In limbo as I have been since the NGE. SWTOR was a complete and total bust for me. I bought the download, and now it looks like I will never even enter my product key and register it since I had a chance to play it in two betas and now early game access. I'm pretty much done at this point.
We have no sandbox or even a decent hybrid to call home, that's for sure.
I'm interested in Guild Wars 2 next year, even though it is a themepark, but even more than that I am watching The Secret World and ArchAge (sandbox, looks good on paper - don't they all?)
Other than this, I feel screwed. I feel like I keep waiting for one of these companies to get it right again and create meaningful gameplay and adventuring. I can't take the spoon-fed themeparks. Ever waiting to throw my money at someone.
I think it says something that at one time I was paying for three paid accounts in SWG at $45/month, yet the thought of even spending $15 on today's garbage games makes me ill. SWTOR for $60 + 15/month... don't make me laugh!
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I feel bad for the players that stuck with it after the NGE fiasco as they had to deal with not only SOE's constant idiocy but the idiocy of the "vets" who never learned to just move on. I refused to stick with it because once all my friends left, there was no reason to stick with it. I never liked the system to begin with and my guild was the only reason I played it as long as I did. Once they left, I left. I will certainly never support an SOE MMO ever again.
I'll be playing TOR once the box arrives in a few days. I played it in beta and really enjoyed it. Far as other MMOs go, I'm just not interested in paying a sub for a boring leveling experience, which is what most of them have. The whole "endgame is where it is at" mindset just doesn't do it for me. I
I started playing SWG around mid 2004, it was my sophmore year in college, and at that point I hadn't jumped on the MMORPG bandwagon. At that time the thought of paying a continuous fee to play a game still seemed crazy. I had been playing the single player offerings at that time, and I can remember feeling dissapointed with the size of the small worlds, and longing for a game that presented a larger world. So, I saw the SWG Collector's Edition in CompUSA one day, mulled it over for a couple more days, and decided to take a chance, and the rest is history as they say...
I played the hell out of SWG, and even through the Combat Upgrade, but when SOE crapped out the NGE, I was done. The game that I had grown to love in many ways died. After that soccer punch, I began looking for something to replace SWG (which by the way, can never be done, SWG is too unique), and stumbled onto Eve-Online and I've been there ever since. I've don't suspect I will be leaving any time soon either considering the garbage that passes for MMORPGs these days.
I've got my eye on a few MMOs, but I'm not holding my breath. GW2 is still very much a themepark, ArchAge is too Asian, the two that I think show the most promise are Pathfinder Online and maybe the Secret World. I suspect that I'll be playing SWG once again when one of the Emulator projects is released, I'm eager to relive the past and make more memories in SWG, there is still much more to experience. That's the nice thing about sandboxes...
TOR on the other hand is no replacement, and just a sad waste of time and money. It's faults and shortcommings have been expounded upon ad infinitum, so I see no need to state them again. Needless to say, I won't be playing it... EVER!
I played SWG from launch till NGE, and returned now and then after that.
I was; Enki, Evile, and Shohadaku on Gorath server. I also played the pilot Enki on Starsider. Iron Circle was my guild in SWG, and we moved to Juyo server on TOR.
Knights of Iron is the Republic side, Iron Circle is Empire.
My Sith is named Evile
My Republic (inactive atm due to using my sith) is Enki.
Still doing my same-old, same-old: SOE Station Pass (whatever they call it now), so I can dip in and out of EQ, EQ2, Vanguard. Maybe I could try Planetside for a change. Or EQOA if I cared to scare up an old PS2. I still have a CoH sub, and played that a couple times this week. WOW has a 20-level freebie, but that's pretty boring. AoC has a freebie too, tho I have nothing high enough to hit the free-to-play/pay-to-win divide.
On the single-player side, I recently played thru "The Longest Journey" again (great game), and "Dreamfall". Come on, Funcom! That series has been a dangling cliff-hanger since SWG hit the fan!
For total retro, I picked up and started "Fallout", with "Fallout 2" when I finish it. I was about a third of the way thru "Tron 2.0" before I rebuilt my system (but kept my saved games so I wouldn't have to start over).
And I'm still several "Tomb Raider" games behind the present. Starting with SWG, online gaming really sucked up all my available gaming time.
Been bouncing back and forth between WoW and other MMO's since the NGE myself, but heading to TOR for the foreseeable future.
What about you?
I played SWG(on starsider mostly) right after the NGE hit. on and off for years. missed pre-cu, and didn't even know about mmo's before then. sad to see it die. I've played EVE. I tried TOR. grinded an imperial agent high enough to get the most beautiful ship in TOR, the phantom. turns out, it's only beautiful while docked. the space game in TOR is so fucked up, the phantom looks like a purple pancake when you actually fly it, and the space mini-game itself isn't even starfox; it's starfox's asshole. my Z-95 starter ship in SWG was better. I tried entropia. good game, if you like a virtual casino, and you enjoy spending lots of money, because that shit ISN'T FREE. their space game doesn't truly exist yet. kinda bare bones. some ships, even caps, but the whole thing lacks, big-time. they say a space expansion is coming; we'll see ^^ I don't know where to go from here, but I'm sticking to what I said on this forum last year:
If I see one more fucking elf, I'll go on a jihad.
Sorry for those who think SWG ended in 2011, that game died when the NGE was forced on the player base.
As for what i am doing in the interim, i try out most any MMOs, none have come close to what SWG provided, i am very interested in GW2 though, the dev blog about the WvWvW PvP has gotten me very excited.
Was considering TERA, but i dunno very on the fence with that game. The Secret World also has me very intrigued. Basically if you provide me with a decent World PvP environment where it means something, i think i will have a strong interest in it.
SWG ended and started playing SWTOR the next day. Gonna play TSW when that comes out and hopefully play that until The Repop, Dominus, or ArcheAge comes out. Or TSW could keep me hooked. SWTOR is fun but its not a long term game for me.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Where am I headed? Definitely not SWTOR, or any MMORPGs anymore for that matter. Been playing alot of Skyrim, dusted off BF2, and playing Sins of a Solar Empire with the mod, "Sins of a Galactic Empire" for some Star Wars flavor.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
DDO/NFSW/WoW/SWTOR/APB:R/DCU:O/CoH/did try to get in to Fallen Earth but could not be arsed to open the ports needed
Or to put it simple... As far away from SWG and the remains of it's community as i can. Yeah it was a fun game and all but it is dead and gone.
But if you like the style, give Project Entropia/Entropia Universe a shot. You can invest a normal monthly fee and get tons of fun out of it and it is fairly livley in some points.. sure it has not lightsabres but otoh it has coats that sell for several hundra dollars.. real money.
So really i will admit i first started SWG on release day and i was drawn to it because it was Star Wars, but what kept me playing that game was the mechanics, the Raph Koster influence on the whole game.
While not a single game since right before the NGE has really held my attention like SWG did, i have tried several MMOs since.
Nothing has grabbed my attention like the sandbox gameplay as SWG did. Themeparks just plain bore me to death, i have tried them all and lost interest in all of them in a matter of weeks/months.
If Raph Koster made a new game based around his ideas and not tied into a major "ip" i would jump on that game in a heartbeat. Maybe we could get him to start a kickstarter project ?
Anyhow i am waiting on GW2, TSW, Dominus, and eventually ArcheAge.
As a side thought here, if EvE ever implemented ship interiors and then ship to ship boarding and assaults i would join that game in a flat second, or if some space game did that. Space combat like SWG but individual players could lead assaults on other player ships..... such a dream of mine.
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In limbo as I have been since the NGE. SWTOR was a complete and total bust for me. I bought the download, and now it looks like I will never even enter my product key and register it since I had a chance to play it in two betas and now early game access. I'm pretty much done at this point.
We have no sandbox or even a decent hybrid to call home, that's for sure.
I'm interested in Guild Wars 2 next year, even though it is a themepark, but even more than that I am watching The Secret World and ArchAge (sandbox, looks good on paper - don't they all?)
Other than this, I feel screwed. I feel like I keep waiting for one of these companies to get it right again and create meaningful gameplay and adventuring. I can't take the spoon-fed themeparks. Ever waiting to throw my money at someone.
I think it says something that at one time I was paying for three paid accounts in SWG at $45/month, yet the thought of even spending $15 on today's garbage games makes me ill. SWTOR for $60 + 15/month... don't make me laugh!
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I feel bad for the players that stuck with it after the NGE fiasco as they had to deal with not only SOE's constant idiocy but the idiocy of the "vets" who never learned to just move on. I refused to stick with it because once all my friends left, there was no reason to stick with it. I never liked the system to begin with and my guild was the only reason I played it as long as I did. Once they left, I left. I will certainly never support an SOE MMO ever again.
I'll be playing TOR once the box arrives in a few days. I played it in beta and really enjoyed it. Far as other MMOs go, I'm just not interested in paying a sub for a boring leveling experience, which is what most of them have. The whole "endgame is where it is at" mindset just doesn't do it for me. I
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
I started playing SWG around mid 2004, it was my sophmore year in college, and at that point I hadn't jumped on the MMORPG bandwagon. At that time the thought of paying a continuous fee to play a game still seemed crazy. I had been playing the single player offerings at that time, and I can remember feeling dissapointed with the size of the small worlds, and longing for a game that presented a larger world. So, I saw the SWG Collector's Edition in CompUSA one day, mulled it over for a couple more days, and decided to take a chance, and the rest is history as they say...
I played the hell out of SWG, and even through the Combat Upgrade, but when SOE crapped out the NGE, I was done. The game that I had grown to love in many ways died. After that soccer punch, I began looking for something to replace SWG (which by the way, can never be done, SWG is too unique), and stumbled onto Eve-Online and I've been there ever since. I've don't suspect I will be leaving any time soon either considering the garbage that passes for MMORPGs these days.
I've got my eye on a few MMOs, but I'm not holding my breath. GW2 is still very much a themepark, ArchAge is too Asian, the two that I think show the most promise are Pathfinder Online and maybe the Secret World. I suspect that I'll be playing SWG once again when one of the Emulator projects is released, I'm eager to relive the past and make more memories in SWG, there is still much more to experience. That's the nice thing about sandboxes...
TOR on the other hand is no replacement, and just a sad waste of time and money. It's faults and shortcommings have been expounded upon ad infinitum, so I see no need to state them again. Needless to say, I won't be playing it... EVER!
I played SWG from launch till NGE, and returned now and then after that.
I was; Enki, Evile, and Shohadaku on Gorath server. I also played the pilot Enki on Starsider. Iron Circle was my guild in SWG, and we moved to Juyo server on TOR.
Knights of Iron is the Republic side, Iron Circle is Empire.
My Sith is named Evile
My Republic (inactive atm due to using my sith) is Enki.
Still doing my same-old, same-old: SOE Station Pass (whatever they call it now), so I can dip in and out of EQ, EQ2, Vanguard. Maybe I could try Planetside for a change. Or EQOA if I cared to scare up an old PS2. I still have a CoH sub, and played that a couple times this week. WOW has a 20-level freebie, but that's pretty boring. AoC has a freebie too, tho I have nothing high enough to hit the free-to-play/pay-to-win divide.
On the single-player side, I recently played thru "The Longest Journey" again (great game), and "Dreamfall". Come on, Funcom! That series has been a dangling cliff-hanger since SWG hit the fan!
For total retro, I picked up and started "Fallout", with "Fallout 2" when I finish it. I was about a third of the way thru "Tron 2.0" before I rebuilt my system (but kept my saved games so I wouldn't have to start over).
And I'm still several "Tomb Raider" games behind the present. Starting with SWG, online gaming really sucked up all my available gaming time.
How so?
Styran from Eclipse, [DEATH]. Played from launch to NGE. Homeless now. Still waiting ...
I gave SWTOR a try, but did not even stay the first month.
Now i am playing Vanguard, looks like some others are giving it a try also.
I am looking forward to Archage, Repopulation, Darktide ... perhaps one of these games will become a new home..
Playing: VGSoH
Played: UO, DAoC, SWG, SWTOR, WoW, AoC, EQ2, Eve
I played SWG(on starsider mostly) right after the NGE hit. on and off for years. missed pre-cu, and didn't even know about mmo's before then. sad to see it die. I've played EVE. I tried TOR. grinded an imperial agent high enough to get the most beautiful ship in TOR, the phantom. turns out, it's only beautiful while docked. the space game in TOR is so fucked up, the phantom looks like a purple pancake when you actually fly it, and the space mini-game itself isn't even starfox; it's starfox's asshole. my Z-95 starter ship in SWG was better. I tried entropia. good game, if you like a virtual casino, and you enjoy spending lots of money, because that shit ISN'T FREE. their space game doesn't truly exist yet. kinda bare bones. some ships, even caps, but the whole thing lacks, big-time. they say a space expansion is coming; we'll see ^^ I don't know where to go from here, but I'm sticking to what I said on this forum last year:
If I see one more fucking elf, I'll go on a jihad.
I mean it.
SWTOR until I hit 50 and a little beyond but its pretty much a let down as I expected it to be.
Have a toe in LOTRO but their annoucement of another expansion with 10 more levels means more grind, grind, grind.
Maybe I'll go read a good book.
2004-shutdown, currently in EVE. It's an ok game but it'll never replace SWG, for all it's bugs it was the one...
SWG 2003-2011 Quit playing TOR recently and started playing Ultima Online, maybe dabble in DAOC again.
I'm liking TERA atm. Still scratching the itch....
Sorry for those who think SWG ended in 2011, that game died when the NGE was forced on the player base.
As for what i am doing in the interim, i try out most any MMOs, none have come close to what SWG provided, i am very interested in GW2 though, the dev blog about the WvWvW PvP has gotten me very excited.
Was considering TERA, but i dunno very on the fence with that game. The Secret World also has me very intrigued. Basically if you provide me with a decent World PvP environment where it means something, i think i will have a strong interest in it.
Lolipops !
Damn you!
SWG is still alive in my heart along with my muon gold addiction.
I'm playing Linkrealms beta. You guys should join me.
Was in SWTOR for 2 months, end game after reaching level 50 is very weak. Going to SWGEMU. Ha HA
SWG ended and started playing SWTOR the next day. Gonna play TSW when that comes out and hopefully play that until The Repop, Dominus, or ArcheAge comes out. Or TSW could keep me hooked. SWTOR is fun but its not a long term game for me.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Where am I headed? Definitely not SWTOR, or any MMORPGs anymore for that matter. Been playing alot of Skyrim, dusted off BF2, and playing Sins of a Solar Empire with the mod, "Sins of a Galactic Empire" for some Star Wars flavor.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Im going to those places im not allowed to mention here on this forum, or i will be banned, because they are not official.
in no specific order
DDO/NFSW/WoW/SWTOR/APB:R/DCU:O/CoH/did try to get in to Fallen Earth but could not be arsed to open the ports needed
Or to put it simple... As far away from SWG and the remains of it's community as i can. Yeah it was a fun game and all but it is dead and gone.
But if you like the style, give Project Entropia/Entropia Universe a shot. You can invest a normal monthly fee and get tons of fun out of it and it is fairly livley in some points.. sure it has not lightsabres but otoh it has coats that sell for several hundra dollars.. real money.
This have been a good conversation
If you meant Dawntide (Darktide) there's bad news... apparently they've run out of funds and shut down.
Guild Wars 2.
And keeping an eye on Archeage and Planetside 2.
I cant recommend GW2 because op wants a real MMO, not some "max level in 3 days" game. Cant recommend SWTOR because its too linear and no sandbox.
So here is hoping Archage is the answer.
So really i will admit i first started SWG on release day and i was drawn to it because it was Star Wars, but what kept me playing that game was the mechanics, the Raph Koster influence on the whole game.
While not a single game since right before the NGE has really held my attention like SWG did, i have tried several MMOs since.
Nothing has grabbed my attention like the sandbox gameplay as SWG did. Themeparks just plain bore me to death, i have tried them all and lost interest in all of them in a matter of weeks/months.
If Raph Koster made a new game based around his ideas and not tied into a major "ip" i would jump on that game in a heartbeat. Maybe we could get him to start a kickstarter project ?
Anyhow i am waiting on GW2, TSW, Dominus, and eventually ArcheAge.
As a side thought here, if EvE ever implemented ship interiors and then ship to ship boarding and assaults i would join that game in a flat second, or if some space game did that. Space combat like SWG but individual players could lead assaults on other player ships..... such a dream of mine.
Lolipops !