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I ve seen haters hate, but this is really trying to find anything. It s a game, pixels, not a real world, and guess what you won t bleed if your charecter gets hurt in game. I know people like MMOs, as do I, but I think some people need to really look at themselves seriously, when all they do with their time is, bash a game or games, when they could actually be doing something constructive.
Oh well to each their own, and I know I don t have to read the haters drivel, but it actually intrigues me to how people can waste their lives so much, when theres alot out there but this or any forum.
If you can't appreciate the genre you're reviewing, you shouldn't be reviewing it. SWTOR offers the best leveling experience of any themepark MMO. It in no way deserves a 6/10 release score.
This I agree with, haven t had this much fun leveling ever for that matter, and actually enjoy alts again.
I disagree, I think his opinion had to be in there as the voice of the sandbox gamer. Everyone has different opinions and not everyone likes themepark mmo's. Not eveyone likes SWTOR and this reflects it. Just because I disagree with his opinion doesnt make it wrong, or not valid. Infact its inclusion in the review roundup makes it much more balanced and fair as the opinions of different types of gamers are taken into account.
Still doesnt mean he should have posted articles that mmorpg.com were paying him for on other sites before MMORPG.com had posted them.
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why fire him only after the swtor review if he posted things before? he made no effort to hide it nor his identity, surely they would have known.
he was canned for the swtor review, which bill calls derogatory and look how bill can specifically point out the thread on another site saying he's awesome for being the only one not a drone(nothing worng with saying that unless he was getting paid to write a feature stating "i'm the only one at my job who isn't enamored with swtor").
he can't name the other breaches though. if someone could be so kind as to post all his other articles he posted before they could be put here.
I dont disagree that you like swtor at all, your more than entitled to that opinion. I think its recycled garbage, which is my opinion.
Being paid to say yay or nay and acting against those who disagree for the sake of money is what this thread is about.
There is no solid proof that the devil EA paid MMORPG.com anything.
It's nothing more than an allegation and thanks to Bill's post we can all put our tinfoil hats away. For now, at least.
Bill was candid, wasn't he? And did Danny debunk Bill's post? Not to my knowledge.
There were times when people believed, supported and defended with passion the idea that Earth is flat or more recent example, that there is global warming phenomenon taking place.
Your post is full of false assumptions about what Jeff's co-workers knew and what was happening within the company, what one did or didn't, what they should do or shouldn't and why...
I would say the opposite. If you appreciate the genre you are reviewing there is no way this game can get a higher score than 6. The game is primarily a single player game and could basically be played offline without noticing much of a difference.
Even for a themepark the game is extremely linear so to the extent that WoW is less linear and once you played on either the Republic and Empire any alt you play will level through the 75% same content with only the class story being noticeable different.
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Uncalled for.
I asked you about philosophical concept. And best you can do is to throw personal insult.
Well, you are reported, buddy.
Dont know if mods are going to do anything, since they ban very randomly. But I hope they do ban you, and teach you some respect.
Your intentions of what the thread is about are fine, but it false of why he got let go. You re just trying to give so called bad press to the game you hate. In all honesty, you re doing nothing but help SWTOR. I m not going to tell you why, i ll lrt you figure it out.
Because a poster from those forums reported Danny's post to the mods here on mmorpg.com. Google it if you'd like.
i saw a fair review a bit back the british guy with 2 of his friend sound only but was fair ,not coated in chocolate and all.(might be having 3 people in same time help unbiase the idea a bit!(alibut i think ,it always say epic and you see the negland flag lol)
Amazing the lengths people will go to defend their viewpoint... Anyways, a few observations/opinions:
The reviewer deserved to be fired. Ayone, in any line of work that acted the way he did would have been fired.
I find it funny about the people spouting how sites like this are biased, how they are in the pocket of game companies and "censor" negative comments... Yet, page after page of forums threads is wall-to-wall negative comments, long diatrides of hate against every gamme and usually from the same people moaning the loudest about censorship.
Funny to start a thread witht he word "proof" but then state proof is impossible or must be infered...
Yes we know viral marketing exists. Yes, companies have resorted to shill from time to time to create hype. But, to call anyone who post a positive review or comment about a game they like a paid "shill" is insulting and just makes you look like this guy:
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
Like their is no proof that politicians are bought by corps which engages into lobbying activities? Corruption, be it media or political can rarely be proven, if done right. You can never prove that the ad which company X paid for positively proves that the review of said site will be more favorable towards that company but common sense says that if company X does not like the reviews of site Y then they will simply stop paying them for ads and then site Y will lose out of a substantial profit and possibly go under.
This is not exclusive to gaming sites, all kinds of major media outlets are influenced by company ads/contributions. That is just the way it unfourtunately works. That is why small independant sites are the only one's you can trust to have candid reviews.
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i saw that........
you get on google now, and show me all of his other offenses because apparently this wasn't just about swtor. i want to see all these times he has posted content elsewhere before it was up here.
go.
You can attack that in at least two different ways:
1. You can consider "MMORPG" to be the genre of interest, and score accordingly.
2. You refuse to accept "themepark a la Wow" as the only possible form of themeparks.
Well, they have paid for showing banners, resently for TOR and before that for WAR. I assume our conspiracy theorists believe that the site don't dare to offend EA since it might mean losing some income.
But frankly is EA far from the company that advertises most here, right now it would be the company making Dragona.
Not true at all, it s less linear then most themeparks I ve played. I can tell you WOW isn t less linear in my experiences. My alts aren t leveling through 75% of the same content, not even close. I have found camps off of the beaten path that actually have quests, some I haven t done on other chars. I actually took my main to many of the planets only to find quests etc, that my main never even saw.
You can barely pay attention to the game and what it has to offer while playing it, come on here and say complete garbage, or actually play the game, explore a little, and see it has alot more to offer then you think.
mike b isnt perfect!if you feel one of his rep isnt up to snuf just mention it to him ,he ll lok into the situation discuss with other of his more veteran staff and see if mesure need to be taken .athene(athenlive.com)he try to scan troll to make sure they dont squeeze trou,you know what there is always a troll that squeeze trou..it can happen at mmorpg we ll have to wait and see if this is an issue like the op said or just the op oppinion that is biased or not!
I still remember when dragon age was being released and this very site changed the main page buttons with dragon age theme and dragon age logo.
Ever seen them doing something like that for ANY other game? let alone a single player game which is not online?
Thought so.
Goodness, you people sure play hardball
I happened to stumble onto that thread because of the discussion that was going on when the review thread was still open. I Googled for the alias he was using on this site and found the one on darkfallforums.
If I find out more I'll be sure to post.
I'm suprised this thread has lasted this long.
Very nice write up.
Review is less about right and wrong and more about point of view. We as consumers just need to find a review that agree with our own point of view and run with it.
As of right now mmorpg.com dont have any review that support my point of view so to me they are a waste to even read.
I fully understand that he forced theyr hand and had to let him go though.
Translation please!