No no and no. This is more like KOTOR back 4000 years before any of the events we seen in the films. This is the time of revan and malik and what started the sith/jedi wars while the republic was still young.
Don't you see the similarities ? I 'll give some hints
Old SW movies, the whole universe was of minimal technological advancement(visually speaking)
The last SW movies were too super-heavy in the visual effect sector, making you wonder if they trully were prequels!
SWG graphics were not that great but at least the gameplay was sandboxy and the whole settings were identical to the movies
SWTOR has quite good graphics but it's gameplay is as "theme park" as it will ever get! The visual settings so far show us the world of episodes 1,2,3 (heavy in technology and flashy enviroment)
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Don't you see the similarities ? I 'll give some hints
Old SW movies, the whole universe was of minimal technological advancement(visually speaking)
The last SW movies were too super-heavy in the visual effect sector, making you wonder if they trully were prequels!
SWG graphics were not that great but at least the gameplay was sandboxy and the whole settings were identical to the movies
SWTOR has quite good graphics but it's gameplay is as "theme park" as it will ever get! The visual settings so far show us the world of episodes 1,2,3 (heavy in technology and flashy enviroment)
as i said... matter of taste...
"old" SW movies are old, SWG is old
"new" SW movies are new, TOR "is" new
only two real similarities...
4,5,6 = heavy story = TOR
1,2,3=running around pretending many things = SWG
anyway "DONT FEED THE TROLL" = im out from the topic
Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don't Matter and Those Who Matter Don't Mind. Dr.Seuss
People see the films as films and the games as games. The main film differences are very similar to the main game differences. This made me wonder and i have concluded in one thing: Don't know how SWTOR will go as(i wish the best)
but in the immersion department it has failed already (just like episodes 1,2,3 )
People see the films as films and the games as games. The main film differences are very similar to the main game differences. This made me wonder and i have conclude in one thing: Don't know how SWTOR will go as(i wish the best)
but in the immersion department it has failed already (just like episodes 1,2,3 )
One has to play it first to understand the immersion factor. This is something you can't judge from videos or articles.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Hhh? you think Star Wars in its original form was for adults? really? it was always supposed to be for younger audience. Conan the barbarian on other hand..definitely for grown ups.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
People see the films as films and the games as games. The main film differences are very similar to the main game differences. This made me wonder and i have concluded in one thing: Don't know how SWTOR will go as(i wish the best)
but in the immersion department it has failed already (just like episodes 1,2,3 )
No it didn't failed, it's just your opinion nothing more than that.
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Sigh, So uninformed. Lucas made Starwars for kids from the start, why do you think they added Ewoks in ROTJ?
And if Bioware is so bad, why did ME 2 when numerous game of the year awards?
What was for kids in 80s is definetly the same as what was for kids in 2000
Perhaps I should refrase :
Old triology was for smart kids
New tiology is for retarded kids
As for ME2 getting numerous game of the year awards.
You kind of lost every bit of respect as RPG fan there.
Only award ME2 should win is:
"Most dumbed down RPG for console ADHD generation"
And perhaps it should compete in second cathegory:
"Game that tries hard to be a shooter but only console players could ever call that retarded stuff a shooter"
Ah, dont forget extra category:
"Somebody should inform these guys its a game not a movie"
p.s
Am I the only one that noticed how number of awards game gets is in direct corelation with its marketing budget ?
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Sigh, So uninformed. Lucas made Starwars for kids from the start, why do you think they added Ewoks in ROTJ?
And if Bioware is so bad, why did ME 2 when numerous game of the year awards?
What was for kids in 80s is definetly the same as what was for kids in 2000
Perhaps I should refrase :
Old triology was for smart kids
New tiology is for retarded kids
As for ME2 getting numerous game of the year awards.
You kind of lost every bit of respect as RPG fan there.
Only award ME2 should win is:
"Most dumbed down RPG for console ADHD generation"
And perhaps it should compete in second cathegory:
"Game that tries hard to be a shooter but only console players could ever call that retarded stuff a shooter"
Ah, dont forget extra category:
"Somebody should inform these guys its a game not a movie"
p.s
Am I the only one that noticed how number of awards game gets is in direct corelation with its marketing budget ?
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
I have to say this. As a black man(and, I might add, a working actor) Jar-Jar Binks is the very epitome of the "token black" we've seen in movies for decades(although things are, obviously, a lot better than they were). He is, by far, the worst character ever created in the SW universe, and I cringe every time I see him. I mean, he even walks in that sort of "Amos and Andy" "stepinfetchit" style. Having a pivotal role..LOL.
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Sigh, So uninformed. Lucas made Starwars for kids from the start, why do you think they added Ewoks in ROTJ?
And if Bioware is so bad, why did ME 2 when numerous game of the year awards?
What was for kids in 80s is definetly the same as what was for kids in 2000
Perhaps I should refrase :
Old triology was for smart kids
New tiology is for retarded kids
As for ME2 getting numerous game of the year awards.
You kind of lost every bit of respect as RPG fan there.
Only award ME2 should win is:
"Most dumbed down RPG for console ADHD generation"
And perhaps it should compete in second cathegory:
"Game that tries hard to be a shooter but only console players could ever call that retarded stuff a shooter"
Ah, dont forget extra category:
"Somebody should inform these guys its a game not a movie"
p.s
Am I the only one that noticed how number of awards game gets is in direct corelation with its marketing budget ?
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
I have to say this. As a black man(and, I might add, a working actor) Jar-Jar Binks is the very epitome of the "token black" we've seen in movies for decades(although things are, obviously, a lot better than they were). He is, by far, the worst character ever created in the SW universe, and I cringe every time I see him. I mean, he even walks in that sort of "Amos and Andy" "stepinfetchit" style. Having a pivotal role..LOL.
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
I have to say this. As a black man(and, I might add, a working actor) Jar-Jar Binks is the very epitome of the "token black" we've seen in movies for decades(although things are, obviously, a lot better than they were). He is, by far, the worst character ever created in the SW universe, and I cringe every time I see him. I mean, he even walks in that sort of "Amos and Andy" "stepinfetchit" style. Having a pivotal role..LOL.
Interesting, a TROLL thread created by a TROLL OP that gets turned into an almost decent discussion by the people who show the OP is a TROLL and how off base he is. Nice. Good job to everyone but the OP.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Interesting, a TROLL thread created by a TROLL OP that gets turned into an almost decent discussion by the people who show the OP is a TROLL and how off base he is. Nice. Good job to everyone but the OP.
Perhaps you didn't get the comparison the OP tried to make with the two SW trilogies.And my post was not a troll since i DO wish SWTOR succeeds as a game.The market needs a new King. It's the matter of IMMERSION i am concerned about and this has to do with all of us with a certain age. The ones that grew up with the first trilogy and loved everything about it untill Jar Jar came along...
A game can be quite succesful without implementing a great immersion factor as long as empty headed people like you pay the subscription. Take WOW for example....
And please be my guest if anyone wants to prove me wrong about the level of Star Wars Like Feeling that SWTOR will have.
So far all game elements and videos shown us a colourful cookie jar with no depth at all. Might be a fun game..but it doesnt look like a SW game so much....
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Sigh, So uninformed. Lucas made Starwars for kids from the start, why do you think they added Ewoks in ROTJ?
And if Bioware is so bad, why did ME 2 when numerous game of the year awards?
What was for kids in 80s is definetly the same as what was for kids in 2000
Perhaps I should refrase :
Old triology was for smart kids
New tiology is for retarded kids
As for ME2 getting numerous game of the year awards.
You kind of lost every bit of respect as RPG fan there.
Only award ME2 should win is:
"Most dumbed down RPG for console ADHD generation"
And perhaps it should compete in second cathegory:
"Game that tries hard to be a shooter but only console players could ever call that retarded stuff a shooter"
Ah, dont forget extra category:
"Somebody should inform these guys its a game not a movie"
p.s
Am I the only one that noticed how number of awards game gets is in direct corelation with its marketing budget ?
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
I have to say this. As a black man(and, I might add, a working actor) Jar-Jar Binks is the very epitome of the "token black" we've seen in movies for decades(although things are, obviously, a lot better than they were). He is, by far, the worst character ever created in the SW universe, and I cringe every time I see him. I mean, he even walks in that sort of "Amos and Andy" "stepinfetchit" style. Having a pivotal role..LOL.
This can't be serious.
It is.... i would add though that ME1 was better, imo at least, than ME2, though both were very playable, but only once.. those kinds of games don't have any real replayability, so i'm kind of in two minds as to whether they even represent good value for money or not.. though .. they both are definitely better VFM than Dragon age:Origins.. definitely going to avoid DA:O2... as for Star Wars, the 'original' 3 films, 4,5&6 will always be regarded, by me at least, as being iconic.. the 'prequels' were nothing less than a bodged together attempt to scam more money out of the Star Wars name, never mind Jar Jar, though i do agree on the reasons for it being there, politically incorrect as it is... it spoiled films that were already a long way from being definitive, add further insults in the 'midichlorians' and the new improved (younger) Yoda, and his impressively bad fighting scenes.... the sheer volume of 'awfulness' in the prequels just beggars belief.. as for SW:TOR, its part of the KOTOR, spinoff line, the only link it has to Star Wars, is that it has Jedi in it... and its a tenous link at that.
Interesting, a TROLL thread created by a TROLL OP that gets turned into an almost decent discussion by the people who show the OP is a TROLL and how off base he is. Nice. Good job to everyone but the OP.
Perhaps you didn't get the comparison the OP tried to make with the two SW trilogies.And my post was not a troll since i DO wish SWTOR succeeds as a game.The market needs a new King. It's the matter of IMMERSION i am concerned about and this has to do with all of us with a certain age. The ones that grew up with the first trilogy and loved everything about it untill Jar Jar came along...
A game can be quite succesful without implementing a great immersion factor as long as empty headed people like you pay the subscription. Take WOW for example....
And please be my guest if anyone wants to prove me wrong about the level of Star Wars Like Feeling that SWTOR will have.
So far all game elements and videos shown us a colourful cookie jar with no depth at all. Might be a fun game..but it doesnt look like a SW game so much....
You can easily be proven wrong because it feels like Star Wars to me. Feeling is all up to interpretation. No depth? You can tell this by videos? Everything I have read and seen shows a pretty good skill based system if you actually read up on it. The skills of one class to the other seems to have counters and each class seems to have a stun/snare block which makes me think this game was built with PVP in mind.
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No no and no. This is more like KOTOR back 4000 years before any of the events we seen in the films. This is the time of revan and malik and what started the sith/jedi wars while the republic was still young.
Two totally different games should not even be discussed in the same breath.
I for one do not want to see any PRE NGE Vets in SWTOR , their bitter and twisted nature as far as I am concerned is just not welcome in SWTOR.
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
nah...
rather:
SWG(PRE GE) = SACRED
SWTOR = ME2+DAO
its all a matter of taste, as for me episodes 4,5,6 are WAY better than 1,2,3 and it should look :
SWG = episodes 1,2,3
SWTOR = hopes to be 4,5,6
anyway, another troll topic
Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don't Matter and Those Who Matter Don't Mind. Dr.Seuss
Don't you see the similarities ? I 'll give some hints
Old SW movies, the whole universe was of minimal technological advancement(visually speaking)
The last SW movies were too super-heavy in the visual effect sector, making you wonder if they trully were prequels!
SWG graphics were not that great but at least the gameplay was sandboxy and the whole settings were identical to the movies
SWTOR has quite good graphics but it's gameplay is as "theme park" as it will ever get! The visual settings so far show us the world of episodes 1,2,3 (heavy in technology and flashy enviroment)
Ok OP just lost me with his second post.....
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
SWG - crap
Original trilogy - awesome
New trilogy - crap
SWTOR - ???
Yeah I can see the pattern.
O_o o_O
as i said... matter of taste...
"old" SW movies are old, SWG is old
"new" SW movies are new, TOR "is" new
only two real similarities...
4,5,6 = heavy story = TOR
1,2,3=running around pretending many things = SWG
anyway "DONT FEED THE TROLL" = im out from the topic
Be Who You Are and Say What You Feel Because Those Who Mind Don't Matter and Those Who Matter Don't Mind. Dr.Seuss
I dont know if I would put it in those terms.
I see the PRECioUs as "Out-of-touch-with-reality fanbois that are enjoying their first sexual experience via cyber-sexing a mangina Ent".
I see TOR as a video game.
If that doesnt work for ya.....
The PRERCioUs = A work sim
ToR = entertainment
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
You are close my friend....
People see the films as films and the games as games. The main film differences are very similar to the main game differences. This made me wonder and i have concluded in one thing: Don't know how SWTOR will go as(i wish the best)
but in the immersion department it has failed already (just like episodes 1,2,3 )
One has to play it first to understand the immersion factor. This is something you can't judge from videos or articles.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Well no
Its still Bioware game.
And while Lucas was doing the abomination called Starwars for kids (or ep 1,2,3)
Bioware was doing KOTOR , which was best thing to happen to SW since the original films.
Now Bioware is not even near the quality it was in KOTOR days. But its still far away from Lucas arts crap storm.
Sigh, So uninformed. Lucas made Starwars for kids from the start, why do you think they added Ewoks in ROTJ?
And if Bioware is so bad, why did ME 2 when numerous game of the year awards?
In Bioware we trust!
Hhh? you think Star Wars in its original form was for adults? really? it was always supposed to be for younger audience. Conan the barbarian on other hand..definitely for grown ups.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
No it didn't failed, it's just your opinion nothing more than that.
What was for kids in 80s is definetly the same as what was for kids in 2000
Perhaps I should refrase :
Old triology was for smart kids
New tiology is for retarded kids
As for ME2 getting numerous game of the year awards.
You kind of lost every bit of respect as RPG fan there.
Only award ME2 should win is:
"Most dumbed down RPG for console ADHD generation"
And perhaps it should compete in second cathegory:
"Game that tries hard to be a shooter but only console players could ever call that retarded stuff a shooter"
Ah, dont forget extra category:
"Somebody should inform these guys its a game not a movie"
p.s
Am I the only one that noticed how number of awards game gets is in direct corelation with its marketing budget ?
Sigh, Still uninformed. You know Jar Jar, while being there for comedic purposes, actuallty had a pivitol role in the prequel trilogy. It was his endorsement to give Palpatine emergency powers in the senate which later led to him being emperor.
In Bioware we trust!
I have to say this. As a black man(and, I might add, a working actor) Jar-Jar Binks is the very epitome of the "token black" we've seen in movies for decades(although things are, obviously, a lot better than they were). He is, by far, the worst character ever created in the SW universe, and I cringe every time I see him. I mean, he even walks in that sort of "Amos and Andy" "stepinfetchit" style. Having a pivotal role..LOL.
This can't be serious.
In Bioware we trust!
Ad me to the LOLZ
SWG (pre NGE) = For those who think that farming peanuts in far-far-far away world is the pinnacle of excitement
SWTOR = For those who already work farming peanuts IRL, and don't have time for it online
Hehe , very well put...
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Interesting, a TROLL thread created by a TROLL OP that gets turned into an almost decent discussion by the people who show the OP is a TROLL and how off base he is. Nice. Good job to everyone but the OP.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Perhaps you didn't get the comparison the OP tried to make with the two SW trilogies.And my post was not a troll since i DO wish SWTOR succeeds as a game.The market needs a new King. It's the matter of IMMERSION i am concerned about and this has to do with all of us with a certain age. The ones that grew up with the first trilogy and loved everything about it untill Jar Jar came along...
A game can be quite succesful without implementing a great immersion factor as long as empty headed people like you pay the subscription. Take WOW for example....
And please be my guest if anyone wants to prove me wrong about the level of Star Wars Like Feeling that SWTOR will have.
So far all game elements and videos shown us a colourful cookie jar with no depth at all. Might be a fun game..but it doesnt look like a SW game so much....
It is.... i would add though that ME1 was better, imo at least, than ME2, though both were very playable, but only once.. those kinds of games don't have any real replayability, so i'm kind of in two minds as to whether they even represent good value for money or not.. though .. they both are definitely better VFM than Dragon age:Origins.. definitely going to avoid DA:O2... as for Star Wars, the 'original' 3 films, 4,5&6 will always be regarded, by me at least, as being iconic.. the 'prequels' were nothing less than a bodged together attempt to scam more money out of the Star Wars name, never mind Jar Jar, though i do agree on the reasons for it being there, politically incorrect as it is... it spoiled films that were already a long way from being definitive, add further insults in the 'midichlorians' and the new improved (younger) Yoda, and his impressively bad fighting scenes.... the sheer volume of 'awfulness' in the prequels just beggars belief.. as for SW:TOR, its part of the KOTOR, spinoff line, the only link it has to Star Wars, is that it has Jedi in it... and its a tenous link at that.
You can easily be proven wrong because it feels like Star Wars to me. Feeling is all up to interpretation. No depth? You can tell this by videos? Everything I have read and seen shows a pretty good skill based system if you actually read up on it. The skills of one class to the other seems to have counters and each class seems to have a stun/snare block which makes me think this game was built with PVP in mind.
In Bioware we trust!