what you see in the comments is just your typical bias and anti eastern mentality of this forums. most of them are always whining that games are ether too childish or not 'sandboxy' enough. here is a game which is obviously either full sandbox or has many sandbox features yet people just come up with ridiculous statements as to why the game is 'bad'.
personally the system sounds great, and as historically acurate as a game could (or should) be. when it releases it hopefully will be polished enough and add something new and worthwhile to the MMO market.
Ugh, sounds like an awful, boring PvP grind to me. No thanks. If I wanted that I'd do WoW battlegrounds / arenas.
Why'd they have to ruin this game with FFA PvP anyway? Was so looking forward to it until I found out about that particular 'feature'. Sigh..
Edit: Not to mention, you're gonna be hurting for a LOT more than 24 hours after castration, even with modern surgical techniques. Also, what do female characters do? Mutiliate their genitalia in some fashion, or are they just SOL and can't learn the technique?
Originally posted by crwynnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongfang_Bubai - Sunflower manual(In the books, said Invincible East uses a needle/hair pin when using skills from the sunflower manual I believe)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smiling,_Proud_Wanderer - (search: Star Sucking Great Skill) (From what I recall, said skill has a literal suction effect, and can basically drain the target of all his qi. What made it so fearsome was that this draining of qi was permanent (and additionally permamently increased the performer's own power as well). Though this is likely not the case in the game)
The above two skills in AoW is based on the lore, for example in the game you need a special needle to use the Sunflower Skill and opponents falling to save against Star Absorbing skill would have their cultivation points drained and movement reduced. The leeched cultivation points restored the HP and Internal strength of the player using the Star Absorbing skill.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
Originally posted by mindw0rkI have one question. Are those two single abilities or unique schools with set of different abilities?
These are just two of the first three standalone "divinity class" skills to be released.
The skills are extremely difficult to train and in some way those who achieve them are 'accursed' in game fulfilling the lore.
Anyway players who spend all their time trying to achieve them might neglected their other studies and found themselve having to contest against players making better progress than they in 4th tier school skills and beyond.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
Ugh, sounds like an awful, boring PvP grind to me. No thanks. If I wanted that I'd do WoW battlegrounds / arenas.
Why'd they have to ruin this game with FFA PvP anyway? Was so looking forward to it until I found out about that particular 'feature'. Sigh..
Edit: Not to mention, you're gonna be hurting for a LOT more than 24 hours after castration, even with modern surgical techniques. Also, what do female characters do? Mutiliate their genitalia in some fashion, or are they just SOL and can't learn the technique?
I might be wrong and having left WOW just after battlegrounds came out perhaps you can point me to where WOW has this type of PVP.
Originally posted by AresPLthis game is in wuxia theme so its normal You will see here things from novelseveryoen can learn clan or no clanno idea what female will cut but they can learn it / saw screens from test server
There is nothing for female to cut.
Females can channel Sunflower skill without harm. But any man who doesn't 'cut it' will be driven crazy and eventually kill by it.
In Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series there is a somewhat similar concept where only female Aes Sedai can normally use the force call One Power.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
Which part killed your urge lol, skills like these are not meant to come easy. If your talking about the effects of the castration then you do know that beheading and the prison system have side effects, right?
When you first make a character in Age Of Wushu it gives you a message before you log in.
Basically it tells you that the game is a FFA PVP game, do you want to proceed. This isn't GW2 or WOW, logging into the game means you know what you are getting yourself into. Of course you are safe for a while untill you build cultivation to 11 or internal school level 5 up.
Funny thing is because the type of game it is you find players are pretty honorable.
1st off, awsome concept of a skill, gotta be pretty ballsy to do that heh.
2nd: honorable in EU/USA not the same as in Korea. No idea how Chinese PvP tho, but I'll just assume it's similar to how Koreans play, which is a LOT more honorable. As in, when ppl see you fighting, they don't interfere mostly, whereas in US/EU it's the opposite... Hell, here you have whole guilds dedicated to griefing, lowbie killing, zerging and what not, their main sustenance the tears of the fallen opponents and the QQ of slain on forums their bedtime stories. So far in any FFA PvP game (and even without severe penalites) I saw precious little honor among players. Not to mention, the bigger the penalty, the higher the incentive to cheat.
at first in chinese version was same, pkers were running everywhere, but with time they clm down, also chinese version added system where guild can set battle with other guild, they chose map and they can pk there without any penalty for 24h
but its still more like gang fest, bigger guilds just stay corner smaller one at spawn points till they are bored
Originally posted by AresPLthis game is in wuxia theme so its normal You will see here things from novelseveryoen can learn clan or no clanno idea what female will cut but they can learn it / saw screens from test server
There is nothing for female to cut.
Females can channel Sunflower skill without harm. But any man who doesn't 'cut it' will be driven crazy and eventually kill by it.
In Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series there is a somewhat similar concept where only female Aes Sedai can normally use the force call One Power.
Yeah the one power is split between two, the female uses the saidar and men use the saidin. In the time of Rand al'Thor the mens side is tainted and has been for 3000 years. Any man using it is hunted down and stilled by the Aes Sedai because of the said madness and havoc it would cause.
I have all the book but it's a pity that he kind of lost his way towards the end, perhaps James Oliver Rigney, Jr- aka Robert Jordan having cancer made the books a blurry mess mash in the end.
Years ago their was talk of an MMO based on the Wheel Of Time series ..
It sounds like people are given an advantage for killing other players which allows them to kill other players better. Tell me I'm wrong and the system described above doesn't do that. I don't find it fun being on the receiving end of the killing. I have a real job and I can't spend every hour of my day improving my advantage over other players just to be on a level playing field with everyone who doesn't have a real life.
The game looks great, but I think I will pass on it if what I'm guessing is true.
Lol, the game is meant to be brutal, you sign up for it or you don't, no one can blame ya if it's to much for you. It's not your typical get it all for no effort MMO lol.
This is just one feature of the game, you really don't have to get involved in it, plenty of other things to do in the game. This game will not be for everyone, plenty of other MMOs that have less effort more reward type features.
Before log in it says "You are entering a Full PvP world. Are you ready?" you have to click yest to enter the game.
It sounds like people are given an advantage for killing other players which allows them to kill other players better. Tell me I'm wrong and the system described above doesn't do that. I don't find it fun being on the receiving end of the killing. I have a real job and I can't spend every hour of my day improving my advantage over other players just to be on a level playing field with everyone who doesn't have a real life.
The game looks great, but I think I will pass on it if what I'm guessing is true.
Lol, the game is meant to be brutal, you sign up for it or you don't, no one can blame ya if it's to much for you. It's not your typical get it all for no effort MMO lol.
This is just one feature of the game, you really don't have to get involved in it, plenty of other things to do in the game. This game will not be for everyone, plenty of other MMOs that have less effort more reward type features.
Before log in it says "You are entering a Full PvP world. Are you ready?" you have to click yest to enter the game.
This my point, you actually sign up for it before you can log in.
It sounds like people are given an advantage for killing other players which allows them to kill other players better. Tell me I'm wrong and the system described above doesn't do that. I don't find it fun being on the receiving end of the killing. I have a real job and I can't spend every hour of my day improving my advantage over other players just to be on a level playing field with everyone who doesn't have a real life.
The game looks great, but I think I will pass on it if what I'm guessing is true.
Lol, the game is meant to be brutal, you sign up for it or you don't, no one can blame ya if it's to much for you. It's not your typical get it all for no effort MMO lol.
This is just one feature of the game, you really don't have to get involved in it, plenty of other things to do in the game. This game will not be for everyone, plenty of other MMOs that have less effort more reward type features.
Before log in it says "You are entering a Full PvP world. Are you ready?" you have to click yest to enter the game.
This was my point, you are given a choice to not log in.
I have all the book but it's a pity that he kind of lost his way towards the end, perhaps James Oliver Rigney, Jr- aka Robert Jordan having cancer made the books a blurry mess mash in the end.
Yes, it is a pity because I like the earlier books in the series too. Also as a survivor of stage 4 cancer myself, I understand a bit of what he was going through.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
I have all the book but it's a pity that he kind of lost his way towards the end, perhaps James Oliver Rigney, Jr- aka Robert Jordan having cancer made the books a blurry mess mash in the end.
Yes, it is a pity because I like the earlier books in the series too. Also as a survivor of stage 4 cancer myself, I understand a bit of what he was going through.
Yeah i would understand that trying to write books and going through that would be a major distraction. More power to him for still trying though.
So it sounds like girl characters get screwed. I suggest a defloration skill for the ladies, whereby the loss of virginity will decrease movement for similar time frame.
So, they took the relentless mob grind of every other asian mmo and applied it to pvp and made the reward a skill that you can hardly ever use? I dont know if that innovative but ok? I dont know about this feature, it sounds like you need A LOT of time on your hands for it to even be a factor.
Originally posted by Terranah So it sounds like girl characters get screwed. I suggest a defloration skill for the ladies, whereby the loss of virginity will decrease movement for similar time frame.
Nope, their are a lot of punishments in Age Of Wushu that girls can have put on them.
Prison.. You can break out with five other PKers but if you will have to wait 3 hours before you can try again. Their are other ways out like bribing the guards or betting or jumping up and down to find a hidden tunnel on the floor of the cell.
Public Execution.. by beheading. Everyone can watch this happen. You can big cash to someone to take the beheading for you, your abilities are 50% reduced for 24 hours after your beheading. You really have to do some serious crime and build up over 10k SLV-Slaughter Value to be beheaded.
Originally posted by Darth-Batman So, they took the relentless mob grind of every other asian mmo and applied it to pvp and made the reward a skill that you can hardly ever use? I dont know if that innovative but ok? I dont know about this feature, it sounds like you need A LOT of time on your hands for it to even be a factor.
Well you don't get xp for grinding mobs in AoW... It seems like a long term goal. I racked up about 30 pks during cb1.
I like the idea, but 20k+ points to use/20 secs seems like A LOT at this point. It seems to be something for those who have maxed out the skills they want.
Originally posted by Terranah So it sounds like girl characters get screwed. I suggest a defloration skill for the ladies, whereby the loss of virginity will decrease movement for similar time frame.
Perhaps your meant it as sarcasm, but there is in fact lore whereby loss of virginity could cause certain skills to be lost (for both gender - but more commonly females).
While I think it is unlikely for these skills to be introduce to the game it is not impossible.
One game restriction for players practicing such skills is of course they can't get married or risk losing that skill.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
Originally posted by Terranah So it sounds like girl characters get screwed. I suggest a defloration skill for the ladies, whereby the loss of virginity will decrease movement for similar time frame.
Nope, their are a lot of punishments in Age Of Wushu that girls can have put on them.
Prison.. You can break out with five other PKers but if you will have to wait 3 hours before you can try again. Their are other ways out like bribing the guards or betting or jumping up and down to find a hidden tunnel on the floor of the cell.
Public Execution.. by beheading. Everyone can watch this happen. You can big cash to someone to take the beheading for you, your abilities are 50% reduced for 24 hours after your beheading. You really have to do some serious crime and build up over 10k SLV-Slaughter Value to be beheaded.
I played Tangmen, assasins... When I got to 2k infamy, I tried to go back to my school, and the gaurds attacked me I don't think they understood I was assasinating people like grandmother taught me
Each school has rules and penalties for breaking them. I didn't read them ofcourse...
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what you see in the comments is just your typical bias and anti eastern mentality of this forums. most of them are always whining that games are ether too childish or not 'sandboxy' enough. here is a game which is obviously either full sandbox or has many sandbox features yet people just come up with ridiculous statements as to why the game is 'bad'.
personally the system sounds great, and as historically acurate as a game could (or should) be. when it releases it hopefully will be polished enough and add something new and worthwhile to the MMO market.
Star Sucking sounds so much better than Star Absorbing.
But castration? Sigh.
Ugh, sounds like an awful, boring PvP grind to me. No thanks. If I wanted that I'd do WoW battlegrounds / arenas.
Why'd they have to ruin this game with FFA PvP anyway? Was so looking forward to it until I found out about that particular 'feature'. Sigh..
Edit: Not to mention, you're gonna be hurting for a LOT more than 24 hours after castration, even with modern surgical techniques. Also, what do female characters do? Mutiliate their genitalia in some fashion, or are they just SOL and can't learn the technique?
this game is in wuxia theme so its normal You will see here things from novels
everyoen can learn clan or no clan
no idea what female will cut but they can learn it / saw screens from test server
The above two skills in AoW is based on the lore, for example in the game you need a special needle to use the Sunflower Skill and opponents falling to save against Star Absorbing skill would have their cultivation points drained and movement reduced. The leeched cultivation points restored the HP and Internal strength of the player using the Star Absorbing skill.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
These are just two of the first three standalone "divinity class" skills to be released.The skills are extremely difficult to train and in some way those who achieve them are 'accursed' in game fulfilling the lore.
Anyway players who spend all their time trying to achieve them might neglected their other studies and found themselve having to contest against players making better progress than they in 4th tier school skills and beyond.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
I might be wrong and having left WOW just after battlegrounds came out perhaps you can point me to where WOW has this type of PVP.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/749/view/forums/thread/371858/Age-Of-Wushu-PvP-Age-Of-Wulin-PvP.html
I lool forward to logging into WOW and doing this type of PVP, thanks for the heads up.
Link me please.
Females can channel Sunflower skill without harm. But any man who doesn't 'cut it' will be driven crazy and eventually kill by it.
In Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series there is a somewhat similar concept where only female Aes Sedai can normally use the force call One Power.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
1st off, awsome concept of a skill, gotta be pretty ballsy to do that heh.
2nd: honorable in EU/USA not the same as in Korea. No idea how Chinese PvP tho, but I'll just assume it's similar to how Koreans play, which is a LOT more honorable. As in, when ppl see you fighting, they don't interfere mostly, whereas in US/EU it's the opposite... Hell, here you have whole guilds dedicated to griefing, lowbie killing, zerging and what not, their main sustenance the tears of the fallen opponents and the QQ of slain on forums their bedtime stories. So far in any FFA PvP game (and even without severe penalites) I saw precious little honor among players. Not to mention, the bigger the penalty, the higher the incentive to cheat.
So that's why we can't have nice things, imo.
at first in chinese version was same, pkers were running everywhere, but with time they clm down, also chinese version added system where guild can set battle with other guild, they chose map and they can pk there without any penalty for 24h
but its still more like gang fest, bigger guilds just stay corner smaller one at spawn points till they are bored
Yeah the one power is split between two, the female uses the saidar and men use the saidin. In the time of Rand al'Thor the mens side is tainted and has been for 3000 years. Any man using it is hunted down and stilled by the Aes Sedai because of the said madness and havoc it would cause.
I have all the book but it's a pity that he kind of lost his way towards the end, perhaps James Oliver Rigney, Jr- aka Robert Jordan having cancer made the books a blurry mess mash in the end.
Years ago their was talk of an MMO based on the Wheel Of Time series ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xw1s3yXZLYc#!
Their is some rumour that the new venture from Obsidian and Red Eagle is a MMO based on that very series.
you're not supposed to cut of your own, that's just done ingame. shesh
(and btw, castrates still have their penis'. their balls are made unfunctionable tho)
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
Before log in it says "You are entering a Full PvP world. Are you ready?" you have to click yest to enter the game.
This my point, you actually sign up for it before you can log in.
This was my point, you are given a choice to not log in.
Yes, it is a pity because I like the earlier books in the series too. Also as a survivor of stage 4 cancer myself, I understand a bit of what he was going through.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
Yeah i would understand that trying to write books and going through that would be a major distraction. More power to him for still trying though.
Nope, their are a lot of punishments in Age Of Wushu that girls can have put on them.
Prison.. You can break out with five other PKers but if you will have to wait 3 hours before you can try again. Their are other ways out like bribing the guards or betting or jumping up and down to find a hidden tunnel on the floor of the cell.
Public Execution.. by beheading. Everyone can watch this happen. You can big cash to someone to take the beheading for you, your abilities are 50% reduced for 24 hours after your beheading. You really have to do some serious crime and build up over 10k SLV-Slaughter Value to be beheaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTPHMAwiPs&feature=share&list=PL12EB95B4BE85DC04
Well you don't get xp for grinding mobs in AoW... It seems like a long term goal. I racked up about 30 pks during cb1.
I like the idea, but 20k+ points to use/20 secs seems like A LOT at this point. It seems to be something for those who have maxed out the skills they want.
Perhaps your meant it as sarcasm, but there is in fact lore whereby loss of virginity could cause certain skills to be lost (for both gender - but more commonly females).
While I think it is unlikely for these skills to be introduce to the game it is not impossible.
One game restriction for players practicing such skills is of course they can't get married or risk losing that skill.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
I played Tangmen, assasins... When I got to 2k infamy, I tried to go back to my school, and the gaurds attacked me
I don't think they understood I was assasinating people like grandmother taught me 
Each school has rules and penalties for breaking them. I didn't read them ofcourse...