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What Subs is Rift Going After?
I've been playing the Rift betas. I came to a conclusion. Rift isn't going after WoW subs. WoW and Rift are pretty different.
Rift is going after EQ2, LotRO, WAR and AoC subs. I've played these games and Rift is a lot more like these games than WoW.
The realistic characters, the combat system, the classes. The more serious story line.
I'm sure that Rift will take any sub they can get, but their target was never WoW, it's WoW's competitors. And I think Rift is better job than WoW's competitors and will do well.
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Aren't they going after all the subscribers they can possibly get? No?
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funny thing with targets is...
you can aim all you want but if you're not a good shot then wtf cares about who/what you were aiming at?
How do most people think development meetings go?
Joe: Hey we should make sure there is no Exp loss on death, that'll cater to the post EQ era folks, that demographic is a good one to aim for!
John: Oh good idea! Also lets make sure that we don't do durability, everyone would think we're just a WoW clone, lets add in something similar but unique! That'll go after the WoW hater crowd, fantastic!
I mean honestly when they are discussing game mechanics and the fundamentals I really don't think they are discussing which "demographic" likes which play style, mechanic, or design choice. They try to make what they feel at the time will get them the most fans / subscribers, because thats what a business does, it tries to release a product that will make them money.
LMAO couldn't have said it better myself.
Joke topic?
now that the jester is in, yes!
If RIFT wasn't going after WOW then their tag line woudn't have been "We're not in Azeroth anymore" in their commercials. It would have been more along the lines of..."We're not in Hyboria/Middle Earth etc." anymore.
Agreed, i saw that commercial during primetime Ironman movie on FX. that is what got me to check it out. After checking it out I cancelled my other mmo subs including WOW. Trion is of course going after the WOW crowd first and formost.
I would assume that the target of subscriptions that Trion is aiming for is MMORPG players.
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I'm not sure I follow your logic...
LotRO, WAR, AoC, are all games almost identical to WoW in every way except graphics. Sooo... yeah. All these games went after the WoW subs, Rift is too.
Rift cant touch AOC, because it doesent have fatalitys, combo system, siege warfare, mounted combat and better graphics like AOC does. It may be going after all the other ones though who knows
Graphic are a personnel thing but I disagree with AOC having better graphics. I can run both games maxed graphic and I think RIFT looks a lot better then AOC.
AoC hardly has "siege warfare" or mounted combat. And their "combo system" is so very simple compared to what it was in early beta that it may as well just be styles like every other MMO. No, AoC is so close to WoW they're nearly twins with different colored hair. Same with most AAA MMOS these days. But I guess you guys just haven't been in the genre long enough. You see the tiny differences as much larger than they actually are because you weren't around in a time when there was true diversity between MMOs.
Been playing mmo's since 2001 so I guess I still havent been in the genre long enough. Maybe to qualify for that award I should have started back in the MUD days. Oh yea and AOC has voice acting for chars at the beginning of the story and the games loads more polished since released ive heard. And did I mention fatalitys again? seeing my char stick an axe through someones gut and rip it out with blood hitting the screen, or slicing there head clean off? AOC feels mature to me not alot of games can say that.
I imagine you had to drop your standards to survive in today's market then. I'd hardly call the games coming out nowadays MMOs, much less say there's much difference between them all.
Ah, but WoW is so much better known and it is more fun when more people get it. The joke, that is. It does not necessarily mean that they are after WoW. They are after everybody! Run, run while you still can!
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Simple question to answear.
What Subs is Rift Going After?
They are going for as many as they can
The question is like, would you like a discusting pizza or a good pizza
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AoC can do a lot more graphically because(unless tihngs have changed since I played) it's way more instanced than Rift...the open world in Rift does not split the population into different instances of zones to limit the amount of players that can appear on screne at once.
Also I find the world graphics in Rift much better than the directx 9 version of AoC whic hit is directly comparable to,I can't comment on AoC's directx 10 graphics as I quit befor ethey finally delivere don that promise(which wa slisted as a sellign point on the original box).But I'd agree that the Character modles are bette rin AoC.
Sure, they'll take money from anyone who wants to open up their wallets. What company wouldn't? But they directly called out WoW in their trailer. I'd say that qualifies them as having their sights set on Blizzy's playerbase.
The trailer spoke for itself, there isn't really any room here for interpretation. Trion knowingly pointed their finger right at WoW.
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Lol..''Your not in Azeroth anymore'' ermm are you kidding,please tell me this is a joke,right?
Rift is like these games..lol, you mean they are all MMO,right?
Realistic Characters..seriously are you saying that RIFTS characters are realistic like AOC because if you are then you really are joking.
Trion are after WOW subs and if you really need proof my first line in this post should be enough.
You like the game, that's great but don't tey and convince us that TRION are not after WOW because that just makes you look silly.
DX10 AOC looks very nice I run the game on max settings.
WoW stragglers, definately.
The problem is that WoW's playerbase is comprised of satisfied people who don't actually care about playing the newest cutting edge MMO. The straggler group size is significant enough to support a game, but they're a hard group to sell to.
Plenty of room left on this side of the fence though.
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Of course RIFT would target WoW in their advertisement, as it is gives them publicity. Targeting any other MMO on the market would be laughable. I also agree that RIFT is more similar to WoW's competitors, particularly Warhammer. Some of these games have pretty innovative features but are brought down by poor implementation, it would make sense for the developers of RIFT to try to take advantage and truy make a next gen MMORPG, but polished and properly implemented. As far as it being a WoW copycat and how every game is just like WoW according to a certain poster in this thread, I think throughout this website it has been stated enough that WoW was hardly original and that this is what MMORPGs have been looking like since EverQuest. Regardless, Rift's active landscape of mob invasions, NPC fighters, and war-stricken nature make it play and feel different from WoW and more seamless than Warhammer.
In the end though, they are probably just trying to make a decent game using the innovations of otherwise failed games, and use this to compete with WoW.
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WoW has a little over 60% market share in NA if you are eating at the mmo table likely you are eating from WoW's plate in some way.