Originally posted by jkfc I just think they should restrict it. There is no use for this. I do not like to see these idiots ruining my screens. Let them dress up in their own home and look good ingame. I know many already look like idiots. We don't have to see them also dressed like idiots when we are playing.
One of the challenges of Life is to tolerate the insipidity of everyone else...
"Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"
Whats the difference. All the armor in the game looks terrible anyway.
Just because "Jedi Heavy Armor" has a brown cape on the back? Who gives a darn.
Its all the same anyway. Junk.
Yep, you're right. All the armor looks terrible and junk
It might be more accurate to say it's not to his taste. Personally, I'm not fond of the character models. Tiny waists, massive shoulders, etc. I wouldn't call them "junk" but I don't like them.
ud rather all be slouchy and obese?... they are shaped like 95% percent of my family...it happens when you workout and like do physical activity....
Why does any game nowadays not have an appearance tab?
One of life's great mysteries indeed! Though I can see how this could be a problem for games that heavily focus on PvP and rely on silhouettes for players to be able to identify specific classes in battle. But yes, in most cases it would appear to make sense to have an appearance tab and it is truly a wonder to me why most games don't have them.
Why does any game nowadays not have an appearance tab?
One of life's great mysteries indeed! Though I can see how this could be a problem for games that heavily focus on PvP and rely on silhouettes for players to be able to identify specific classes in battle. But yes, in most cases it would appear to make sense to have an appearance tab and it is truly a wonder to me why most games don't have them.
Ahh, this is one of the major reasons I would say an appearance tab makes MORE sense! The days of focus firing the mage because he is in robes should be gone. I should be able to dress my platemail in robes and carry a staff (with my sword tucked in the robes), waiting for those rogue to come and try to backstab me (and find out the hard way). Profiling by appearance is something I have never liked as it is just too convenient. The characters in Warhammer Online were the epitome of this as all had distinct looks and could easily be picked out from extreme distances.
i like the idea of being able to dress as i see fit despite others thinking i look stupid or not .. they can play their toons their way i will play mine my way
yes when i go to do a quest or an instance i want to be wearing the gear with best stats that i can but when i am running around collecting craft materials and dont need the gear what differance does it make if i look like a stormtrooper or if im wearing pink bunny slippers and my boxers
apperance tabs should be mandatory in games anymore IMO
One added keynote to the article concerning gear. They do have a color matching system in place, so if you had say a red hat, with blue pants, green shirt and orange shoulders with purple gloves you could hit the button and turn everything red...if you so wish. or a more apporiate color that looks a lot better.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Does a lightsaber short out if the owner isn't wearing his Jedi Pants? I find myself unable to get worked up over characters dressing outside their class. "I'm sorry, but your shoulder just pads aren't spikey enough to be a bounty hunter. And you there, where's your big pointy hat? You can't cast spells without a big pointy hat. It... you.... you just... you can't..."
"Hey, how those new boots fit?"
A bit clunky and heavy, but I like 'em, and they'll be good for snake country. But they just won't let my feet in.
"Huh. What size? You're a 12, right?"
Yeah, I'm a twelve, and these boots are a twelve, but I just can't get them on. You try.
"Huh. Went right on. Ah, I see your problem. These are Plumber Boots. You can't wear them unless you're a certifed, licensed plumber."
What the hell do you mean I can't wear them if I'm an electrician? How the hell do the boots know what I do for a living?
"It's a new feature. The guy that makes the copies, he got all mad when he saw one of the engineers wearing the same shirt. Went all kinds of postal, filed a grievence. Says it's important we be able to judge everyone's skill set and exerience level by what brand of pants they have."
Oh jeez. Fine. I'll get some sneakers.
"No Go there, good buddy. Unless your working in the IT department now."
I'm a big fan of letting people do their own thing, so I'm don't get stressed if someone's costume doesn't act as a neon sign that says "Healer: Please Kill Me First." Makes for a more intersting game. It's not like there's a Bounty Hunter Fashion Code, or a Smuggler's Only line of vests.
Does a lightsaber short out if the owner isn't wearing his Jedi Pants? I find myself unable to get worked up over characters dressing outside their class. "I'm sorry, but your shoulder just pads aren't spikey enough to be a bounty hunter. And you there, where's your big pointy hat? You can't cast spells without a big pointy hat. It... you.... you just... you can't..."
"Hey, how those new boots fit?"
A bit clunky and heavy, but I like 'em, and they'll be good for snake country. But they just won't let my feet in.
"Huh. What size? You're a 12, right?"
Yeah, I'm a twelve, and these boots are a twelve, but I just can't get them on. You try.
"Huh. Went right on. Ah, I see your problem. These are Plumber Boots. You can't wear them unless you're a certifed, licensed plumber."
What the hell do you mean I can't wear them if I'm an electrician? How the hell do the boots know what I do for a living?
"It's a new feature. The guy that makes the copies, he got all mad when he saw one of the engineers wearing the same shirt. Went all kinds of postal, filed a grievence. Says it's important we be able to judge everyone's skill set and exerience level by what brand of pants they have."
Oh jeez. Fine. I'll get some sneakers.
"No Go there, good buddy. Unless your working in the IT department now."
I'm a big fan of letting people do their own thing, so I'm don't get stressed if someone's costume doesn't act as a neon sign that says "Healer: Please Kill Me First." Makes for a more intersting game. It's not like there's a Bounty Hunter Fashion Code, or a Smuggler's Only line of vests.
I see armor as a leap from reality type thing, you need to assume armor has some kind of enchantment to give you better stats, or in future, technology.
Because my shirt only gives me plus to appearance and maybe my coat a plus to cold resistance.
It appears that the only time the appearance tab excels is when your fighting. Otherwise you could simply put on the armor you want to wear in town.
I'm always for more options of course, but i don't find the appearance tab a required item at launch either.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Mmmmm... Seems to me you give yourself gear with stat bonuses that don't really help you with what your good at, that's a self nerf anyway? Any atypical gain would be offset by the fact they're not boosting what they need to be boosted. And if somebody finds themselves a nice combo that compensates for a weakness, that's just playing smart barring some sort of unexpected exploit factor.
"Wow, that mage can arm wrestle like nobody's business"
Yeah. He's got all strength gear. How's he at spell casting?
Well, he did turn some ice to water the other day, and can make those pretty lights you learn at first level...
Why does any game nowadays not have an appearance tab?
One of life's great mysteries indeed! Though I can see how this could be a problem for games that heavily focus on PvP and rely on silhouettes for players to be able to identify specific classes in battle. But yes, in most cases it would appear to make sense to have an appearance tab and it is truly a wonder to me why most games don't have them.
Ahh, this is one of the major reasons I would say an appearance tab makes MORE sense! The days of focus firing the mage because he is in robes should be gone. I should be able to dress my platemail in robes and carry a staff (with my sword tucked in the robes), waiting for those rogue to come and try to backstab me (and find out the hard way). Profiling by appearance is something I have never liked as it is just too convenient. The characters in Warhammer Online were the epitome of this as all had distinct looks and could easily be picked out from extreme distances.
That's because of lore.
Giving players freedom to do what they want is one thing. De-railing from established lore to appease people is not always the best move. Since I want to fly a Star Destroyer instead of a small frigate, should they let me? What if the a poll was taken, and the majority of future players said they also would rather fly a Star Destroyer? What about then? Shouldn't Bioware allow us then? See where this is leading?
This move on their part might nudge some more players to really want to try the game now. But it's also going to nudge some players away.
Why does any game nowadays not have an appearance tab?
One of life's great mysteries indeed! Though I can see how this could be a problem for games that heavily focus on PvP and rely on silhouettes for players to be able to identify specific classes in battle. But yes, in most cases it would appear to make sense to have an appearance tab and it is truly a wonder to me why most games don't have them.
Ahh, this is one of the major reasons I would say an appearance tab makes MORE sense! The days of focus firing the mage because he is in robes should be gone. I should be able to dress my platemail in robes and carry a staff (with my sword tucked in the robes), waiting for those rogue to come and try to backstab me (and find out the hard way). Profiling by appearance is something I have never liked as it is just too convenient. The characters in Warhammer Online were the epitome of this as all had distinct looks and could easily be picked out from extreme distances.
That's because of lore.
Giving players freedom to do what they want is one thing. De-railing from established lore to appease people is not always the best move. Since I want to fly a Star Destroyer instead of a small frigate, should they let me? What if the a poll was taken, and the majority of future players said they also would rather fly a Star Destroyer? What about then? Shouldn't Bioware allow us then? See where this is leading?
This move on their part might nudge some more players to really want to try the game now. But it's also going to nudge some players away.
Except "Lore" is assuming that all bounty hunters were this or that type of armor, and all Jedi shop at the same outlet. Let the nimble acrobat sneakety guy try wearing that hardsuit powered armor and then see how his ninja jumping skills work.
It's sacrificing reality for Trope to say "well, jedi just don't wear bounty hunter pants."
Have no fear people i am gonna be in full bounty hunter gear on my sith warrior and chuck my lightsaber at people for ranged damage till they change it!
The colour-matching system is brilliant. I think that will be enough to alleviate most people's concerns about clown-suit syndrome. Of course some people will do it on purpose, but at least we all won't be forced to look like fools just because of item stats.
My concern is more of having to acquire armor with the most effective stats and end up forfeiting your own style and appearence to go with your character.
ya sure you can walk around with your own favored armor, just dont expect anyone to group with you due to ye olde gear queer mentality.
"look at that noob wearing lvl 10 boots with lvl 25 helmet, he MUST be a rper, dont invite him he's useless."
isn't it long over due that mmo's progress to the point that people are tired of looking like the same 100 other players before and after them?
obeloviper95 He would probably be happy if it looked more WoW-like, but I guess then he'd complain about that too. I guess this game will always attract some degree of negativity and its fair share of people who hope it'll fail... doom prophets. Maybe the ones who never have a good word to say about SWTOR should just quit posting, find something else to do/read or go back to WoW. Boredom probably plays a major role.
I don't care about the specific mechanics, just as long as there is plenty of variety and freedom and people not being restricted to certain models too much. All in favor of plenty of class overlaping RP / vanity wear in which stats don't matter so much as well.
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One of the challenges of Life is to tolerate the insipidity of everyone else...
"Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"
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and to point out, this is the old republic, Bioware wrote the book on it, it's lore if they say it is, lol
ud rather all be slouchy and obese?... they are shaped like 95% percent of my family...it happens when you workout and like do physical activity....
One of life's great mysteries indeed!
Ahh, this is one of the major reasons I would say an appearance tab makes MORE sense! The days of focus firing the mage because he is in robes should be gone. I should be able to dress my platemail in robes and carry a staff (with my sword tucked in the robes), waiting for those rogue to come and try to backstab me (and find out the hard way). Profiling by appearance is something I have never liked as it is just too convenient. The characters in Warhammer Online were the epitome of this as all had distinct looks and could easily be picked out from extreme distances.
It's all hunter gear.
huh?
Maybe you will have no choice and wearing what you can pick up is better than nothing. Tends towards some interesting quest scenarios.
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Seriously i dont understand why people complain about this...
Like when u go out and buy a coat how often do u get home and are like "damn, its a Heavy Coat and im only able to wear Medium Coats."
Being able to wear anything is a little slice of reality... how it encumbers u or makes u unable to do, is somthing totally diffrent...
i like the idea of being able to dress as i see fit despite others thinking i look stupid or not .. they can play their toons their way i will play mine my way
yes when i go to do a quest or an instance i want to be wearing the gear with best stats that i can but when i am running around collecting craft materials and dont need the gear what differance does it make if i look like a stormtrooper or if im wearing pink bunny slippers and my boxers
apperance tabs should be mandatory in games anymore IMO
One added keynote to the article concerning gear. They do have a color matching system in place, so if you had say a red hat, with blue pants, green shirt and orange shoulders with purple gloves you could hit the button and turn everything red...if you so wish. or a more apporiate color that looks a lot better.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Add an appearance tab. Nothing about the appearance tab has hurt SWG gameplay and it made the whole game a lot more Starwars-y.
Will people look like idiots? Sure. But dozens more would have had to and had no choice wihtout it.
What is so dang hard about doing something like that? Really!
Above all else... never ever piss off the penguin.
Does a lightsaber short out if the owner isn't wearing his Jedi Pants? I find myself unable to get worked up over characters dressing outside their class. "I'm sorry, but your shoulder just pads aren't spikey enough to be a bounty hunter. And you there, where's your big pointy hat? You can't cast spells without a big pointy hat. It... you.... you just... you can't..."
"Hey, how those new boots fit?"
A bit clunky and heavy, but I like 'em, and they'll be good for snake country. But they just won't let my feet in.
"Huh. What size? You're a 12, right?"
Yeah, I'm a twelve, and these boots are a twelve, but I just can't get them on. You try.
"Huh. Went right on. Ah, I see your problem. These are Plumber Boots. You can't wear them unless you're a certifed, licensed plumber."
What the hell do you mean I can't wear them if I'm an electrician? How the hell do the boots know what I do for a living?
"It's a new feature. The guy that makes the copies, he got all mad when he saw one of the engineers wearing the same shirt. Went all kinds of postal, filed a grievence. Says it's important we be able to judge everyone's skill set and exerience level by what brand of pants they have."
Oh jeez. Fine. I'll get some sneakers.
"No Go there, good buddy. Unless your working in the IT department now."
I'm a big fan of letting people do their own thing, so I'm don't get stressed if someone's costume doesn't act as a neon sign that says "Healer: Please Kill Me First." Makes for a more intersting game. It's not like there's a Bounty Hunter Fashion Code, or a Smuggler's Only line of vests.
I see armor as a leap from reality type thing, you need to assume armor has some kind of enchantment to give you better stats, or in future, technology.
Because my shirt only gives me plus to appearance and maybe my coat a plus to cold resistance.
It appears that the only time the appearance tab excels is when your fighting. Otherwise you could simply put on the armor you want to wear in town.
I'm always for more options of course, but i don't find the appearance tab a required item at launch either.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Mmmmm... Seems to me you give yourself gear with stat bonuses that don't really help you with what your good at, that's a self nerf anyway? Any atypical gain would be offset by the fact they're not boosting what they need to be boosted. And if somebody finds themselves a nice combo that compensates for a weakness, that's just playing smart barring some sort of unexpected exploit factor.
"Wow, that mage can arm wrestle like nobody's business"
Yeah. He's got all strength gear. How's he at spell casting?
Well, he did turn some ice to water the other day, and can make those pretty lights you learn at first level...
That's because of lore.
Giving players freedom to do what they want is one thing. De-railing from established lore to appease people is not always the best move. Since I want to fly a Star Destroyer instead of a small frigate, should they let me? What if the a poll was taken, and the majority of future players said they also would rather fly a Star Destroyer? What about then? Shouldn't Bioware allow us then? See where this is leading?
This move on their part might nudge some more players to really want to try the game now. But it's also going to nudge some players away.
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What a great change for sure. I will wear what looks good when I am not going into pvp/pve that matters.
Granted, an appearence tab when in non pvp areas would be wonderful.
Except "Lore" is assuming that all bounty hunters were this or that type of armor, and all Jedi shop at the same outlet. Let the nimble acrobat sneakety guy try wearing that hardsuit powered armor and then see how his ninja jumping skills work.
It's sacrificing reality for Trope to say "well, jedi just don't wear bounty hunter pants."
Have no fear people i am gonna be in full bounty hunter gear on my sith warrior and chuck my lightsaber at people for ranged damage till they change it!
The colour-matching system is brilliant. I think that will be enough to alleviate most people's concerns about clown-suit syndrome. Of course some people will do it on purpose, but at least we all won't be forced to look like fools just because of item stats.
Thanks for agreeing with me.
Cause it does.
My concern is more of having to acquire armor with the most effective stats and end up forfeiting your own style and appearence to go with your character.
ya sure you can walk around with your own favored armor, just dont expect anyone to group with you due to ye olde gear queer mentality.
"look at that noob wearing lvl 10 boots with lvl 25 helmet, he MUST be a rper, dont invite him he's useless."
isn't it long over due that mmo's progress to the point that people are tired of looking like the same 100 other players before and after them?
im not sure but i think that was this thing called sarcasm...
i think they look awesome
what would u want them to look like?..
obeloviper95 He would probably be happy if it looked more WoW-like, but I guess then he'd complain about that too. I guess this game will always attract some degree of negativity and its fair share of people who hope it'll fail... doom prophets. Maybe the ones who never have a good word to say about SWTOR should just quit posting, find something else to do/read or go back to WoW. Boredom probably plays a major role.
I don't care about the specific mechanics, just as long as there is plenty of variety and freedom and people not being restricted to certain models too much. All in favor of plenty of class overlaping RP / vanity wear in which stats don't matter so much as well.
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