Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
The War Z: Just When You Think It Can't Get Worse....
This discussion has been closed.
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Comments
+1000xp for appropriate use of Gem of True Seeing.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
you misunderstood me. my apologies. i was using your post as an example of someone who could see through the bullshit to what was really going.
that was my fault for not clarifying.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
When he was interviewed about the Problem with steam. He stated it WASN'T beta, but the game will constantly evolve.
Lol
Clearly Santa decided to deliver a gift to the MMORPG boards a bit early!
Yay Santa!
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Game that are sold in a beta state are clearly stated to be in beta, games on a kickstarter page are clearly told are "Projects" or being only on al alpha state, if even there, for that part games on a kickstarter page sometime are just clearly presented as "ideas".
When the interviewer tried to ask about that, he had pratcally pry from the developer that the game was "developing"
Sorry but as i said, they tried to sell features that were not in teh game, i am sorry your job is in danger now, or you risk to face charges but do not change the facts.
Sure we can say that about anything, my car was developing from the moment they mined the raw materials to the moment they assembled it .
Of course when i bought my car i didnt' receive a pile of raw iron from the car seller telling me the car was "In constant development"
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5120/7210363296_8357bee9de.jpg
If that's really what you think (about D3 and War Z), then you have a serious case of "selective comprehension".
People bought into D3 because they were psyched and excited to play it. It had a highly successful heritage. They believed Blizzard would deliver a worthy successor to Diablo 2. Only they didn't and, after the initial excitement wore off, people saw that D3 wasn't all that great at all. Many just went back to Diablo 2.
People bought into War Z because they were excited about what it promised. It was described as a game they could enjoy playing. Then they buy the game and find that so much of what excited them was either not in the game at all, or was delivered in an extremely incomplete state. The game they were paying for was not even close to the game they received.
It has nothing to do with "the buzz dying down". It has everything to do with a developer over-hyping and over-marketing their own product, to a degree that they were/are incapable of delivering on... and then turning around and insulting the customers by dismissing their valid complaints as "misreading the advertising".
You're doing an awful lot of work trying to spin this to make the War Z guys come out smelling like roses. Unfortunately, the reality is out there for all to see. The game is a mess, and the developers' response to it is a mess. All the spin-doctoring in the world is not going to change that.
Wouldn't like you as a Dev?
We don't care for you NOW.
you missed my point entirely. nothing new, i regularly screw up communicating my thoughts.
i was actually giving you a backhanded compliment. in other words you know more languages than i do. i am envious of that. its a sign of intelligence in my book. something which i lack.
however, that does not mean that one cannot observe certain patterns of speech and writing and note that they come from very similar sources. and that was all i meant. the posts supporting you all sound similar.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
Seven pages of more entertainment than what the subject game can offer, awesome.
And on the matter of The War Z losing it's title. . . Honestly I don't think it matters (But still, HAH!) at this point, they took what money they can and moved on to make more crap.
Also, I noticed a trend: War Inc. then War Z. Wonder what's next? War Duty?
You know what's fun about chaos? I do, but I won't tell.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5120/7210363296_8357bee9de.jpg
Isn't this one War Duty?
I'm Sorry, Doodie.
Pretty sure Valve owns Steam. Least I know they created it. Anyways, no one said Steam had to do anything. The point is they are so one would think considering the bad pr from this and any monetary losses they incur they may want to make the people behind Warz pay for in the long run. I would imagine there is a contract between any company and Steam when they put their game up for sale on the site to cover both parties.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Lol good sir.
You know what's fun about chaos? I do, but I won't tell.
Maybe you should read again my post, i am starting to think you suffer of "Selective comprehension disorder"
But i will spell it for you again.
When you buy a car, you go to a car seller, of any branch it may be, and you see a finished product, you buy it, and you receive it.
The product include usually a functional moving veichle , it might have accessories or not, but is a finished roduct, the product might be somehow damaged, if so, you ask for a replecement.
Applying this to WarZ, and i'll type it slowly so you might get it...
Is like i go to a car seller, i point a car, then when it got delivered i got only the body, no engine, no lights, no wheels.
This is WarZ
They promised a car, clearly promised a car, without any doubt promised me a car, and i got only a part of it, not really functional even.
Nowhere on the page, on steam or anywhere else it states the game is in beta.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5120/7210363296_8357bee9de.jpg
Seems War-z devs made it to these forums.
Remove that game from this site before any more victims fall for that baddie game.
wow. i take it back. you are a dumbass. this is not what the poster meant at all. they were not attacking Steam (which is owned by Valve). instead they were complimenting them on their refunds and stating that Steam should pursue legal action against WarZ's owners.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
yes. please.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
+1
also i think it should have been the other way round, i think war Z is in work for some more years than the movie which isn't even out yet afaik.
guess paramount obviously had more money the "scammed" out of trolls (surely no one is earning money for work those days, must be all scammmmmmmmmm).
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
Yes
In no way was I saying Steam is responsible or liable for this themselves. Glad someone understood me XD
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
embarrassing does not quite cover your arguments.
^this.
and oh yes. as a previous poster mentioned: Thank you Santa for an early xmas present >.<
(9pages and growing)
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
It seems so. I don't see who else will defend this debacle.