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  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    They've got *nothing* on Bioware, when it comes to arrogance.  But for the most part, they're very diplomatic when they refer to their competitors.  Only Mike O'Brien strikes me as a bit cocky.  I wish he would adopt more of a quiet confidence stance.

    EDIT:  Oh, and I think they actually do know better.  But I'd prefer if they let their work speak to that though.

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Since when did we care so much about the people who write the games we play.  Is the game enjoyable for me or is it not, that's the only thing I care about. 

    If  I knew of a great decorator who I know would make of great job of painting my house for a reasonable cost, I would not say as a customer  'omg he is so arrogant'  I would say, come decorate my house. 

    They provide a service, Im not going to marry them.

     

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • dageezadageeza Member Posts: 578

    Anet and ncsoft are very confident in their product and so am i after experiencing it first hand...

    This game is going to shake things up in a rather stale status quo industy and its been a long time coming..

    Playing GW2..

  • stragen001stragen001 Member UncommonPosts: 1,720

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    There IS an unprecidented amount of hype surrounding this game. Whether it is justified or not time will tell, however, I didnt see any hype in that article at all. 

    It was a very interesting insight 

    Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom

  • sammyelisammyeli Member Posts: 765

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    The rift forums are not here O_O.

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    “The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.”

    Carl Sagan-

  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    Originally posted by Purgatus

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    The we are better then you thing is getting old. Every interview or dev panel I see they act high and mighty, but fail to mention not everyone likes Guild Wars and thought the game was incomplete for a number of years.

     

    This GW2 will save genre stuff will lead to this game geting labeled as a complete failure by alot of people. You cannot set the bar that high, then believe your own hype. The entire dev conference MMORPG.com just hosted the ArenaNET guy took a "higher then mighty" opinion criticizing every single game out right now and then pointing to GW2 as some perfect game.

     

    I am cheering for any game that loosens Blizzards stranglehold on the genre, but the ArenaNET devs do need a reality check that running a MMORPG is far different then running a niche CORPG.

  • slicknslim88slicknslim88 Member Posts: 394

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Your right, those bastards, hyping their game through this article, what could they be thinking??  Those arrogant jerks writing about how happy they are creating a promising MMO game that has millions of people looking foward to it.  Being happy that their hard work and determination finally paying off as the game wins awards and getting unrelenting praise even pre-launch.  They shouldn't be talking about that stuff, talking about it and being happy about it is just arrogance and hype,

    I know what your saying about the "We know better than you" mentality, I mean they should be doing a WoW clone like every other company, THEY are the ones who really know what they are talking about.  I mean why evolve the industry when going with the same tried and true formula that has worked for the better part of a century is always an option?  Silly Arenanet and their arrogant efforts at trying new ways to connect a community through new and interesting game mechanics that further the way gamers think about playing the MMO genre.

    And talking about these new features is just ALL HYPE, I mean telling it like it is is just riding the hype train, they should do what SWTOR did and just brag about how many awards they are going to win and already have won, thats what people want to hear about, not the promises of game features that improve on their already amazing formula.

    (btw, that was all sarcasm)

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    It's Puremallace, I don't know why anyone still takes his bait.

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    How you could have read that article and found the developers arrogant is beyond me. Pretty humble staff if you ask me. Very good read, you should give it a look.

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • sammyelisammyeli Member Posts: 765

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    It's Puremallace, I don't know why anyone still takes his bait.

    Thats why I stated these are not the rift forums  O_O

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    “The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.”

    Carl Sagan-

  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Originally posted by Purgatus



    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    The we are better then you thing is getting old. Every interview or dev panel I see they act high and mighty, but fail to mention not everyone likes Guild Wars and thought the game was incomplete for a number of years.

     

    This GW2 will save genre stuff will lead to this game geting labeled as a complete failure by alot of people. You cannot set the bar that high, then believe your own hype. The entire dev conference MMORPG.com just hosted the ArenaNET guy took a "higher then mighty" opinion criticizing every single game out right now and then pointing to GW2 as some perfect game.

     

    I am cheering for any game that loosens Blizzards stranglehold on the genre, but the ArenaNET devs do need a reality check that running a MMORPG is far different then running a niche CORPG.

    I see. Though I'm not familiar with the incidencts you describe, I'll admit, GW2 has lots of hype behind it. I personally feel that it's founded, but thats personal opinion.

     

    Still, none of that relates to the article.

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Originally posted by Purgatus

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    The we are better then you thing is getting old. Every interview or dev panel I see they act high and mighty, but fail to mention not everyone likes Guild Wars and thought the game was incomplete for a number of years.

     

    This GW2 will save genre stuff will lead to this game geting labeled as a complete failure by alot of people. You cannot set the bar that high, then believe your own hype. The entire dev conference MMORPG.com just hosted the ArenaNET guy took a "higher then mighty" opinion criticizing every single game out right now and then pointing to GW2 as some perfect game.

     

    I am cheering for any game that loosens Blizzards stranglehold on the genre, but the ArenaNET devs do need a reality check that running a MMORPG is far different then running a niche CORPG.

    I say again, why would we as customer give 1 damn about the dev's attitude, do they care about their customers, and is it a good game - thats the only things we need to care about. 

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • RamanadjinnRamanadjinn Member UncommonPosts: 1,365

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Originally posted by Purgatus



    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    The we are better then you thing is getting old. Every interview or dev panel I see they act high and mighty, but fail to mention not everyone likes Guild Wars and thought the game was incomplete for a number of years.

     

    This GW2 will save genre stuff will lead to this game geting labeled as a complete failure by alot of people. You cannot set the bar that high, then believe your own hype. The entire dev conference MMORPG.com just hosted the ArenaNET guy took a "higher then mighty" opinion criticizing every single game out right now and then pointing to GW2 as some perfect game.

     

    I am cheering for any game that loosens Blizzards stranglehold on the genre, but the ArenaNET devs do need a reality check that running a MMORPG is far different then running a niche CORPG.

     

    i wonder if there could maybe be some sort of reason why they publicly only have good things to say about their product.

    maybe if i herped and/or derped less i could figure it out!

  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    It's Puremallace, I don't know why anyone still takes his bait.

    Maybe because the top 20  posted that were wrong with TOR 17 of them turned out to be the TOP 17 reasons people unsubbed. It is called being fair and balanced when evaluating a mmorpg and not just a doe-eyed fanboi amazed by every little minor pitiful leak.

     

    This game is not impressing me as much obviously as it is impressing you guys. There just needs to be a reality check of what this game will and will not do. Not sure if anyone here realizes, but WoW gets stronger everytime the labeled "WoW killer" does not live up to this insane hype.

     

    Where has this magical faith in ArenaNET come from honestly? Up until 1 1/2 years ago because the hype machine went into full drive people could give 2 shits about Guild Wars and thought ArenaNET was a bad dev who did not have what it took to even compete against Blizzard.

     

    Now 2 years of delays on a game that was promised in 2011 Summer we are hyped again. WHERE THE HELL IS THE OUTRAGE OVER no open beta in December of 2011 like they touted?

  • cutthecrapcutthecrap Member Posts: 600

    Originally posted by Purgatus

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    I think the guy was more making a general observation of the overhyping as done by some hardcore GW2 fans.

    As for some statements that could objectively be regarded as much as hyping as well as (over?)confidence:

    "I think Guild Wars 2 is going to be the highest quality game ever released: - Mike O'Brien

    'Something that stood out for Randall Price was Guild Wars 1 passing five million sales. (It's now sold more than 6.5 million, making it one of the most successful PC games ever.) All of those fans, Price believes, are "frothing at the mouth for what we can do in the future".'

    "Any of us, we want to look back at our lives and go 'wow, we really shook up the industry, we really made a game that changed the way people thought about gaming.' We've had an opportunity to do that. ... We have an amazing future ahead of us."'

     

    Everyone who has ever bought and played GW is 'frothing at the mouth' for what ANet people can do? There have been tens of thousands of games over the years, with hundreds top-of-the-bill highest quality games among them. Yet GW2 will be the highest quality game ever released in 35 years of gaming?

    I can see comments like this in perspective with an amused smile, not the first time that devs make extreme statements out of overtly excited. But at the same time they can be considered hyping. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it has been regarded like that when less extreme statements were being made by other devs and game company representatives over the years.

  • cutthecrapcutthecrap Member Posts: 600

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    This game is not impressing me as much obviously as it is impressing you guys. There just needs to be a reality check of what this game will and will not do. Not sure if anyone here realizes, but WoW gets stronger everytime the labeled "WoW killer" does not live up to this insane hype.

    Don't see much throwing around of the term 'WoW killer', besides that, WoW isn't going stronger at all anymore: it's in a decline with decreasing subs, and the only thing that will be influenced is the speed with which the decrease will continue.

     

    I agree on the point that some people as usual are going into hyper mode for the MMO of their choice, but nothing will ever change that, no matter what MMO.

  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    It's Puremallace, I don't know why anyone still takes his bait.

    Maybe because the top 20  posted that were wrong with TOR 17 of them turned out to be the TOP 17 reasons people unsubbed. It is called being fair and balanced when evaluating a mmorpg and not just a doe-eyed fanboi amazed by every little minor pitiful leak.

     

    This game is not impressing me as much obviously as it is impressing you guys. There just needs to be a reality check of what this game will and will not do. Not sure if anyone here realizes, but WoW gets stronger everytime the labeled "WoW killer" does not live up to this insane hype.

     

    Where has this magical faith in ArenaNET come from honestly? Up until 1 1/2 years ago because the hype machine went into full drive people could give 2 shits about Guild Wars and thought ArenaNET was a bad dev who did not have what it took to even compete against Blizzard.

     

    Now 2 years of delays on a game that was promised in 2011 Summer we are hyped again. WHERE THE HELL IS THE OUTRAGE OVER no open beta in December of 2011 like they touted?

    Did you notice when Mike O'Brien said that nothing would kill WoW except WoW?  I take that to mean that he doesn't see GW2 as a WoW-killer.  Given how arrogant you think ArenaNet is, what did you take it to mean?

    EDIT:  Missed this part.  OK, you really are full of it.  Stew in your own BS then.

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    An interesting quote on the amount of content in the game:

    As with Daniel Dociu, I ask James Ackley if he can begin to describe the amount of sound in Guild Wars 2. He came from F.E.A.R. developer Monolith Productions, where games were expected to last someone around 20 to 50 hours. ArenaNet expects "three hundred to a thousand hours or something for this game, for a lot of people to play", Ackley tells me. "It took me probably a year and a half before I realised how big it really was, and how much work there really was to do."

    People shouldn't fear that they won't get their $60 worth from GW2.

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • evolver1972evolver1972 Member Posts: 1,118

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    It's Puremallace, I don't know why anyone still takes his bait.

    ^^This times 100.

     

    The least he could do is get his facts straight.

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    You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

    Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  • SlampigSlampig Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Originally posted by cutthecrap

    Originally posted by Purgatus


    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    I think the guy was more making a general observation of the overhyping as done by some hardcore GW2 fans.

    As for some statements that could objectively be regarded as much as hyping as well as (over?)confidence:

    "I think Guild Wars 2 is going to be the highest quality game ever released: - Mike O'Brien

    'Something that stood out for Randall Price was Guild Wars 1 passing five million sales. (It's now sold more than 6.5 million, making it one of the most successful PC games ever.) All of those fans, Price believes, are "frothing at the mouth for what we can do in the future".'

    "Any of us, we want to look back at our lives and go 'wow, we really shook up the industry, we really made a game that changed the way people thought about gaming.' We've had an opportunity to do that. ... We have an amazing future ahead of us."'

     

    Everyone who has ever bought and played GW is 'frothing at the mouth' for what ANet people can do? There have been tens of thousands of games over the years, with hundreds top-of-the-bill highest quality games among them. Yet GW2 will be the highest quality game ever released in 35 years of gaming?

    I can see comments like this in perspective with an amused smile, not the first time that devs make extreme statements out of overtly excited. But at the same time they can be considered hyping. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it has been regarded like that when less extreme statements were being made by other devs and game company representatives over the years.

    Nope, I still would kind of like my money back...

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    The article didn't make me cry. :(

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    On the hype surrounding the game:

    "It's hard not to get caught up in the moment and get swept up in the emotions of the hype that's existing outside of this company. The fans are demanding. They're super excited, but they're demanding something that's fantastic, something that's great. And I just hope we can deliver up to their expectations. We think we've been able to make something great, and we just hope that the fans can agree that this is something that's truly super."

     

    Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
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  • PurgatusPurgatus Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by cutthecrap

    Originally posted by Purgatus


    Originally posted by Puremallace

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Will it ever end. Nice read and in depth articles about the devs.

     

    There arrogance is really starting to piss me off though just so you know. The "we know better then everyone else" attitude is getting old and will bite them once the game is released.

    Really? Hype? This artilce is about the history of the company and the kind of people who work there. They are very pround of what they have done, but who wonldn't be. They barely talk about game features at all. What are they hypeing?

    I think the guy was more making a general observation of the overhyping as done by some hardcore GW2 fans.

    As for some statements that could objectively be regarded as much as hyping as well as (over?)confidence:

    "I think Guild Wars 2 is going to be the highest quality game ever released: - Mike O'Brien

     

    This seems senseible. I would expect a CEO to belive that a project such as this is the highest quality.

     

    'Something that stood out for Randall Price was Guild Wars 1 passing five million sales. (It's now sold more than 6.5 million, making it one of the most successful PC games ever.) All of those fans, Price believes, are "frothing at the mouth for what we can do in the future".'

     

    For me, the word "fans" made this a statment of fact. Obviously fans are going to be "frothing at the mouth" as not everyone who bought the game is a fan.

     

    "Any of us, we want to look back at our lives and go 'wow, we really shook up the industry, we really made a game that changed the way people thought about gaming.' We've had an opportunity to do that. ... We have an amazing future ahead of us."'

     

    This part in particular was great. He was talking about how he worried sometimes that the five years on the project would make an impact on the gaming world, and then said that he felt like he did with this project.

     

    I guess I rate hype as "concepts that sound good on paper, but may end up sucking." I was worried about the hype concerning the Dynamic Events until a little while ago for example.

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