comes to most things that require instructions, and true instructor is best. With the above example, a real instructor can see your entire body, and postion.

     From what I understand the kinect more or less sees a 2 dimensional stick figure.

     

    As for other forms of training, such as the lower less complex forms of yoga this gizmo would be pretty cool, for the dancing games, sounds like a blast.

    I think this "controller" is built to be fun, not educational, although it certainlly has some great potential in that area too. Wouldn't it be cool if you could be in a fighting game, or an mmo and your avatar does exactly what you do, and not some preprogrammed movement.

    What if I am pairing up against subzero, and he misses me, I might just want to stick my tounge out and say "neener, neener, neener".

    Not so nice guy!

  • exestenz69exestenz69 Member Posts: 121

    The thing is don't just think of this as a 1 kinect possibility. Think of it this way.

     

    you have interconnected 4 of these things in a square room. These rooms are then scanned from all 4 sides and input into a program that then transmits an exact picture across the net to any point on the earth. Like the guy above i did not in any way mean for EA to come out with a UFC type game trainer m8. My ideal puts the trainer from anywhere on the planet in the same room with you via this system converted to project the image of the trainer directly in front of you the way you are projected directly in front of him. Again see the hand puppet hack. You might need double the amount of systems linked together 4 to transmit and 4 to receive but its still doable.

    This would allow a trainer from any point on the planet to train any fighter in any style of martial art or almost anything else via observation of the transmitted image. Think of it as ALMOST a visual hollow deck. Where you are able to observe the entire form of what ever is inside the zone of these systems. The larger the room the more systems you would have to link together ,but like i said the potential is limitless.

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  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024

    I was able to play with this device when I visited some old family friends during Thanks-Giving.  I was impressed.  It was fun, but I still think their was some lag, especially with my kicks.  I was playing that game where you smacked the red type dodge-ball to hit targets and would bounce back at you etc... you had to have very fast reflexes.  

    We let the little kids play mostly so they could burn off some energy, and it was even fun watching them play.  I liked the cameras that took pictures of you and the silly faces, body poses you would get caught in, that was pretty funny.

    With the potential, there is no doubt in my mind that someone will come up with a fighting style game.  Even with the ball game, I was messing around doing flying roundhouse kicks in the air just to mess around and show off in front of everyone.  People could get hurt if they played long enough, and just happened to land wrong on the floor, or slip, or run into furniture if you get unbalanced etc... 

    I personally wouldn't go out and buy a 360 just for Kinect, I'm done with 360's as I fired two of them and think they are junk, but if I'm at a friend or families house, I wouldn't mind playing for a few minutes to get some kicks in. 

    A MMA game where you could fight other people would probably be a very lucrative venture though.  My buddy already has the personal work out program he uses (I could understand if the weather was bad outside), but as another poster stated already, I enjoy swimming IRL and running, working out, sparring with buddies for fun in the flesh.  I don't need a video game for that, as I like to come home after a hard days work, or after working out, and sit down to enjoy rpg type mmos for relaxation.

    He likes it way better than the Wii, and he hasn't touched his Wii since. =) 

  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158

    You won't be able to learn martial arts using kinect.

    Project the trainer to your home? We already have devices to do that, you don't need 4 kinects..

  • exestenz69exestenz69 Member Posts: 121

    I really do not know what the lack of imagination is about evidently. A device of this type it doesn't have to be a kinect for an xbox I'm talking about the actual tech behind it. I can think of several things right off the top of my head that have absolutely nothing to do with gaming or PT since you all seem to be so obsessed over that that a device like this could be used for.

     

    1- virtual meetings full visual moving personnel with audio. Project meetings into any room in the world. Yes this can already be done via video chat but tell me that this tech doesn't knock skype out the water.

    2 - family visits for deployed solders. Being deployed several times i can tell you that being able to seem my kids move around a room and hear them speak even if i COULDNT touch them beats the shit out of Video chat any day of the week.

    3 Teaching . you project a teacher and his blackboards/whiteboard into the front of several classrooms at once. The students can see the movements of the teacher as he moves back and forth and touches different subjects displayed on his board. Tell me this doesn't beat a box with some voice coming out it at the front of the room. Or even into your living room.

    Those are just a few things i popped off the top of my head WoW crazy right why is this concept so hard to grasp?

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  • vilkonvilkon Member Posts: 14

    I've started on kinetic sports and also have fitness evolved and it's pretty impressive. My body is actually aching from the movement and I can see games evolving from this point to really work the body out in a real way.

    It recognizes your body in minute movements and placements so i'd say this is the future!

  • Shooter-90Shooter-90 Member Posts: 100

    Chatroulette by Kinect?

    -shudders-

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